Kingsman 3 and spin-offs

[Greens]

Vaughn always slam dunks the visuals. Looks great.

 

[Pennywise]

Teaser poster for the film.

 

[jolldan]

I gotta be honest this intrigues me. Setting this movie as far back as that could work really well with how they set up the tone before hand.

Looking forward to this one and the third once they get round to making it.

 

[Ninjablade]

Oh wow, that trailer was really good. Curious to if the tone of the trailer will reflect the film, but I dig it.

Hope this pans out nicely.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Looks good!

 

[THORin]

Looks pretty good. I love historical fiction, so this is kind of what I've been looking for - it looks really elegant and classy. Seeing Rasputin show up was a bit of a shock, but Rhys Ifans is a great choice for the role: those crazy eyes! And Gemma Arterton as Mata Hari is some really fun casting.

 

[Pennywise]

The King’s Man: Trailer Breakdown With Director Matthew Vaughn

The trailer begins on a shot of a desolate battlefield, slap bang in the middle of World War I. Not the kind of setting you expect for a big-budget action movie, let alone a Kingsman movie. In fact, very little about this trailer feels like it’s from a Kingsman movie at all. It’s a more serious, sombre, grown-up affair. “That was the plan,” says Vaughn. “My nickname for this movie is, ‘The Man Who Would Be Kingsman’. I wanted to do an epic adventure film, and then had this idea about how it could tie into Kingsman, and bang — the whole story came into my head.”

Meet Conrad

Two figures run across this war-torn landscape. Well, one figure is running, whilst carrying the other. “We’re looking at two British soldiers, one of them dressed as a German for some reason,” teases Vaughn. The soldier doing the running, even more impressive when you realise he’s wearing a kilt, is a young man named Conrad, who starts the film fighting for his country in what was then known as The Great War, and who will become central to the film’s story. “Conrad is a cool cat, a character who was born in the wrong time,” says Vaughn. “He would have fitted in very well in the 60s.”

Dickinson, a young English actor perhaps best known so far for Beach Rats, is “the real deal”, according to Vaughn. “It’s funny — Taron is a Welsh boy from RADA, who’s not like Eggsy in real life at all. So I’ve taken a kid who isn’t from the streets and put him on the streets, while Harris is an untrained actor, a lad from East London who’s playing an aristocrat.”

Ignoble and ignobility

Over the initial flurry of images, a voice that is unmistakeably Ralph Fiennes’ talks about how British noblemen “robbed, lied and killed” until they found themselves in positions of power. “But that nobility never came from chivalry.” Fairly bold, and thought-provoking, stuff for a movie that is a prequel to a series of films that have featured Mark Hamill’s head exploding and Elton John high-kicking a goon in the face. “The theme of the first Kingsmanwas, anyone can be a gentleman,” adds Vaughn. “In this film we have gentlemen, but we also have noblemen. And our point is that noblemen aren’t necessarily noble. A gentleman is a code of honour.”

Oxford, not brogue

And now we meet Fiennes’ character, the Duke Of Oxford, a gentleman warrior who will guide Conrad through the murky, murderous waters of international intrigue and espionage. But don’t expect this to be a retread of the Harry Hart-Eggsy dynamic from the modern Kingsman movies. “Conrad is the son of the Duke Of Oxford,” reveals Vaughn. “Oxford is a reactionary, Conrad is a revolutionary. It’s about a father and son relationship where they couldn’t have more opposing views on life, yet love each other dearly.”

Training gear

Here, we see Djimon Hounsou’s Shola put Conrad through his paces in the grounds of a mansion that should look very familiar to fans of the Kingsmanfranchise. “Shola is Oxford’s right-hand man,” says Vaughn. “Wherever Ralph goes, Djimon’s there. If there was a quartermaster in that time, that would be him. And he’s a tough mother****er as well.” Always nice to have a tough mother****er on your side.

Secret passage

In the most Kingsmanny touch yet, Oxford shows Conrad a secret passage. “It’s definitely got moments when we’re in the Kingsman universe,” says Vaughn. “But if you think about what X-Men: First Classwas to X-Men, that’s probably what The King’s Man is to Kingsman: The Secret Service. There are tropes that are similar, but we haven’t got any of the same characters, which gives us more creative freedom.” Which is just one reason why he has set his movie almost a hundred years before the first movie. “If I’d done a prequel about Harry Hart in the Eighties, it would have been cool and stylish, but you know that Harry ain’t in any danger!” So the message is clear: anyone in this movie could find themselves on the end of a bullet, or bayonet, at any time.

Another Fiennes mess

Oxford, presumably a younger vintage due to the slightly floppier hairstyle we can just about see, is blown backwards through a wall. Although Fiennes is a veteran of the Bond and Harry Potter series, it’s still something of a surprise to see him in something so action-packed. “He’s fit as a fart,” laughs Vaughn. “He’s been doing yoga two hours every day for 35 years. There’s one scene, which is a homage to a Jackie Chan moment, where we put a safety harness and a winch on him. After we shot it, the safety guy said, ‘he didn’t even use the winch’. Ralph did it himself.”

Vaughn has been itching to work with Fiennes for years. “He would have made a great Bond 15-20 years ago, which is one of the reasons I cast him,” he adds. “Colin [Firth] would have made a great Bond, too. But Ralph is a brilliant actor. And his secret weapon, and I don’t think enough people appreciate it, is that he’s very ****ing funny. He had no problem going into the murkiness of Kingsman quite happily. He can do it all.”

Take me out

As with X-Men: First Class, Vaughn is weaving his fictional story against a historical backdrop that includes real-life characters and events. Like here, where we see an assassin try to take out Archduke Franz Ferdinand, which was the event that led to the beginning of World War I. “Well, if you know your history, that’s the first attempt,” says Vaughn.

Rah rah Rasputin

Having caught a glimpse of him earlier in the trailer, we now see Rhys Ifans unleash his unique dance-fight moves as Rasputin. Yes, that Rasputin. The mad, almost unkillable monk who was an advisor to the Russian Royal Family. “Rasputin is one of the bad guys,” says Vaughn. “There are three main villains, and he’s one of them. We took all of these mad, historical characters that we knew were villains, and we played them for real in it.” Expect to see the likes of Mata Hari and Erik Jan Hanussen, “the guy who was Hitler’s astrologer.” He’ll be played by Daniel Brühl.

In like Flynn

Meanwhile, as Conrad battles Rasputin, we see Oxford fight for his life against an unknown assailant. According to Vaughn, the flash of steel will be a fairly common occurrence here. “You’re not going to have to have earplugs to watch the action on this one,” he says. “It’s swords and punching, not people being thrown through buildings while the world is exploding above them. It’s a bit more restrained, although there is a 22-minute long action sequence.”

The Arterton of war

In one of the trailer’s last shots, we get a brief look at a gun-toting Gemma Arterton, proving that The King’s Man isn’t quite the swinging sausagefest it seems to be at first glance. “She’s Mary Poppins on steroids,” is pretty much all Vaughn will say of Arterton’s mysterious, unnamed character. “She and Shola work with Ralph’s character. He has butlers and nannies and people looking after him, but they really look after him. They become his family. He’s not a snob. He’s not what you’d expect a posh guy to be.”

Tailor made

And the trailer ends with Oxford, now walking with a cane (possibly from injuries sustained in the line of duty) taking his son to a very familiar London shop. “It’s a rite of passage,” says Vaughn. “Oxford is taking his son there to get his first suit made.” So, it seems that Kingsman, the organisation, is already in play when the movie begins. It’s not quite the Kingsman origin story people might be expecting. “There’s a lot about the history of Kingsman, which I was always intrigued about.” Perhaps we’ll finally find out why a Kingsman prefers Oxfords, not brogues. And perhaps that will be tied in some way to Fiennes’ character.

At the ready

The trailer ends with Oxford sheathing his sword, handily hidden in his cane. “Ralph had done a lot of swordfighting on stage,” explains Vaughn. “And one of his weapons of choice in this is the sword. We’ve got some good swordfights in this. And Ralph was like a duck to water for the action.”

 

[THORin]

I’m so confused about who people are playing in this film. The IMDb, Wikipedia and various news outlets are all saying different things: Arterton is playing Mata Hari, Arterton is playing a character named Polly, Arterton is playing an unidentified character; Bruhl is playing Felix Usupov; Bruhl is playing Jan Hanussen; not to mention the fact that Tom Hollander is apparently playing George V, Kaiser Wilhelm and Czar Nicholas, according to Wikipedia.

 

[David H.]

Tom Hollander is apparently playing George V, Kaiser Wilhelm and Czar Nicholas, according to Wikipedia.

Well, they were all cousins who greatly resembled one another, save for their beards/mustaches.

 

[THORin]

Well, they were all cousins who greatly resembled one another, save for their beards/mustaches.

Good point.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I’m so confused about who people are playing in this film. The IMDb, Wikipedia and various news outlets are all saying different things: Arterton is playing Mata Hari, Arterton is playing a character named Polly, Arterton is playing an unidentified character; Bruhl is playing Felix Usupov; Bruhl is playing Jan Hanussen; not to mention the fact that Tom Hollander is apparently playing George V, Kaiser Wilhelm and Czar Nicholas, according to Wikipedia.

It all seems like BS. Nothing on the wiki was right his morning either.

 

[Marvolo]

Trailer's out:

That looks a lot more interesting than the second one. I like the serious tone of the trailer too. I dont think the over the top Roger Moore esque farce and stupidity of the previous films would really fit the time period and WW1 veterans.

Also, I didnt realize that Rasputin would be the villain of the film. That's pretty cool.

 

[#root]

I thought the second one was disappointing and not nearly as funny as the first but I’m seriously digging the trailer Really hope Vaughn’s back on track.

I really, really, really hope Gemma gets something to do here that is substantial. There hasn't been a lot of love for female characters in this series, and I would hate it if they wasted her.

That’s my one major concern. I forgot she was even in it until I saw the one teeny, tiny shot of her in there. Hope she gets treated better than poor Roxy.

 

[TheVileOne]

Well I'm little surprised they are doing a prequel so far removed from the original. So there's that at least. Like this isn't a Colin Firth prequel, unless these people are his ancestors or like his grandparents or something. Like this is set over 100 years ago.

A big part of the first two movies was all the post-modern and pop-culture riffs. A period setting means they won't be able to rely on that quite as much. And you know what? That could potentially be a good thing.

I've said in the past, the prequel/sequel thing is very hard. If it's too different people get angry. If it's too similar people get angry. It's an almost impossible job to live up to when you catch lightning in a bottle or have such an entertaining opening act.

 

[Marvolo]

I hope this film embraces the weird and occult stuff with Rasputin. The way they embraced the scifi Bond tech in the previous two films. Have Rasputin doing sacrifices and things that might be black magic. And make him seem immortal and impossible to kill. Poison him, shoot him, stab him, blow him up...make him one very tough extremely creepy bastard.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Color me still skeptical after that trailer. I know everyone loves Vaughn, and he is talented, but... I'm not sure how the final product will actually reflect the way this trailer comes off given the two previous installments plus I suspect it will actually be in line with the previous films and... I am guessing it could come off actually jarring.

I am still of the mind that what worked the first time wasn't so much the setting, story and certainly not Egerton as the co-lead. I think it was Firth in a stylized Bond pastiche. And I just don't think that's ever going to really be recaptured in this franchise.

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah I’m not really convinced by it so far. The new eggsy looks a bit posh and bland. Guess we’ll see though. If anyone can pull off a miracle Vaughn can

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Loving the trailer and the look of this movie, count me the hell in.

 

[CB Fan]

Yeah I’m not really convinced by it so far. The new eggsy looks a bit posh and bland. Guess we’ll see though. If anyone can pull off a miracle Vaughn can

Yes, he does...

As far as the trailer it looks interesting I hope this is a return to form for Vaughn cause the last one was just a bit ****.

 

[Sithborg]

I think that's the point. I do wonder if it is the Michael Caine Arthur from the first film

 

[Marvolo]

I think that's the point. I do wonder if it is the Michael Caine Arthur from the first film

That was my thought as well.

Yeah I’m not really convinced by it so far. The new eggsy looks a bit posh and bland. Guess we’ll see though. If anyone can pull off a miracle Vaughn can

Yes, he does...

As far as the trailer it looks interesting I hope this is a return to form for Vaughn cause the last one was just a bit ****.

Considering the time period, isnt it appropriate that this film's Eggsy be posh and well put together? The Kingsman recruit from the upperclass and well to do. And in the 1920s in england I'd expect a young man to be well put together and well dressed and well mannered. Not anything like Eggsy.

 

[HammerDown]

Amazing trailer. Unexpected concept.
What a great idea and the execution seems on point.

 

[godisawesome]

The first Kingsman movie managed to perfectly balance its camp with some genuine tension and drama; it was a loving send up to the Moore era of Bond, but one mindful of reconstructing it’s sometimes mocked source material to help make it work. The second film leaned a bit too heavily into pure crazy camp, and maybe undermined some of its edge, and I’d say it was a mistake to kill off Roxy but bring back Firth.

This movie might have an advantage if it uses its WWI + Rasputin storyline to mix the crazy with the drama. Fiennes’s speech about noblemen originally just being the best liars, cheaters, and killers is a nice touch, and really fits a cynical appraisal of WWI and the elites’ place in it. And Rasputin is a pitch perfect megalomaniacal villain for the era.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

This looks really promising IMO. Very different from the past two films and I just love the time period it's set in. I enjoyed the last Kingsman movie, but I hope this one is closer to the more serious tone that the trailer is presenting. Also, that cast is insane. Gemma Arterton better have been given some good material to work with, because like someone above me already the women in this series haven't been given anything substantial to do at all and Arterton is way too talented to end up being completely wasted.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I thought I read somewhere that Aaron Taylor Johnson was playing the main character in this. Is he even in it?