With Logan, for all its own dramatic weight and heaviness in general, it is still hewing to a fairly straightforward story with clear cut heroes and villains. If anything it is about a hero finding his soul and purpose again. As such it is a comparably lighter watch and has some great (In my view anyway...) set pieces revolving around action. There are some visceral thrills still to be found.
Joker is even less "glam" than Logan in that sense. Again... I am not knocking the movie. It is aces on almost every level. I know for sure THIS is my Gotham City. A real living, breathing place filled with real people. The production design is top notch, evoking the feel of Stranger Things season 1/2 in the sense that the period touches are there but aren't necessarily focused on or fetishized (Let me be clear I am speaking of the production design, sets, costuming, that part. I am well aware of how in story the 80's touchstones were quite front and center in ST.) but are just a natural part of the story being told in this time period. The cast is uniformly good to great and the dialog is sharp and the story never leaves you uninterested in what is happening on screen.
That we are at a point where a film based on the Joker of all characters can be made in this manner and be a success critically and financially is something 14 year old me would never have imagined.