Led Zeppelin...best band ever?

[QueerMike]

You'd have to limit genre somehow. You'd get waaaay too many bands if you're doing everything from Led Zeppelin to the Spice Girls. Maybe just do rock bands, but all the branches of rock. (hard, metal, classic, etc)

So you'd have stuff like-

Beatles, Zeppelin, The Who, Queen, Kiss, AC/DC, etc etc etc.

Uh, there is no way the Spice Girls get in this tournament.

Most 'bands' are affiliated with the rock genre but the problem I have with limiting it to rock is the exclusion of bands like The Jackcon Five, Earth Wind and Fire, The Four Tops, and The Carpenters. I personally don;t like any of them much but I can't discount their musical talents and contributions.

With that said, I am currently at about 110 Bands. I want it down to 64 so...

if anyone has any LESSER KNOWN bands they think should be in, post them. If I get enough legit suggestions I may do 128 bands but I'd prefer to cut off the garbage and just go with 64, although that way is alot more difficult.

 

[ganymede23]

Zeppelin were pretty creative but I prefer the Jeff Beck Group of Beck-Ola and Truth. Also the Yardbvirds were more exciting than LZ, whose original name was New Yardbirds, according to Lillian Roxon's Rock Encyclopedia.

70s bands? Give me Steely Dan, Roxy Music, Weather Report, The Kinks, Fairport Convention, Talking Heads, Television and the Soft Machine.

 

[Dkim]

Uh, there is no way the Spice Girls get in this tournament.

Most 'bands' are affiliated with the rock genre but the problem I have with limiting it to rock is the exclusion of bands like The Jackcon Five, Earth Wind and Fire, The Four Tops, and The Carpenters. I personally don;t like any of them much but I can't discount their musical talents and contributions.

With that said, I am currently at about 110 Bands. I want it down to 64 so...

if anyone has any LESSER KNOWN bands they think should be in, post them. If I get enough legit suggestions I may do 128 bands but I'd prefer to cut off the garbage and just go with 64, although that way is alot more difficult.

Joy division is pretty great and is lesser known

 

[QueerMike]

Joy division is pretty great and is lesser known

I don't know if I can squeeze them in. I think one of the criteria for being the "Best Band of All-Time" has to be name recognition and Joy Division ain't got it. If I expand to 128 they could get in though, thanks.

I mean, if you're a great band your name should be pretty well known - just like Tiger Woods is synonoumous with golf or Rachel Ray with cooking.

 

[Dkim]

I don't know if I can squeeze them in. I think one of the criteria for being the "Best Band of All-Time" has to be name recognition and Joy Division ain't got it.

I mean, if you're a great band your name should be pretty well known - just like Tiger Woods is synonoumous with golf or Rachel Ray with cooking.

No biggy, but you said ''if anyone has any LESSER KNOWN bands they think should be in, post them'' so I thought thaat I posted that one

 

[Motown Marvel]

zeppelin is definitely ONE OF the greatest bands of all time, but not THE greatest. that'd have to go to either the beatles or bob dylan. i'd put zeppelin in my top 5 though.

 

[Dangerous]

Led Zep in the 70's were awesome, the reunion was a bad idea as they suck now.

GN'R top em tho.

 

[QueerMike]

No biggy, but you said ''if anyone has any LESSER KNOWN bands they think should be in, post them'' so I thought thaat I posted that one

If they do get in, they will likely be up against one of the #1 seeds. Right now, that would be The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Aerosmith, or The Rolling Stones but I may change the bracketing format.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

bob dylan

Preposterous.

If we're talking "THE BEST", technique has to come in to play somewhere.
He's a second rate wannabe poet (OOOh, "Don't wanna be a bum, betta chew ya GUM." jeeEEEeen-yus!), who can't sing and can strum a few chords.
His song writing is bland....a few blues progressions repeated endlessly while he drops different words into each verse like he's playing Mad Libs.

Besides, we're talking about "BANDS".
He's no band, he's played with tons of different backing dudes.
"BANDS" are an entity to themselves, that once-in-a-lifetime chemistry between a few people....

Paul, John, Ringo, George
Jimmy, Bonzo, Robert, John Paul Jones
The Captain, Tennille

 

[Darknightnomis]

Uh, there is no way the Spice Girls get in this tournament.

Most 'bands' are affiliated with the rock genre but the problem I have with limiting it to rock is the exclusion of bands like The Jackcon Five, Earth Wind and Fire, The Four Tops, and The Carpenters. I personally don;t like any of them much but I can't discount their musical talents and contributions.

With that said, I am currently at about 110 Bands. I want it down to 64 so...

if anyone has any LESSER KNOWN bands they think should be in, post them. If I get enough legit suggestions I may do 128 bands but I'd prefer to cut off the garbage and just go with 64, although that way is alot more difficult.

What about Jazz, or Country, or Techno ?

Are you including any of those genres because Miles Davis 2nd Qunitet is Amazing And you can't take away anything from the influence ALABAMA has on country musicor Kraftwerk on Techno and early Hip Hop.

 

[Dangerous]

If we're talking best Hard Rock band ever, my vote goes to GN'R or AC/DC

 

[Motown Marvel]

Because when it comes to Pop/Rock in the past 40 years the British bands have been the most innovated and best musicians out there.

the brits only sold back to america what chuck berry did years before them.

Best Band in the past 20 years. Without question. No one even close. NO ONE!

i hope by greatest, you mean bull s#!ttiest. bono himself has admitted that their music is bulls#!t pandering to mainstream pop.

 

[QueerMike]

What about Jazz, or Country, or Techno ?

Are you including any of those genres because Miles Davis 2nd Qunitet is Amazing And you can't take away anything from the influence ALABAMA has on country musicor Kraftwerk on Techno and early Hip Hop.

Yes, it has been decided that it will be open to ALL genres but I doubt any Techno will make the field of 128.

Miles Davis Quintet is in but don't hold your breath on them staying in.

Alabama? Are you talking about Neil Young? He's not a band.

 

[QueerMike]

I hoping to include tracks of each entrant.

Good idea or bad?

 

[Darknightnomis]

The Beatles are not even close to being the best band of all-time. Their infamey lies only in their being 'first.' I don't want to be misunderstood though. The Beatles are a great band that paved the way for all others but by no means in HELL are they the best ever.

And to the people who say 'The Beatles would never be signed in todays music industry'...

If John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and George Harrison were born in the late 80's or early 90's they would have had the music of the 90's as an influence and likely produced something that was better than most of the music of today.

What most of us were saying concerning the Fab 4 being in the musis industry today is not that they wouldn't make music that was as influenctial today as back then, but that the record industry is so control by corporations today that they would stiffled there creative output for a more "safe" sound with mass appeal for today's audience that only thinkg they should take what company's force feed them in cookie cutting fashion.

They would come out with an appealing sound, then try and do experiemntal stuff likt they did in the 60s and the record company would proboly "encourage" them to go to a more sellable sound, and they would more than likely refuse, and then the record label would drop them from their label.

No label, no way to distrubute your music to the masses.

At the time the Beatles were recording the musc industry was in need for a change ansd society as well was embracing different sounds and challenging conventional concepts (including music)

Corpoations have much more of an iron fist on the artist today (legallly) for that to happen to such a degreee as when the Beatles werre recording in the 60s.


And the BEATLES were the greatest band of all time.

 

[Darknightnomis]

the brits only sold back to america what chuck berry did years before them.


i hope by greatest, you mean bull s#!ttiest. bono himself has admitted that their music is bulls#!t pandering to mainstream pop.

Yeah but after the Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee lewis, Little Richard and Elvis (going into the army) ther was a time in the early '60s that American Rock n Roll sounded like "Soft Rock" and pandered to the mainstream as "safe" music.

This is why when the Beatles came along in '64 (in America at least) they added a jolt in Pop/Rock music that was sorely needed and why a lot of American Parents and politicians thought they were "bad" for America teens.

And Bono may have said some of their music is Bull$%&# but even John Lennon have said that about some Beatles songs and Even Jimmi Page have said that about Zepplin's "In through the out door".

All artist put down their music.

 

[CanaryFan]

No. You're wrong.

Iron Butterfly's debut album was called "Heavy", and the one about Jimi Hendrix sounding like "heavy metal falling from the sky" is disputed.

The first documented uses of the phrase to describe a type of rock music are from reviews by critic Mike Saunders. ...

Calling something heavy and heavy metal are two different things and I don't know what you're considering Documented But I've seen American flyers for The New Yardbirds (Zeppelin before they changed the name) from 67 or 68 that said heavy metal on them.

 

[Motown Marvel]

i totally agree theres no way in hell the beatles would have made it in today's music industry. the industry is far too f**ked up to appreciate tgood music. and anyone who thinks they'd put a song like "she loves you" or "hey jude" on modern radio is insane. go buy the album "howl on the haunted beat you ride" by the Go, thats proof enough that modern day beatles would never make it. because if they could, this album would be #1 on the charts.

Preposterous.

If we're talking "THE BEST", technique has to come in to play somewhere.
He's a second rate wannabe poet (OOOh, "Don't wanna be a bum, betta chew ya GUM." jeeEEEeen-yus!), who can't sing and can strum a few chords.
His song writing is bland....a few blues progressions repeated endlessly while he drops different words into each verse like he's playing Mad Libs.

Besides, we're talking about "BANDS".
He's no band, he's played with tons of different backing dudes.
"BANDS" are an entity to themselves, that once-in-a-lifetime chemistry between a few people....

Paul, John, Ringo, George
Jimmy, Bonzo, Robert, John Paul Jones
The Captain, Tennille

if you want to discount dylan because he's not a band, thats understandable. but, he may not have been the best guitarist or singer, but his song writing is unparallelled. and his passion for the art dwarfed anyone else who stepped in the arena with him. and i can respect that just as much as i can respect page's guitar skills. (and for the record, i actually love the hell outta dylan's voice.)

 

[Dkim]

^ I think that the beatles is the best band ever. Not exactly because of that the superior quality of the music or the writing. But because the impact that they had on music, and still have.

 

[Darknightnomis]

Alabama? Are you talking about Neil Young? He's not a band.

No. Alabama is a very succesful country group for over 40 years.

From Wikepedia:
Alabama is a Grammy Award-winning country music band that originated in Fort Payne, Alabama, United States. They were the most commercially successful country act in the 1980s and remain one of the bestselling American musical acts of all time. The band is often credited with bringing country music groups (as opposed to solo vocalists) into the mainstream, paving the way for the success of today's top country groups.

 

[Dangerous]

the brits only sold back to america what chuck berry did years before them.

That's not true.

Every new musical movement is an evolution from something that came before, but that don't mean any new genre can be solely credited to one of the ingredients that birthed it.

The NWOBHM for example, was a sound created by British artists and that's that.

i hope by greatest, you mean bull s#!ttiest. bono himself has admitted that their music is bulls#!t pandering to mainstream pop.

Heh, all their modern stuff is crap, but they made some good records back in the 80's. Not that I am a particular fan.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Yeah but after the Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee lewis, Little Richard and Elvis (going into the army) ther was a time in the early '60s that American Rock n Roll sounded like "Soft Rock" and pandered to the mainstream as "safe" music.

but despite the lull in american produced rock and roll (which opened the door for the animals, the pioneers of the british invasion) that doesnt take away the fact that chuck berry and company did it first, which is what influenced the brits to follow suit.

This is why when the Beatles came along in '64 (in America at least) they added a jolt in Pop/Rock music that was sorely needed and why a lot of American Parents and politicians thought they were "bad" for America teens.

well, that "jolt" came before the beatles. like i said above, the animals were the first brits over. but no doubt, the beatles did it the best.

And Bono may have said some of their music is Bull$%&# but even John Lennon have said that about some Beatles songs and Even Jimmi Page have said that about Zepplin's "In through the out door".

All artist put down their music.

john lennon liked to stir the pot. and he made many anti-beatles comments in the years that he resented the band. but the resentment was purely personal and nothing against the music itself. general jabs at the music was how he jabbed at paul, for personal reasons. and even despite what bono thinks of their music, i know what i think about it, and it's complete bulls#!t music.

 

[Darknightnomis]

Heh, all their modern stuff is crap, but they made some good records back in the 80's. Not that I am a particular fan.

U2's Best Album may have been there last one they put out "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb".

For mthey have may three "perfect" album that showed their influence and innovation.

Joshua Tree (the perfection of the '80s version of U2)

Achtung Baby (There "Sgt. Pepper", changed the whole look of how we viewed U2 and there music. )

How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (ther first "rock" Album)

 

[Motown Marvel]

That's not true.

Every new musical movement is an evolution from something that came before, but that don't mean any new genre can be solely credited to one of the ingredients that birthed it.

thats true enough. and what were the main influences for the birth of rock and roll? blues and country. again, both birthed from america. im not trying to make this an ego or territorial thing, like america is better than britan because we invented rock and roll...im just saying, thats the facts. and to say otherwise would be disrespectful to the artists who gave us this music.

 

[Motown Marvel]

oh, and though its not gonna be very surprising for me to say this, but the greatest band in the last 20 years is the white stripes.