Justice League Justice League Box Office Prediction - Part 7

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Slight problem when the mega team up movie of all the best characters makes only $136m more worldwide than the lame identity character solo film.

I don't think the justice league movie had the best characters by the way.
From my point of view there are other more interesting and better superheroes in comics,shows,cartoons,games and in movies etc.. then the ones shown in the justice league movie.
 
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I don't think the justice league movie had the best characters by the way.
From my point of view there are other more interesting and better superheroes in comics,shows,cartoons,games and in movies etc.. then the ones shown in the justice league movie.
It was supposed to be the best of DC’s characters coming together as a team. Should have been a huge event rather than not a whole lot bigger than Ant Man.
 
It was supposed to be the best of DC’s characters coming together as a team. Should have been a huge event rather than not a whole lot bigger than Ant Man.

A Film Event is what it should have been. Queues round the block type event. :csad:
 
No, you're missing the point. "Enjoyable at a minimum" is exactly what you keep asking for, so have your utensils and bib at the ready in order to be force-fed the same damn thing over and over. Look at the Ant-Man & The Wasp trailer and tell me I'm wrong.

*Looks at the Ant-man & The Wasp trailer*

Yeah.... that doesn't really feel like the Infinity War trailer, which doesn't feel like the Black Panther trailers, which also don't feel like the Ragnorak trailers....

You're wrong. If you think that the Marvel movies, particularly as of late, are all just the same thing over and over.... you're literally just boiling it down to "this movie has jokes". That's about as reductive as it gets.

But to the greater point: I do appreciate that Snyder and WB have continually looked to provide a counterbalance to the MCU and I do think that there needs to be more variety, but if you aren't going to join them.... beat them. Make better movies. Fox has done a great job of it in recent years, and hopefully WB will get it together.
 
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*Looks at the Ant-man & The Wasp trailer*

Yeah.... that doesn't really feel like the Infinity War trailer, which doesn't feel like the Black Panther trailers, which also don't feel like the Ragnorak trailers....

You're wrong. If you think that the Marvel movies, particularly as of late, are all just the same thing over and over.... you're literally just boiling it down to "this movie has jokes". That's about as reductive as it gets.

I think Civil War changed that notion of thinking to a certain degree. Certainly to it's credit, BP absolutely looks to be, at least, diverting strongly from that vein.
 
A Film Event is what it should have been. Queues round the block type event. :csad:

Imagine where we'd be now if both BvS and JL had delivered on all their promise and JL2 was round the corner. :csad:

Predictions would be huge.
 
No, you're missing the point. "Enjoyable at a minimum" is exactly what you keep asking for, so have your utensils and bib at the ready in order to be force-fed the same damn thing over and over. Look at the Ant-Man & The Wasp trailer and tell me I'm wrong.

This isn't what force-fed means.
 
Imagine where we'd be now if both BvS and JL had delivered on all their promise and JL2 was round the corner. :csad:

Predictions would be huge.
As the days inch closer towards Infinity War, an event 10 years in the making and will undoubtedly be a huge hit for the masses and Marvel fanboys...it gets harder and harder to push back the tears. :o
 
As the days inch closer towards Infinity War, an event 10 years in the making and will undoubtedly be a huge hit for the masses and Marvel fanboys...it gets harder and harder to push back the tears. :o

And it's not even the climax, Avengers 4 round the corner. What's that gonna do if IW really gives everyone what they want?!

And there's no reason JL sequels couldn't have achieved what the first Avengers achieved at least.
 
https://screenrant.com/warner-bros-justice-league-fail/

A new report suggests that Warner Bros. knew Justice League was a dud long before it hit theaters, and they released it anyway. The studio officially launched their DC Comics-based universe with Zack Snyder’s Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice in 2016. And although they’ve expanded the shared universe with David Ayer’s Suicide Squad and Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman, the goal was always getting the world’s finest heroes on the big screen, together.

Justice League – which starred Ben Affleck (Batman), Henry Cavill (Superman), Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman), Ezra Miller (The Flash), Jason Momoa (Aquaman), and Ray Fisher (Cyborg) as the titular heroes – was a critical failure and a commercial disappointment. Warner Bros. made multiple attempts to adapt the DC superhero team into live-action, and they failed virtually every time. The one time they succeeded in bringing the Justice League onto the silver screen resulted in an unmitigated disaster. At the moment, Justice League is the lowest-grossing DCEU film at the worldwide box office. That’s something that fans feared would result in the studio canceling the DCEU, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. They are still pushing full-steam ahead… because they already knew Justice League would fail.

According to a new report from Revenge of the Fans, Warner Bros. top brass knew Justice League – in whichever condition it came packaged in; Snyder Cut, Whedon Cut, etc. – would ultimately fail, and they released it anyway so they could move onto their next project (hence half-baked CGI, a 2-hour theatrical cut, etc.). What’s interesting is that they didn’t know it would tank as bad as it did. That’s partly because the movie wasn’t what people expected (or wanted), and partly because it was a sequel to BvS – a controversial film that left a bad taste in moviegoers’ mouths.

Since the studio knew what they had on their hands, they already got the ball rolling on behind-the-scenes changes, such as how DC Films operates under Warner Bros. Pictures, prior to Justice Leauge hitting screens in November. (Remember, DC Films co-chief Geoff Johns and DC Entertainment president Diane Nelson said as much in September). And that’s precisely why DC Films’ official slate hasn’t changed since its announcement at SDCC last summer. They knew where they wanted to go post-Justice League, and they’re sticking with that schedule – one that involves less interconnected films.

Aquaman, Shazam!, and Wonder Woman 2 are currently the only DC movies with confirmed release dates, though the studio has plenty more DC films in active development. While each movie will exist within the DCEU, Warners won’t prioritize interconnectivity anymore. Each film will be allowed to exist independently (as Wonder Woman did) and will be at the charge of their respective creative teams (i.e. filmmaker-driven); quality above all. We’ll just have to wait and see how it all plays out from here, but at least they have a gameplan.
 

Okay, I’m going to go on a little rant here. As a DC fan, I am outraged by the treatment the fans have gotten from WB. Not sure how anyone wouldn’t be. Does WB think I am some sort of lemming that will just devour whatever scraps they feed me? First we get MOS which the reception was let’s say mixed. That is fine but then they double down on BVS and let Snyder run free. They let him film an R rated Batman film. A crappy one at that. Then they tell us they have learned from the experience and then they Let Snyder do JL. And we get the above! Sorry WB, I am not some blind fan that will accept your crap. They have a lot of work to do to earn back my goodwill.
 
Not at all surprised if that's true. It's as I expected, they think folks will just show up because batman, superman, ww, etc are in it.

If they don't stop interfering, it will be just more of the same.
 
If that's true, it makes sense. For nearly a year people were pointing out that movies with poor reception usually see a huge drop-off for the sequels (with a few exceptions like the Transformers movies, and even then this eventually caught up with them in The Last Knight). Justice League was never gonna be a billion dollar film, but I don't think anyone thought it'd do quite that badly.
 
Not at all surprised if that's true. It's as I expected, they think folks will just show up because batman, superman, ww, etc are in it.

If they don't stop interfering, it will be just more of the same.

What do you mean interfering?

It was WB's narrative that "everything was fine" in the DCEU and some fans swallowed--hook, line and sinker.

All WB ended up doing was literally polishing turds (excluding WW), and in turn, made an ass off of certain fans.

If true, this is certainly surprising--you would think executives valued profit, on their investment, over saving face in the eyes of the public.
 
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I wasn't a big fan of Ant Man and as I just finished watching the trailer to Ant Man & the Wasp I'm dumbfounded by the fact that this movie is going to make way more BO $$$ than Justice League. Who would have ever thought that 2-3 yrs ago.
It’s because it looks super fan and something a non-comic book fan can enjoy.
 
Add TDK if you like, but the point remains. They're going to file off all the edges and what remains will be smooth and harmless. Ask for vanilla, get vanilla.

You won't see a movie like Logan out of Disney. You're going to get a Wolverine who ends every sentence with "Sure, bub!" and puffs cigars while slashing down bipedal lizards. On the upside, you'll get to see the suits.
I hope so. If I want to see a spaghetti western there are tons that are great and much better than what Logan attempted . I’d rather have a true wolverine film and some real x-men movies while we’re at it .

That was marvel’s biggest success, they dared to bring comic books to life (or to the big screen) unapologetically without trying to make them more “mature”, without trying to insert some director’s grand egos and visions in them, without trying to hide the fact that these are freakin comic books not meant to fit in the real world and be as gloomy and as “close to real life” as something like nolan’s Batman films.

The more succesfull they were, the more comic book they became thus we are getting ready to enjoy infinity war movies. I still remember when people were certain how things like Thor or captain America would be laughable on the big screen and let’s not even get started on the cosmic marvel stuff.

Marvel, unlike dc, pulled it off and hopefully we will get x-men , ff4 , Wolverine e.t.c movies from marvel and you can keep your so called pretentious “masterpieces” .
 
I said it long ago about JL that I feel that WB and Whedon pulled off the salvage to an extent that they maybe ok with. And that is exactly what has happened. Can you imagine a $90 M opening with BvS legs? THAT would have been totally awful. At least it is now in the flop category than a complete disaster.
 
I said it long ago about JL that I feel that WB and Whedon pulled off the salvage to an extent that they maybe ok with. And that is exactly what has happened. Can you imagine a $90 M opening with BvS legs? THAT would have been totally awful. At least it is now in the flop category than a complete disaster.

I know you liked it honestbharani but I wish it would have been a complete disaster. It came off as so try hard that it is complete cheese and now we have to suffer through more films in this universe when I would prefer a complete course correcting reboot.
 
What do you mean interfering?

It was WB's narrative that "everything was fine" in the DCEU and some fans swallowed--hook, line and sinker.

All WB ended up doing was literally polishing turds (excluding WW), and in turn, made an ass off of certain fans.

If true, this is certainly surprising--you would think executives valued profit, on their investment, over saving face in the eyes of the public.

WB never said "everything is fine". The creators involved in the projects, at least, and many of the higher ups, were very open about the fact that there needed to be a fairly sizeable course correction after BVS.

What do you think they were saying "Hope and optimism" so much for? They knew BVS was not well received and that the franchise needed improvement.
 
I know you liked it honestbharani but I wish it would have been a complete disaster. It came off as so try hard that it is complete cheese and now we have to suffer through more films in this universe when I would prefer a complete course correcting reboot.

Well, I feel the course correction is still happening but without a full reboot, as it were. And honestly, given the talent involved, I am kinda happy that most of the cast will still be around but in better creative hands.
 
No, you're missing the point. "Enjoyable at a minimum" is exactly what you keep asking for, so have your utensils and bib at the ready in order to be force-fed the same damn thing over and over. Look at the Ant-Man & The Wasp trailer and tell me I'm wrong.

Black Panther coming out in literally a week and you come with this take LOOOOL
 
WB has put themselves in a tight spot. What to do, what to do.
Flashpoint it? Or...
Reboot the whole thing or
Years and years of waiting before they ever try again.

Things can change on a dime, and I rule nothing in or out.
 
WB has put themselves in a tight spot. What to do, what to do.
Flashpoint it? Or...
Reboot the whole thing or
Years and years of waiting before they ever try again.

Things can change on a dime, and I rule nothing in or out.

You mean Justice League? I think the worst they're going to do is just retcons things and move on to focus on individual franchise's. Getting character drivin visions is what WB needs to hone in on. Once they do that, maybe that will lead to another JL down the road. That's not the priority anymore. Pump out well thought out films, get the audience to invest again, don't turn into cardboard Marvel 2.0 and find your niche. They aren't rebooting. Major retcons though I assume.
 
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