Karate Kid (Remake)

[KenK]

Anyone notice "You're The Best Around" playing on the radio at the end of the trailer!

 

[Octoberist]

Wow, nothing but a bunch of whiney girls entering this thread. Awww boo hoo it's not Ralph maccio & pat Morita, aww boo hoo, he's teaching him with his jacket instead of washing his car. What's honestly wrong with you people?. Seriously it's so old. This movie is doing it's own thing, either enjoy it for what it is trying to do or don't but don't give it **** because it's doing some thing's different co's if they did thing's the same you'd have a cry about that to.




Steve

I think it's not so much that but I'm more bothered about the 'karate' part.

Granted, it's not as bad as '21' when the real MIT kids were all Asian but it's this weird thread in Hollywood really misrepresenting Asians and freakin' Asians don't do a damn thing about it. it's just telling, as if it's okay when it's not because it's 2010, not the 50s.

 

[jacobed]

The whole title thing is a little wierd, but I gotta admit I'm looking forward to this movie for one reason and that is Jackie Chan. He has been in so many stupid stupid stupid kiddy movies as of late or Rush Hour 3 which is worse. He looks like he'll be playing a more serious role in this movie and I am looking forward to it. The ending to the trailer is absolutely hilarious.

 

[Crook]

I'm pleasantly surprised. I hated this concept of a remake, but after seeing the trailer it's turned out remarkably well. Production values are solid, cast looks good, and it seems to treat the material with some dignity.

For something that could have easily turned into a disaster, the final product is turning out really well!

 

[X Knight]

The actual content of the film I couldn't really care less.......as I'll prob never see the film, even though I do like Jackie Chan. It could very well turn out to be a fun and enjoyable movie.

It's just the name part. Why call it KARATE Kid if you set it in CHINA and have Jackie Chan ( who does KUNG FU ) be the master who teaches his student what looks like KUNG FU moves??!!

And, from what I'm reading here, they even mention KUNG FU several times in the trailer!! But they still call it KARATE Kid!! WTF???!!!

Maybe it's because I'm half-Chinese myself. But, that's just blatantly ignorant. And bordering on being culturally offensive.

It's almost like they're saying....."All those asian martial arts look the same.....so it doesn't matter what we call it."

I mean......I've watched alot of Jackie Chan movies....and in all his movies he does.......KUNG FU!! Same with Jet Li. And Tony Jaa does Muay Thai.

If you are going to call it KARATE Kid....set it in Japan.....have the kid learn KARATE moves from a KARATE master........

Otherwise, call it KUNG FU Kid....or give it some other non-martial art specific name.

 

[rashad]

Riley Freeman?!!!

Seriously though, I'm actually a bit more impressed with this film after the latest trailer. The cinematography looks amazing. Although the title is still ridiculous.

 

[Octoberist]

i think the whole 'karate' thing will be big by the time of the movie's release. Or at least, it'll be addressed in reviews and interviews.

Yes, karate originated from China, as in most friggin' Asian 1000 years ago. It's like calling a movie about Mexico, "Cuba".

"Well they are all hispanic", says a studio exec.

 

[ferret]

ok you guys need to calm down about the title

12-year-old Dre Parker could've been the most popular kid in Detroit, but his mother's latest career move has landed him in China. Dre immediately falls for his classmate Mei Ying - and the feeling is mutual - but cultural differences make such a friendship impossible. Even worse, Dre's feelings make an enemy of the class bully, Cheng. In the land of kung fu, Dre knows only a little karate, and Cheng puts "the karate kid" on the floor with ease. With no friends in a strange land, Dre has nowhere to turn but maintenance man Mr. Han, who is secretly a master of kung fu. As Han teaches Dre that kung fu is not about punches and parries, but maturity and calm, Dre realizes that facing down the bullies will be the fight of his life

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1155076/plotsummary
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thekaratekid/site/

It's just the nickname the kid gets from the bullies.

 

[LostSon88]

Why is it called "Karate Kid"?

Here's why:

Let's move on...

 

[Dave McFly]

Anyone notice "You're The Best Around" playing on the radio at the end of the trailer!

YES, I had to back it up to make sure I was no hearing things . As for the movie, it looks good and I will be seeing it in the theater in the summer.

 

[8wid]

I unfortunately think that this movie will only be different with the setting. Read the dialogue in the script, I bet its close to word for word, the same.

I sense an adaption as bad as the Hannah Montana movie coming. Who wants to see the EXACT same thing happen AGAIN?

 

[GL1]

The actual content of the film I couldn't really care less.......as I'll prob never see the film, even though I do like Jackie Chan. It could very well turn out to be a fun and enjoyable movie.

It's just the name part. Why call it KARATE Kid if you set it in CHINA and have Jackie Chan ( who does KUNG FU ) be the master who teaches his student what looks like KUNG FU moves??!!

And, from what I'm reading here, they even mention KUNG FU several times in the trailer!! But they still call it KARATE Kid!! WTF???!!!

Maybe it's because I'm half-Chinese myself. But, that's just blatantly ignorant. And bordering on being culturally offensive.

It's almost like they're saying....."All those asian martial arts look the same.....so it doesn't matter what we call it."

I mean......I've watched alot of Jackie Chan movies....and in all his movies he does.......KUNG FU!! Same with Jet Li. And Tony Jaa does Muay Thai.

If you are going to call it KARATE Kid....set it in Japan.....have the kid learn KARATE moves from a KARATE master........

Otherwise, call it KUNG FU Kid....or give it some other non-martial art specific name.

Or... have an in-movie reason to call the Kid "The Karate Kid"

There's nothing that says the title has to be synonymous with the plot. I remember looking for metal flowers in "Steel Magnolias" and I didn't find any. Does that mean that I should be offended? Likewise, a movie called "Karate Kid" doesn't have to be about a kid learning Karate, even if the first movie called "Karate Kid" was. Perhaps you are more familiar with movies like "Batman Begins" and "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" where the title refers to the plot as opposed to things like "Edge of Darkness" and "Crazy Heart" which are referenced in the movie, or serve as a thematic indicator, rather than a description of what the movie is about.

The movie is not titled literally, and it is titled to cash in on the franchise. It's that simple. There's nothing non-nonsensical, offensive or unexpected to see here.

 

[Nivek]

I feel this is beneath Jackie Chan.

Rush Hour 1, 2, 3,...

Spy Next Door...

Jackie has been rolling on the ground for years. He wants that American Cinema Money...

 

[GL1]

Why is it called "Karate Kid"?

Here's why:

Let's move on...

We can't move on, because we are obliged to hate this movie, for reasons we dare not explore, and so we have to stick with the one thing we can find that is objectively wrong with it, even if it is addressed repeatedly and thoroughly. We must ignore facts and go with our original judgment.

Only we know that the Karate Kid is about a child learning Kung Fu. If only someone involved in this film were as smart as we are.

 

[DorkyFresh]

ok you guys need to calm down about the title

It's just the nickname the kid gets from the bullies.

that's such a stupid reason to call it 'the Karate Kid'. it's very obvious they wrote that in the script for the sole purpose of being able to call it 'the Karate Kid'.

i don't care why they're calling it 'the Karate Kid' even though i already know why (money)....it's still an inappropriate name given the setting and discipline that the kid will be practicing. i've been practicing Kung Fu for a little over a year now and i find the title very disturbing as it obviously shows where Hollywood's priorities are. it certainly isn't in portraying martial arts accurately, it's in raking in the most money possible...and while that's just part of the game, it's a slimey move imo.

it also disturbs me how many parents and young kids will be wanting to attend KARATE schools hoping to learn Kung Fu techniques simply because it's titled the KARATE Kid. it doesn't matter how many times they say 'Kung Fu' in the film, there are a lot of naive parents and kids that might want to take 'Kung Fu' but will end up taking Karate just because of the film's title.

 

[Octoberist]

ok you guys need to calm down about the title

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1155076/plotsummary
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thekaratekid/site/

It's just the nickname the kid gets from the bullies.

to be honest, and i'm fairly reasonable, that's just a copout explanation.

 

[ferret]

it also disturbs me how many parents and young kids will be wanting to attend KARATE schools hoping to learn Kung Fu techniques simply because it's titled the KARATE Kid. it doesn't matter how many times they say 'Kung Fu' in the film, there are a lot of naive parents and kids that might want to take 'Kung Fu' but will end up taking Karate just because of the film's title.

So? It's their own fault then. It's not too much to ask from an audience to think and put things into context, I'm sure the difference between karate and kung fu will be mentioned more than once in the movie.

And by that logic the original Karate Kid should've been called the Mixed Matial Arts Kid, because kids would have been disappointed not to be able to learn the "crane kick" that the movie tried to sell as karate.

I'm not even denying that they obviously chose the title to get more money that way, no doubt, but the movie seems to be pretty self aware (hence the title and "You're The Best" playing int the background) and I'll take this explanation over "they don't know the difference between karate and kung fu" any day.

 

[DorkyFresh]

So? It's their own fault then. It's not too much to ask from an audience to think and put things into context, I'm sure the difference between karate and kung fu will be mentioned more than once in the movie.

true...they should know better if they pay attention, but it doesn't help that they're taking what is essentially a KUNG FU film and putting the word KARATE in the title. it only creates confusion.

And by that logic the original Karate Kid should've been called the Mixed Matial Arts Kid, because kids would have been disappointed not to be able to learn the "crane kick" that the movie tried to sell as karate.

the crane kick is ONE MOVE out of MANY that Miyagi taught Daniel. the majority of moves that Daniel learned from Miyagi were Karate techniques. also, martial arts back in the 80's weren't as well known as they are today, which is why they could get away with 1 Kung Fu move and calling it Karate. unfortunately, even today, people who don't know any better still think the crane kick is a Karate move...which also lends more credibility to my worry that many people who watch this people could end up signing up for Karate instead of Kung Fu. they might want to learn the techniques in the film but unless they're specifically listening for the name of the discipline while watching the film then they're just gonna reference the title...KARATE Kid. regardless, there is simply no logical reason to call a movie that primarily utilizes Kung Fu "the Karate Kid". imagine if instead of "Kung Fu" the tv show, it were named "Kwon Do".

I'm not even denying that they obviously chose the title to get more money that way, no doubt, but the movie seems to be pretty self aware (hence the title and "You're The Best" playing int the background) and I'll take this explanation over "they don't know the difference between karate and kung fu" any day.

i KNOW they know the difference between the 2 disciplines, but that's what makes it WORSE. everytime one of my co-workers asks me how my "Karate" is coming along i don't mind since they don't know any better.....however, if one of my training buddies told me that i need to work on my "Karate" then i would slap them since they know better. the problem here is that the people in charge KNOW the difference between Kung Fu and Karate but because they're money ****es they're selling out and pissing off most of the martial arts community rather than doing what's noble and just calling it 'the Kung Fu Kid'.

basically...if you're defending the reasoning behind the stupid name, then you're defending corporate greed.

 

[X Knight]

true...they should know better if they pay attention, but it doesn't help that they're taking what is essentially a KUNG FU film and putting the word KARATE in the title. it only creates confusion.


the crane kick is ONE MOVE out of MANY that Miyagi taught Daniel. the majority of moves that Daniel learned from Miyagi were Karate techniques. also, martial arts back in the 80's weren't as well known as they are today, which is why they could get away with 1 Kung Fu move and calling it Karate. unfortunately, even today, people who don't know any better still think the crane kick is a Karate move...which also lends more credibility to my worry that many people who watch this people could end up signing up for Karate instead of Kung Fu. they might want to learn the techniques in the film but unless they're specifically listening for the name of the discipline while watching the film then they're just gonna reference the title...KARATE Kid. regardless, there is simply no logical reason to call a movie that primarily utilizes Kung Fu "the Karate Kid". imagine if instead of "Kung Fu" the tv show, it were named "Kwon Do".


i KNOW they know the difference between the 2 disciplines, but that's what makes it WORSE. everytime one of my co-workers asks me how my "Karate" is coming along i don't mind since they don't know any better.....however, if one of my training buddies told me that i need to work on my "Karate" then i would slap them since they know better. the problem here is that the people in charge KNOW the difference between Kung Fu and Karate but because they're money ****es they're selling out and pissing off most of the martial arts community rather than doing what's noble and just calling it 'the Kung Fu Kid'.

basically...if you're defending the reasoning behind the stupid name, then you're defending corporate greed.

great points.

plus, isn't it kind of insulting to the original Karate Kid movies if, in this movie, the so-called "Karate Kid" gets owned by Kung Fu, and has to learn Kung Fu instead?

I don't mind that the kid's nickname is "karate kid" in the movie at the beginning ( a playful jab at the original ). But, if he learns Kung Fu and excels at it.....wouldn't his new nickname be "kung fu kid?"

It just......doesn't make any sense......except purely to use that name to tie it to the original movies, and thus draw upon sentimental feelings by calling this a "remake."

 

[LostSon88]

basically...if you're defending the reasoning behind the stupid name, then you're defending corporate greed.

I can just say that for myself, I'm defintely not 'defending' the reasoning more-so than I am explaining the reasoning for those who say the studio is being really stupid.

I mean is it wrong? ABSOLUTELY.

But c'mon, this is a major Hollywood studio...what'd you expect? Maybe that's why i'm not taking the title change as hard as everyone else is since well...its pretty much what I expected.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This movie still doesn't look like crap to me.

 

[LostSon88]

The 2nd trailer is changing my opinion...I might just go see it after all.

 

[TEDDY]

Gotta admit: so far the movie looks like it could be good.

I mean, no matter how awesome Jackie Chan is, Pat Morrita will always be Mr. Miyagi to me. But the movie looks cute, the bullies are a lot more intimidating than Cobra-Ki, and Jayden Smith(that is the kid's name right) looks like a kid I can feel a little sympathy for.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Octoberist]

at least Jackie Chan is playing a character named Mr. Han.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Gotta admit: so far the movie looks like it could be good.

I mean, no matter how awesome Jackie Chan is, Pat Morrita will always be Mr. Miyagi to me. But the movie looks cute, the bullies are a lot more intimidating than Cobra-Ki, and Jayden Smith(that is the kid's name right) looks like a kid I can feel a little sympathy for.

Fingers crossed.

I loved Jayden in Happyness and felt that he was the best thing about The Day the Earth Stood Still. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him. I'm not saying that I'm seeing the movie in theaters or anything but these trailers have been pretty damn good and it looks like they are talking the movie as seriously as it should be taken.

Do I still feel that a remake of it is pointless? Yeah but what if it is actually a good remake? Am I going to pretend it's not a good movie just because it's another pointless remake? Ofcourse not and neither should anybody else.

It's also interesting that the movie is testing incredibly well.