Jurassic Park IV

[Punisher Rising]

I'd love to see those scenes, someday. No excuse if they're not included on the eventual Blu-ray release as special features.

that scene in the river shows up in JP3. both that river scene and the Pteredactyl scene in the aviary were both in the first book.

I know they were ultimately reused in JP3. Still, the river raft chase/attack in the first book is quite different from JP3's loose adaptation of it,

Spoiler

The T-Rex not only swims after Grant, Tim and Lex in the water, the raft eventually reaches a waterfall where they fall down and the T-Rex tries to get to the three through it, much like the Mother Rex in TLW movie did, and he even used his tongue to lick one of them (I think it was Lex? Been a long time since I read the book), much like Mama Rex in TLW movie.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I love the Roland sequence. Pete kicked ass...


But those aren't even the extent of it - I'm sure originally TLW was around 3 hours long. Check out this other awesome stuff they cut, some of which I didn't even know existed till a year ago.''http://www.jplegacy.org/index2.php?load=jurassicpark2/tlwc.shtml

These deleted scenes all seem so good. Especially when he falls on the baby t-rex. I'd like to hear that dialogue.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I'd love to see those scenes, someday. No excuse if they're not included on the eventual Blu-ray release as special features.

to this!

These deleted scenes all seem so good. Especially when he falls on the baby t-rex. I'd like to hear that dialogue.

I love them all. I really wanna see the alternative endings.

 

[Doctor Jones]

They have to at least be better than the San Diego stuff. Man...

That ****ing idiot for pressing that button.

"Hmmm, what's this? Oh, a dead hand I see holding a controller with a button on it that looks wired. That boat that crashed into the pier earlier... its hatches are shaking violently. I guess whatever caused the crash could be in there... I think I'll press this button to see what it is..."

 

[Punisher Rising]

I used to hate the San Diego sequence in TLW, but lately I find myself really enjoying it. It's a fun action scene with different scenery and beyond that, it actually had a point to it with the Father Rex looking for the baby Rex to save him and trying to protect him.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

They have to at least be better than the San Diego stuff. Man...

That ****ing idiot for pressing that button.

"Hmmm, what's this? Oh, a dead hand I see holding a controller with a button on it that looks wired. That boat that crashed into the pier earlier... its hatches are shaking violently. I guess whatever caused the crash could be in there... I think I'll press this button to see what it is..."

I think the San Diego ending is always there, but from the rex being tranquilized onwards is alternates.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Oh...

Still that stupid, stupid man hitting that button. They couldn't think of another way to have the rex go loose? It might have been Alan Grant drunk.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

meh....its stupid, but...whatever. we all know which one is the best of the series anyways

 

[Webhead2006]

saw the rumors about 4th film the other day. its to bad its not true. i do want to see another film. would be neat to see what they would do. Though if anything was in production we would have heard something.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Oh...

Still that stupid, stupid man hitting that button. They couldn't think of another way to have the rex go loose? It might have been Alan Grant drunk.

The thing that I never understood is how the guy got killed. Did the Rex do it? How did he get at the guy in the control room without damaging the room? So, the Rex got out of the holding pen, ate the crew member inside the control room without damaging the room and then went back to his pen? Or were there other dinos on board? Raptors or other small dinos could have gotten into the room but there was no mention of them being on the boat.

 

[Mastodon123]

I love the Roland sequence. Pete kicked ass...


But those aren't even the extent of it - I'm sure originally TLW was around 3 hours long. Check out this other awesome stuff they cut, some of which I didn't even know existed till a year ago.''http://www.jplegacy.org/index2.php?load=jurassicpark2/tlwc.shtml

I remember going to the theater to see TLW when it first came out, and boardroom, and Roland and Ajay meeting scenes were apart of the film. I wonder why they decided to cut those scenes for the home releases.

 

[Punisher Rising]

The thing that I never understood is how the guy got killed. Did the Rex do it? How did he get at the guy in the control room without damaging the room? So, the Rex got out of the holding pen, ate the crew member inside the control room without damaging the room and then went back to his pen? Or were there other dinos on board? Raptors or other small dinos could have gotten into the room but there was no mention of them being on the boat.

I've seen it theorized on some boards that some Raptors could've snuck onto the ship and killed the crew, and they were either eaten by the T-Rex or jumped into the ocean and died when the ship crashed into the InGen harbor.

 

[Rez]

You guys going over The Lost World book are leaving out a huge chunk of it.. and my favorite aspect of the entire thing- It's a mystery!

Nearly the first half of the book doesn't happen on the island, it has to do with Malcolm and a few other characters not in the films investigating mysterious deaths and dinosaur sightings... on the mainland. In different parts of the world. InGen is a mysterious, shady companion and there are a number of sequences that suggest a great deal more is going on than appears- even in the book itself. It plays kind of like a more serious Resident Evil storyline(yes I know which came first, I'm just using it for reference since a lot more people have played/seen RE than read TLW) with a nefarious company doing illegal experiments without anyone knowing. When they do finally get to the island, dinosaurs exist that shouldn't, buildings have new locks on them and the power and some of the machines are inexplicably still on.. even though it was supposedly abbandoned and defunct years prior.

As great as this is, the movie *does* actually improve on some very basic things. The Hunters are far more compelling characters than the handful of bad guys from the book, and the book kind of builds to a climax that never happens. The entire storyline of the book revolves around getting dinosaurs *off* the island, dinosaurs being off the island in the first place.. and there's no money shot. Things just kind of end, they leave the island and very little is resolved. The T Rex in San Diego sequence is mostly rediculous(though there are a few bright spots), but story wise it is sound. The entire story builds to getting dinosaurs off the island... and dinosaurs wind up off the island.


I used to hate TLW, but after giving it some time and suffering through the pure garbage that was JP3, I rather love it now. A black raptor kicking daughter of a white man is still an infamous low point, but other than that it's pretty great. I find it works a lot better if you view it as an old monster movie. And really, it's like it was designed as pure fan service for JP. Everything in the films lines up, but *BIGGER AND MORE AWESOME!* The Stegos/Brachios. The Rex vs Car, Rexes vs Trailer. Raptor "ending." There's a lot to like in the film, and I really think you've got something close to a perfect movie if you stop the film right when the Rex roars in front of San Diego lit up at night. With the last line of the movie being "Now you're John Hammond.." 5 minutes in a DVD editing program and fade to the credits and you've got one hell of a great cliffhanger ending that still provides plenty of closure to the storyline without the mess that is the last 10 minutes.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Honestly, the Rex terrorizing San Diego was one of the few things that I really enjoyed about TLW. Something about an extinct 7 ton monster walking through the streets, eating everyone and everything in sight is awesome.

 

[Anjow1060]

My source that sent me that pic said they're gonna continue to investigate what's going on. After the "debunk" things went quiet.

But here's the kicker - they were talking to me for WEEKS about a secret project that was being worked on in those lots. It could very well just have been a P.A.'s screw up to write the actual title of the film other than the actual code name they were going under prior. Or, as pointed out - could just be a joke by someone. Either way, I'll know for sure once they get on set and get back to me.

Furthermore: Source let me know that Stage 12 was where the original set for the Vistor's Center on Isla Nublar was originally constructed / filmed.

If not just but a fun fact.



- Jow

 

[chaseter]

Wear this to gain intel without notice:

 

[Webhead2006]

Probably was someone pulling your chain. Or maybe it could have been some special new attraction/show universal is doing for jp.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Wear this to gain intel without notice:

 

[Anjow1060]

Well the source isn't pulling my chain. They're a good friend from college.

If anything - there's someone pulling their chain and telling them here's a dino at the other end of it.

we'll see.

Still kinda cool to have the chance for it to be real.

- Jow

 

[chaseter]

Make them look into one of the lots.

 

[Anjow1060]

um.....

My source that sent me that pic said they're gonna continue to investigate what's going on. After the "debunk" things went quiet.

But here's the kicker - they were talking to me for WEEKS about a secret project that was being worked on in those lots. It could very well just have been a P.A.'s screw up to write the actual title of the film other than the actual code name they were going under prior. Or, as pointed out - could just be a joke by someone. Either way, I'll know for sure once they get on set and get back to me.

Furthermore: Source let me know that Stage 12 was where the original set for the Vistor's Center on Isla Nublar was originally constructed / filmed.

If not just but a fun fact.



- Jow

 

[chaseter]

I meant to say NOW.

 

[Carnotaur3]

I meant to say NOW.

lol.

I agree. NOW! t:

 

[ironwez20]

I bet you 10million they will make a remake.

 

[Doctor Jones]

The thing that I never understood is how the guy got killed. Did the Rex do it? How did he get at the guy in the control room without damaging the room? So, the Rex got out of the holding pen, ate the crew member inside the control room without damaging the room and then went back to his pen? Or were there other dinos on board? Raptors or other small dinos could have gotten into the room but there was no mention of them being on the boat.

You mean the random dead hand just holding that controller?