MarvelKnight
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Ha they would put JL up against TA2
They have to. If you're the new franchise on the block, you cannot come out second. There's a reason Avengers came out before DKR. They know that people who are eager for DKR will go see Avengers in the meantime, but not vice versa. This is really not a debatable point.
They come for Batman and Superman. You hook them on Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern during Justice League.
I'd love Ryan Reynolds to Coe back but tbh I think they might go with another GL.
Robin- i agree with what youre saying except for Ryan Reynolds...That movie should have no connection to JL
The only thing I want more than Reynolds to return is for them to not use John Stewart if he doesn't.
This is a great idea, except no to Simon..... whatchu thinkin dude? Simon is lame. Id rather have that little bald GL from Batman Beyond than himI'd rather the Green Lantern film not be in continuity. Like even a little bit. Preferably a recast just to distance themselves from it. Or they can really push it out and use either Kyle or Simon as a new GL completely.
Buddy. I think youre forgetting something Hulk was recast. just like Reynolds should be.The Incredible Hulk underperformed as well. Excluding budget, they took in about the same amount at the domestic box office (130/116). Which means that they received about the same amount of attention from viewers... Green Lantern was just a failure because it cost more to make...but it still about as many asses into the seats as Hulk's flick did.
Neither got sequels.
People thought that there was a fundemental problem with the character or that the public just didn't like them...
Then The Avengers happened. We got Hulk in small doses, and done by a director who understood what made that character fun and successful and it worked.
Reynolds wasn't the reason the first film failed -- he delivered a great rendition of Hal Jordan. A Hal Jordan that I think would be a great foil for a veteran Batman or a serious Superman. A Hal Jordan straight from the New 52.
If a director who is worth his salt and understands Green Lantern comes onto this project, he can deliver us everything Martin Cambell didn't or couldn't. And I will take that bet and bet on Reynolds' Hal Jordan.
-R
Buddy. I think youre forgetting something Hulk was recast. just like Reynolds should be.
You set yourself up for that one.
TIH may have underperformed, but it didnt suck, unlike Green Lantern, which sucked...hard. There is no point to reusing Reynolds. No one cared for HIM or the movie. It doesnt do any good for the JL movie. And clearly (based on your point) audiences dont care about recasts. In fact, Hulk has been played by 3 different actors. Soooo yeah..... the Hulk example doesnt really prove your point.. at all
Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor were more than just introducing people to the heroes, it made people care about the characters to even come back to watch The Avengers.
Wonder Woman and The Flash may be well known, but people aren't necessarily going to come see the movie if you haven't given them a chance or a reason to care about the characters to begin with, no?
The only way that this new plan of releasing Justice League in 2015 will ever work is:
- Henry Cavill plays Superman.
- Ryan Reynolds returns as Green Lantern.
- Justice League is in the same universe as Man of Steel and Green Lantern.
If anything, treat Green Lantern like The Incredible Hulk in this new DC Cinematic Universe and only give it a passing mention in the team up.
With you on that I'd rather see Guy Gardner than John Stewart. Personally tho f no Hal I'd rather they went with Kyle Rayner.
Buddy. I think youre forgetting something Hulk was recast. just like Reynolds should be.
Fan didn't hate Reynolds' Hal Jordan. Actually, a large portion of them LIKED his portrayal, and felt that he deserved a better script. GIVE HIM THE BETTER SCRIPT.
-R
Yes we did.
I'll never understand this line of thinking. Did anyone know who Han Solo was before they saw Star Wars? Did you know anything about the characters in Inception or Avatar? Why is it assumed that people must have a "background" on the character before they'll be willing to buy a ticket? We don't apply that standard to any other genre besides superhero movies.
Even if they all have solo movies beforehand, they'll still have to make some reference to their backgrounds in JL, since a significant portion of the audience won't have seen the solo films. So what work is really being done by "establishing" these characters in solo films? As comics fans, of course it would make for a richer experience, but we are a very small minority of the audience.
Plus, Batman and Superman are like, the two most iconic superheroes ever. And the GA is plenty familiar with them. They put butts in the seats; the rest of the characters will be what (hopefully) fuels word of mouth.
Agree on Cavill 100%. I pretty much agree on Reynolds, and I really like the TIH comparison. The decision to recast Banner, IIRC, was about Norton wanting money and/or creative control, not trying to distance themselves from TIH.
I think Reynolds did the best he could with a bad script and director. He would bring star power and the all-important "girl-friend-who-goes-along-just-because-there's-a-pretty-guy" demographic.
This is honestly not sarcasm, but what am I missing about Kyle Rayner? I was recently reading some of Morrison's JL run and he was just awful. He was like an over-caffeinated 10 year old. I know it was the 90's and he's supposed to be the star-struck kid, but seriously, everything out of his mouth was like nails on a chalkboard.
Could you recommend some good Rayner books to change my mind?
I'll never understand this line of thinking. Did anyone know who Han Solo was before they saw Star Wars? Did you know anything about the characters in Inception or Avatar? Why is it assumed that people must have a "background" on the character before they'll be willing to buy a ticket? We don't apply that standard to any other genre besides superhero movies.
I think people are brainwashed into thinking the way Marvel did things is the only way to do things...and thats not true. No one really knew much about Hawkeye and Black Widow but that didnt hinder people from enjoying Avengers.
The best way for WB to do this is:
Justice League....if the movie is good it will cause buzz around the characters like there was buzz around the Hulk after Avengers came out. The build on the buzz. Do the solo movies then.