Just How Important is This Movie?

[Infinity9999x]

The good news is that the new HP won't make more money than usual domestically. It's never made more than 300$ million in that area,as in 400$ million and up,and maybe by chance,it could under-perform if enough people are actually sick of the Harry Potter movies.

I really, really doubt that's going to happen. Harry Potter has a huge fanbase (I love the books myself, grew up with them). The very last movie is going to be an event, releasing Cap the week after it is just foolish. Especially considering that the Cap movie needs to be fairly well received if they want Avengers to do well, given the fact that Cap is the leader of the Avengers.

Seriously, what are they thinking? Didn't Marvel learn their lesson after they released TIH by Indy 4?

 

[Chewy]

IJ didn't really have anything to do with TIH's lukewarm BO take. It had been out for almost a month at that point and wasn't making terribly much by then

 

[Infinity9999x]

IJ didn't really have anything to do with TIH's lukewarm BO take. It had been out for almost a month at that point and wasn't making terribly much by then

Good point. However, I still remember friends who chose to see Indy 4 again over TIH because the last one sucked (in their opinion). And it didn't help that nearly all of them thought it was a sequel.

Still, what is Marvel thinking. DHII is going to own the box office.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

$300M isn't much money?

And this is the finale, I'll eat a baby if it isn't the highest grossing one

Ah hem. I said that it won't make much more money than USUAL. I didn't mean that 300$ million isn't a lot of money. If HP 7 Part 1 wasn't going to be released on a Friday than I think that TFA:CA could kick it's butt in it's weekend debut,the last HP movie had quite a bit of a drop on the second weekend because it was released on a weekday the week before that,on that second weekend it made around $29+ million.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Given the release date, Marvel Banner, hype promotion parade that this movie will have going for it's pretty likely this movie will open up Summer and be the typical 100 + Million opener that comes with the territory.

It's new and different and will attract a dichotomy audience.

Girls who think Hemsworth is dreamy - Check
Fantasy nuts who will see the sets and wonder what this movie is all about
Comic book fan nuts of the Marvel ilk who will see this movie just to set up thier desire to see Captain America 2 months late
General Action movie fans who desire to see the first big movie of the summer.



- Now place on top of that some really fantastic cast member the high proabability that this is going to an epic kind of film and you have the makings of 400 + Million domesitic take. If it lives up to what we all think it's going to be.

...........this thread is for you.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=340473

 

[marcvader]

Still think Cap and Thor will make near 300 mil domestic each and that's good in my book. Cap will have its own following.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

...........this thread is for you.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=340473

Personally, I couldn't care less about the box office numbers. Scott Pilgrim was an amazingly enjoyable two hours for me and I plan to watch it again. Whether it does well or not with others--especially in the case of something like SP, which doesn't really demand or even cater to sequels because it told its source material's whole story in one film--doesn't matter to me.

Same with Thor. All the box office numbers determine is whether sequels and more movies like it will be made, and I as a longtime Thor fan am just content that we're even getting this one. Marvel Studios could fold the day after Thor is released and I would just shrug and think, "Well, at least I got my Thor movie." Obviously, I don't want that to happen, but I can control whether people dig the movie as much as I'm fairly certain I will. All I can do is put my money down and enjoy it for myself, which I fully intend to do.

 

[Chewy]

Still think Cap and Thor will make near 300 mil domestic each and that's good in my book. Cap will have its own following.

That's incredibly unlikely.

 

[marcvader]

You think its incredibly unlikely Cap makes between 250 and 300 dom?

 

[Infinity9999x]

Ah hem. I said that it won't make much more money than USUAL. I didn't mean that 300$ million isn't a lot of money. If HP 7 Part 1 wasn't going to be released on a Friday than I think that TFA:CA could kick it's butt in it's weekend debut,the last HP movie had quite a bit of a drop on the second weekend because it was released on a weekday the week before that,on that second weekend it made around $29+ million.

Comparing the previous HP films to this last one isn't really an accurate marker. We're talking about the finale film of a hugely popular series. It's going to be huge. And even if the Cap film looks amazing and has tons of hype, I wouldn't bet that it would be able to bring down the last film of Harry Potter.

Like I said, Harry Potter is this generations star wars. It's huge. The last film is going to be huge.

Personally, I couldn't care less about the box office numbers. Scott Pilgrim was an amazingly enjoyable two hours for me and I plan to watch it again. Whether it does well or not with others--especially in the case of something like SP, which doesn't really demand or even cater to sequels because it told its source material's whole story in one film--doesn't matter to me.

Same with Thor. All the box office numbers determine is whether sequels and more movies like it will be made, and I as a longtime Thor fan am just content that we're even getting this one. Marvel Studios could fold the day after Thor is released and I would just shrug and think, "Well, at least I got my Thor movie." Obviously, I don't want that to happen, but I can control whether people dig the movie as much as I'm fairly certain I will. All I can do is enjoy it for myself, which I fully intend to do.

I see where you're coming from, and to a point agree, but at the same time, I want these movies to be successful, because I do want other films. Not only that, but I want the filmmakers to keep pushing themselves to make good movies out of this material.

I really hope that Thor and Cap do well at the B.O. so Avengers has a good shot at being a huge hit, because if it does lukewarm, or bombs, we can pretty much say goodbye to the idea of something like this ever happening again. And some may argue about the benefit of creating one big film world similar to the comics as Marvel is attempting to do.

The many references and set ups to other movies that was in Iron Man was one of the main criticisms of it. Though I do think that IM2 wasn't as well received because it was about the same quality as Iron Man, and I think Iron Man was overrated. But I have to admit I probably wouldn't have wanted any references to the Justice League in TDK. So it could go either way.

Still, I really would like to see Avengers do very well, and hopefully see a day where all Marvel's characters are in one big interconnected film universe.

 

[ddddeeee]

You think its incredibly unlikely Cap makes between 250 and 300 dom?

I don't think Thor, GL or Cap will make that much.

 

[Chewy]

You think its incredibly unlikely Cap makes between 250 and 300 dom?

Yes. I'll be shocked if Cap makes more than $200M domestic.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I don't think Thor, GL or Cap will make that much.

Sorry,but you lost me when you said Thor and GL,especially GL!!!!!!!!!

If stupid movies like the Twilight ones can make lots of money,then so can those movies,big fanbase or not imo. GL can definitely pull off Ironman box office numbers at most.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

They can. But will they?

 

[marcvader]

I think that along with the usual suspects going to see these movies your going to get an older demographic contributing to the BO because of the nostalgia factor and in the case of Cap your going to get the flagwaving middle and southern Americans patriots thinking it will cater to them.

 

[ddddeeee]

Sorry,but you lost me when you said Thor and GL,especially GL!!!!!!!!!

If stupid movies like the Twilight ones can make lots of money,then so can those movies,big fanbase or not imo. GL can definitely pull off Ironman box office numbers at most.

If you say so. I think GL will be the biggest of the three definitely, people love Ryan Reynolds for some reason, but not Iron Man/Twlight big.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I genuinely hope Thor does better than GL, if only because I can't stand Hal Jordan and Thor is my favorite character. That would be like a second Christmas for me. But realistically it probably won't.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I genuinely hope Thor does better than GL, if only because I can't stand Hal Jordan and Thor is my favorite character. That would be like a second Christmas for me. But realistically it probably won't.

You sound like a ....you know.

I won't say it cause you are a mod.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I genuinely hope Thor does better than GL, if only because I can't stand Hal Jordan and Thor is my favorite character. That would be like a second Christmas for me. But realistically it probably won't.

Not even if GL is good despite you not liking Hal Jordan?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You sound like a ....you know.

I won't say it cause you are a mod.

A person with different tastes from yours? Yeah, I imagine I am.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I genuinely hope Thor does better than GL, if only because I can't stand Hal Jordan and Thor is my favorite character. That would be like a second Christmas for me. But realistically it probably won't.

I'm expecting Thor to do better than GL.

It has the May opening, it has a great cast & the hype is already building up thanks the "leaked" trailer. Things are shaping up nicely for the God of Thunder!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

GL has a lot more recognition, though. Even if a lot of people are familiar with John Stewart and are wondering why the main character of the movie is a white dude, they know the name "Green Lantern" a lot better than they do "Thor." At the end of the day, movie audiences tend to play it safe and go with things they immediately recognize.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Comparing the previous HP films to this last one isn't really an accurate marker. We're talking about the finale film of a hugely popular series. It's going to be huge. And even if the Cap film looks amazing and has tons of hype, I wouldn't bet that it would be able to bring down the last film of Harry Potter.

Like I said, Harry Potter is this generations star wars. It's huge. The last film is going to be huge.

If Harry Potter is the new Star Wars then the last one isn't going to be the highest grosser. Neither of the two SW finals were.

 

[Infinity9999x]

If Harry Potter is the new Star Wars then the last one isn't going to be the highest grosser. Neither of the two SW finals were.

I meant in terms of cultural impact, not exactly. HP is a different kind of beast then Star Wars. (and I was comparing HP to the original trilogy only, since that was what had the biggest impact on a generation).

Harry Potter is a series that has been building over six films, and they have a huge following in book readers as well. The anticipation for the finale will be huge. To think that it won't outgross any of the previous entries I find hard to believe. Especially since the films are looking pretty darn good from the trailers and footage we've seen.

 

[jmc]

Wait, Cap is out the week after DH2? To paraphrase Batman "Are they dense? Are they ******ed?"

That movies is going to be huge. HUGE. Why in the HELL would you even think of releasing a movie anywhere near that monster? Harry Potter is this generations Star Wars, and the last film of that series is going to be ridiculous. I'm honestly extremely pissed at Marvel right now.

That movie was gonna struggle enough overseas, it's got no hope against Potter, that film will be massive for weeks, who ever the moron at Marvel was who made that cock up needs his arse sacked. I don't know what was wrong with the original 2012 date, hitting theatres the week after what will be the biggest film of next year is suicide. Boneheaded decision.