The Dark Knight LR: Has some news for us

[Agentsands77]

People are suggesting that these recastings didn't work because the person that followed the original was inferior. That's not going to happen here. The new Dawes would have to work HARD to be as bad as Katie Holmes was.

I highly doubt anyone will walk out of THE DARK KNIGHT and think, "Katie Holmes was so much better in that role."

 

[FlawlessVictory]

OK, THEN Dumbeldore in Harry Potter. Rebuke that one...if you dare.

Yes, this is one I thought of as well, but too bad half his face is covered! t:

 

["V"]

No offence, but one hand you say that recasting Rachel won't work and on the other hand, Nolan is saying it can work on the basis that he is going to do so.

Um...Sorry, but I have to go with Nolan on this one.

Ahem, did I say it wouldn't work or did I say I wouldn't want one? There's a difference.

And I haven't been convinced with your examples of successful recasting, mainly because they have been minor players or smaller films that did not aim at the original audience.

If Nolan thinks it can work, then he will obviously follow that route through. However, I think he is a very astute man and won't have put all of his eggs in Rachel Dawes' basket.

And Batcomputer, Flawless summed it up really. The original Jenifer was only in the first film for about 2 minutes, it's not like she was a constantly in the film like Rachel. George McFly was in for about 10 seconds and ate some pizza. Oracle wasn't a patch on the original, but it was explained in a plausible way within the film. And Julianne Moore as Starling is debtable.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Yes, this is one I thought of as well, but too bad half his face is covered! t:

Same for George Mcfly in Part II. He's wearing tons of prosthetics.

 

[raybia]

Yes, this is one I thought of as well, but too bad half his face is covered! t:

D'oh!!

 

[Cinemaman]

Ok.

It will get released in Summer of 2009 now. Thanks Cinemanman!

Alright, I have decided to change my mind

 

[raybia]

People are suggesting that these recastings didn't work because the person that followed the original was inferior. That's not going to happen here. The new Dawes would have to work HARD to be as bad as Katie Holmes was.

I highly doubt anyone will walk out of THE DARK KNIGHT and think, "Katie Holmes was so much better in that role."

[QUOTE="V";11060019]Ahem, did I say it wouldn't work or did I say I wouldn't want one? There's a difference.

And I haven't been convinced with your examples of successful recasting, mainly because they have been minor players or smaller films that did not aim at the original audience.

If Nolan thinks it can work, then he will obviously follow that route through. However, I think he is a very astute man and won't have put all of his eggs in Rachel Dawes' basket.

And Batcomputer, Flawless summed it up really. The original Jenifer was only in the first film for about 2 minutes, it's not like she was a constantly in the film like Rachel. George McFly was in for about 10 seconds and ate some pizza. Oracle wasn't a patch on the original, but it was explained in a plausible way within the film. And Julianne Moore as Starling is debtable.[/QUOTE]

Agentsands post clearly explains it.


Also Dumbledore in Harry Potter. That is the Harry Potter franchise. Heard of it?

 

[Mr. Socko]

I think Judy Dench should be the recast.

I mean she's an oscar nom!

 

[Crooklyn]

People are suggesting that these recastings didn't work because the person that followed the original was inferior. That's not going to happen here. The new Dawes would have to work HARD to be as bad as Katie Holmes was.

I highly doubt anyone will walk out of THE DARK KNIGHT and think, "Katie Holmes was so much better in that role."

It's not a liked idea simply because of continuity. We're hardly angry Holmes isn't coming back.

 

[Tojo]

Recasting
Norton
No Cobblepot

Seriously she was a horrible character anyway in a totally unengaging reltaionship. it just looks so ******ed to have someone else in the part. Granted Holmes was as bad as an actress comes, and now she is in the hands of Satan, but just say oh that ****ty DA got transferred to Chicago bada boom. And that is why we have Dent. What is so hard about that?

 

[Mr. Socko]

****ty DA...lol

 

["V"]

Agentsands post clearly explains it.


Also Dumbledore in Harry Potter. That is the Harry Potter franchise. Heard of it?

Sands is suggesting that a replacement wouldn't be as bad as Holmes, but we don't know who they are casting yet. I dislike the casting of the characters because everything changes. Mannerisims, expresions, and of course appearance.

Oh, and I have heard of Harry Potter. I don't like it though, it's basically a montage of every popular fantasy/sci fi film from the last century turned into a kids book. And the character of Dumbledore went from being a fragile, slow paced man into a brisk, strong performance with the recasting....

 

[raybia]

I think Judy Dench should be the recast.

I mean she's an oscar nom!

Hmmm. I love me some Dench.

 

[raybia]

[QUOTE="V";11060100]Sands is suggesting that a replacement wouldn't be as bad as Holmes, but we don't know who they are casting yet. I dislike the casting of the characters because everything changes. Mannerisims, expresions, and of course appearance.[/QUOTE]


Yes, the key is who will be cast. This is critcial. Stay tuned.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Hmmm. I love me some Dench.

You still hoping for that nude scene

 

["V"]

Yes, the key is who will be cast. This is critcial. Stay tuned.

Exactly, so we can't say either way whether it would work, but history suggests it's unlikely.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I dunno......I mean, Rachel's a good character. And everyone seems to agree that the problem with her was Katie.......so, re-cast the role. No biggie.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I dunno......I mean, Rachel's a good character. And everyone seems to agree that the problem with her was Katie.......so, re-cast the role. No biggie.

Don't lie to yourself. You know you want Dench.

 

[Tojo]

Although Norton could win me over, not so sure about Foxx.

Actually i agree. While i think Norton could pull off the role with ease, he is not my first choice(Phoenix is). Foxx, good actor, but not Dent.

 

[Tojo]

I dunno......I mean, Rachel's a good character. And everyone seems to agree that the problem with her was Katie.......so, re-cast the role. No biggie.

She's a freakin horrible character.

Actually i think that is holmes's fault lol

 

[Agentsands77]

I dunno......I mean, Rachel's a good character. And everyone seems to agree that the problem with her was Katie.......so, re-cast the role. No biggie.

Quite right.

So what if there won't be perfect continuity between BEGINS and DARK KNIGHT. It's not worth shedding tears over. Sure, it would be nice if they'd just rewritten Holmes out entirely, but she obviously opted out at the last minute and threw everybody a curveball, and the fact that they're searching for a replacement indicates her role in THE DARK KNIGHT is pretty crucial.

I find the situation liveable. Nothing worth whining about. And still, Holmes is gone. :::rejoices:::

 

[Batman jr.]

Maybe Cruise told her that scientology doesn't like bats.

 

[JStorm]

I agree with you guys on the recasting idea. I DO NOT want another actress to play Rachel.

What ever happened to the Nolan that stood on words like continuity, believability, reality, etc? How is there continuity if another actress plays Rahcel? Or believability, and reality, and so on?

One posters stated that Rachel might cameo in name only. If so, I like that idea. However, I think the philiosophy, or term we all should take is "take everything that doesn't come from The WB/The Nolan's/or direct Reps with a grain of salt." I'm not degrading Latino Reviews; I'm just holding out for Nolan to do what he's always done: make great movies with great characters without the bs.

Having said that, and I take this with a grain of salt as well, but here's to "I am Jack's raging dual identity."

 

[El Payaso]

What ever happened to the Nolan that stood on words like continuity, believability, reality, etc?

Was replaced by the Nolan that stands for quality.

Btw, if for believability, Holomes was anything but believable as Rachel.

 

[Seen]

Was replaced by the Nolan that stands for quality.

Btw, if for believability, Holomes was anything but believable as Rachel.

Her nipples were pretty believable.