My problem with future X-Men films is that DOTFP showed a happy future. Of course with 97 % of superhero media we can expect a happy ending, but now we know that for sure.
No we don't. Logan shows an ending that is not happy at all. It's the nail in the coffin of the franchise. Reviewers are assuming this is the last ever X-Men movie or wanting it to be.
Well it seems like Logan may be disproving the whole happy future thing if this is considered canon ( note i havent seen the movie, im just assuming lol)
The characters are supposed to be strong individuals defined by their personalities, not their powers. How many great characters have been completely wasted under Singer?
In the comics whilst they have the X-Men uniforms they are all unique to the individual. Whereas in the films they all have the same generic look to them.
As for the civil rights thing? Yea it's important to the X-Men. But not every single damn story.
Which honestly, I still feel kind of conflicted about. Feel kind of bummed theyre nixing DOFP's happy ending BUT I'm assuming the movie will sell me on its bleak ending since it seems to have won everyone else over, lol
Quite honestly, a new director needs to ignore everything that came before.
Mystique leading the X-Men? An undeveloped Storm (AGAIN!)? Beast still not looking right? Magneto let off the hook for almost destroying the world? An overpowered Quicksilver? A great but near-absent Jubilee? An Angel who got drunk and then died? A Psylocke who was hopelessly underused and undercharacterised? Poor make-up? Poor special FX? Bad wirework? Just one or two characters with personalities while the rest are wallpaper?
Why Mystique would lead the X-Men in next movie. XA ending just show Mystique (biggest Xavier mistake) become good in the new timeline and teach the new X-Men. It is symbolic and her arc is over.
The ending is clear the next star are Jean, Storm, Quiksilver, Nightcrawler with Cyclop for leader. New director can make a direct sequel without contradict FC trilogy and please fan. X-Men are formed, bald Xavier is back, Beast is in blue and they have colorful costume.
For Magneto, you are right but it 's problem with the character. He and Sabretooth made some terrible things but they are X-Men now.
But i think we should comeback to Logan. Congrat for Jackman
My problem with future X-Men films is that DOTFP showed a happy future. Of course with 97 % of superhero media we can expect a happy ending, but now we know that for sure.
The two things that I bolded in my post are actually plot points lifted from the first major Apocalypse story that happened in X-Factor, that the movie was heavily inspired by. In it: Angel goes into depression(but no drinking is involved) after getting his wing mutilated and then seemly dies in a plane explosion. Not unlike the movie version. But he was later revealed to be alive in later issues.
So Angel's "death" in Apocalypse is like Bucky's "death" in The First Avenger. So I think we shouldn't be worried about a reference to a fake death in the comics.
Thrilled it's good. Just saw both trailers for the first time and it looks awesome (fantastic choices for trailer songs too). All of the talk of this being like a western is making me super hyped for this.
The next x-men movie will be a sequel, not a reboot.
The franchise has had its ups and downs but they havent abandoned singers legacy and they probably wont either, whether its spin offs or the tv show singer is directing the pilot for
No we don't. Logan shows an ending that is not happy at all. It's the nail in the coffin of the franchise. Reviewers are assuming this is the last ever X-Men movie or wanting it to be.
Yeah, but I am assuming that next X-Men movies would be about the time before DOFP's ending and by extension before Logan's world.
So let's say that the next X-Men is set in 90's. Then, assuming that there's no more time travel involved, we would know that things turn out OK, until everything goes to hell. Kind of makes me not care about what happened in 90's, lol.
The next x-men movie will be a sequel, not a reboot.
The franchise has had its ups and downs but they havent abandoned the singers legacy and they probably wont either, whether its spin offs or the tv show singer is directing the pilot for
it really is the same old story.same one we also saw with first class and deadpool.use new film to bash singer and say how terrable he was.
first class was singer's story.the fact we got a silver age marvel film was because of him and he was factor why vaughn was hired.Vaughn himself admitted he burned bridges at fox and singer and kinberg were reason he
was hired.Singer and Donner were ones pushing to expand the X-Men universe into TV.
while Logan kind of makes future X-Men films kind of waste of time
due to them all dying
fox ainet rebooting.next flagship X-Men film will be sequel to first class,Days of future past,and
Apocalypse.Kinberg is writing it and he,singer,and donner all producing.
Apocalypse brought certain things to a close.The first class trilogy is just as much Singerverse as original trilogy was,and he wasn't even involved with last stand,and he is directing pilot for fox X related tv show.
style and quality of supernova will fall on who directs.Vaughn brought a 60's bond vibe to first class
with cable being introduced in deadpool 2 who knows if logan or even future ending of DOFP will remain part of timeline.
The two things that I bolded in my post are actually plot points lifted from the first major Apocalypse story that happened in X-Factor, that the movie was heavily inspired by. In it: Angel goes into depression(but no drinking is involved) after getting his wing mutilated and then seemly dies in a plane explosion. Not unlike the movie version. But he was later revealed to be alive in later issues.
Except that Angel was an original five X-Man with quite a bit of history, Apocalypse Angel was just a mutant with wings who we were just introduced to and know nothing about, and has no association with X-Men. Singer could've attempted to redeem him switching for the X-Men like Storm but he didn't. The damage is done.
However I don't think it will necessarily affect the next movie.
Yeah, but I am assuming that next X-Men movies would be about the time before DOFP's ending and by extension before Logan's world.
So let's say that the next X-Men is set in 90's. Then, assuming that there's no more time travel involved, we would know that things turn out OK, until everything goes to hell. Kind of makes me not care about what happened in 90's, lol.
well the haters hope logan is last x film ever.and yes it does make future X films set in past be a kind of why bother since we all know it ends badly for them.
However the odds are very good they will use cable to negate the events of logan.or possibly even the future ending of DOFP.
well the haters hope logan is last x film ever.and yes it does make future X films set in past be a kind of why bother since we all know it ends badly for them.
However the odds are very good they will use cable to negate the events of logan.or possibly even the future ending of DOFP.
Reviewers who loved the film are saying it feels like the last ever X-Men movie, or that they want it to be because it bring such closure to everything and everyone.
Honestly, it feels like a Marvel reboot would be the best step now, with a completely clean slate.
If we now get a 90s X-Men movie we know now
that it's the X-Men's own mentor/founder who wipes them out. What does that say about the idea of family at the end of XM:A? That Xavier is the X-Men's worst enemy, the one who will ultimately destroy them all?
Reviewers who loved the film are saying it feels like the last ever X-Men movie, or that they want it to be because it bring such closure to everything and everyone.
Yes, this movie isn't even out and fans haven't seen it, yet it's already being used as a battle cry to reboot the franchise and give it to Marvel (ugh, as if Marvel would ever make something like DOFP, Deadpool, Legion, or Logan?) or others just want to wipe it all out.
To paraphrase the trailer, take a moment. For fans this what you have always wanted. Honestly, in the last six years, the only X-Men movie that hasn't been good is Apocalypse, and even that was still "OK" (IMO) and certainly had plenty of stuff X-Men fans have wanted to see on the big screen for decades.
For the record, I do think the franchise needs fresh blood in the director's chair and behind the screenwriter's pen too in regards to Supernova. But as a whole, the franchise is really flourishing at the moment and showing a far greater use of storytelling diversity than Marvel and DC. That is something to take a moment for, indeed. Especially since Logan seems to be a more standalone affair.
Reviewers who loved the film are saying it feels like the last ever X-Men movie, or that they want it to be because it bring such closure to everything and everyone.
Honestly, it feels like a Marvel reboot would be the best step now, with a completely clean slate.
If we now get a 90s X-Men movie we know now
that it's the X-Men's own mentor/founder who wipes them out. What does that say about the idea of family at the end of XM:A? That Xavier is the X-Men's worst enemy, the one who will ultimately destroy them all?
except all evidance says fox isn't going to just hand over X-Men to disney.
even the legion and other show are mostly produced by fox.
First class,DOFP,Deadpool,and now logan as they exsist would never have
been done by disney.a 1960's film without any reference to stark ha.a film with dark future where to win day time travel is necsary.not to mention DOFP was only possable because fox didn't listen to those who keep crying reboot.a r rated film with sex and blood with star who was box office poison and first time director and without forcing other characters into it.and with Logan they made gritty r rated western.
If logan is hit.let's say it does better domesticly than eather first class or apocalypse you really expect fox to fire creative team that has kept X-men running.the enitre reason for spider-man homecoming is sony's overall sorry shape.who knows if sony sells off it's film divison disney may outright buy
sony film diversion.fox isn't in this shape at all.
while i am not over the moon on first class and deadpool as others those films were made possibly because of how things work at fox.
Wait, there are people who think Fox is giving the X-men back to Disney? After the monster hit of Deadpool and now the overwhelming critical success of Logan?
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