Magical Spear? What about the mask?

[DarkJester]

Seriously though, where the hell did Norman get the mask? Don't give me the "Well didn't you see he's a mask collector?" argument: those masks are all like, tribal masks and foreign, the Goblin mask just came out of nowhere and just happened to fit the costume so perfectly, yet was nowhere to be seen in the testing facility. Any thoughts?

 

[Matt Murdock]

hes a prize winning scientist.
who had been given a performance enhancer.
Who also happened to collect, and know the meanings behind, several masks.

Is it so radical to think that he made it?

Stromm was found the morning after osborn took the meds. Taking into consideration that the facility was abandoned when stromm and norman did the test, that puts the time around 7-9:00. We see that the actual change in norman only took about 4-5 minutes.

Now, because harry was preparing to go to school when he found his father, we can assume that it was around 7:00 AM to 7:45 am. So, using his extensive background in various sciences and his knowledge of how certain traits in masks effect humans, it isn't such a radical idea to say that norman made it. 10-12 hours would have been plenty of time for norman without the enhancer, and since he took it, that might've shaved off an hour or two. This left him with plenty of time to get dressed, and go to his room.

 

[matthooper]

hes a prize winning scientist.
who had been given a performance enhancer.
Who also happened to collect, and know the meanings behind, several masks.

Is it so radical to think that he made it?

You hit the nail on the head.

Norman, a world famous scientist, who even Peter looks up to, now enhanced and corrupted by the syrum could easily make the mask, trident and pumpkin bombs. It's basic superhero world logic. I never really saw a problem until people starting to nit-pick a film about a guy with the powers of a spider. I still don't see a problem, I'm just shocked that people actually think about stuff like that.

 

[Cyclops]

The weapons were already made. There were compartments for them in the glider and everything. As for the mask, it probably comes from the same dimension that Peter's professional-grade Spider-Man costume came from.

 

[matthooper]

The weapons were already made. There were compartments for them in the glider and everything.

So the pumpkin bombs shaped like a pumpkin, were made by Oscorp for the government contract? I don't think so, either was the trident. They were made by Norman after becoming the Goblin. He could have simply modified the glider to put the weapons he made.

Those weapons were never spoken about at Oscorp, it was the glider and the syrum. If they were for the govt. contract, why not mention they were perfected?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

The trident was cool, it should've been used more.

 

[Cyclops]

So the pumpkin bombs shaped like a pumpkin, were made by Oscorp for the government contract? I don't think so, either was the trident. They were made by Norman after becoming the Goblin. He could have simply modified the glider to put the weapons he made.

Those weapons were never spoken about at Oscorp, it was the glider and the syrum. If they were for the govt. contract, why not mention they were perfected?

I dunno about you, but I've never seen a pumpkin that was perfectly spherical. They were spherical grenades that just so happened to be orange.

 

[matthooper]

The trident was cool, it should've been used more.

It was originally supposed to be used more.

 

[matthooper]

I dunno about you, but I've never seen a pumpkin that was perfectly spherical. They were spherical grenades that just so happened to be orange.

Since there were already missles and machine guns on the glider, I thought it was pretty obvious that Norman added the pumkin bomb and trident himself. Both weapons Norman made were references to goblins, ghouls and ancient myth type stuff and would have no place in a government weapon.

 

[Matt Murdock]

i don't think he made the pumpkin bombs, i think he just painted various types of bombs orange. Same goes for the trident. the only thing i think he made was the mask

i mean, it would have taken him a while to make all of the pumpkin bombs we saw at the end of sm2/

 

[TwilightPro101]

He made them because he needed them. Plain and simple.

 

[Matt Murdock]

that doesn't answer his question.....

 

[Cyclops]

Since there were already missles and machine guns on the glider, I thought it was pretty obvious that Norman added the pumkin bomb and trident himself. Both weapons Norman made were references to goblins, ghouls and ancient myth type stuff and would have no place in a government weapon.

But there are two specific slots in the glider to store and eject the orange grenades. Did he redesign the entire glider just to facilitate bombs or were they already there? I think they were already there, myself.

And it's quite clear that the bombs are not painted, but made of translucent orange material.

 

[Matt Murdock]

not so translucent.
looks more like it was painted to me.

 

[Cyclops]

CGI concept art.

 

[Abaddon]

Rita Repulsa gave it to him.

 

[Geko]

The Goblin helmit is aerodynamic, like a speed-skater's helmit. Untill Norman takes it for it's first practical "test" we only see the glider in the lab with a pilot wearing the goblin armor and no mask. However the glider flies at high speeds and is capable of impressive altitude as well. A helmit had to always have been part of the design, to protect the pilot, it just wasn't necessary in the lab.
Add to this the established fact that Norman had a "thing" for tribal war masks, and that early pilots used to paint scary faces on their planes, and it's not much of a stretch to assume the helmit was always part of the package.

Now for the spear.
The glider has bombs and guns, but it could also be used to covertly slip in behind enemy lines. Norman would have been a fool not to build into it some kind of hand to hand combat solution. Ever having a flair for the dramatic, instead of equiping the glider with a noisy gun, it has the quiet electro-trident.

That Norman Osborn was a visonary I tell ya!

 

[matthooper]

I guess we could debate this forever. One side are the people who think Norman designed everything the Goblin used in the lab before he went mad. Others who think the Goblin related stuff (trident, helmet, pumpkin bombs)were made after he went mad. Remember, he still had access to the lab after he went mad. He was already the Goblin when he was fired.

I guess we'd have to ask Sam Raimi for the answer.

 

[Mr Jide]

Seriously though, where the hell did Norman get the mask? Don't give me the "Well didn't you see he's a mask collector?" argument: those masks are all like, tribal masks and foreign, the Goblin mask just came out of nowhere and just happened to fit the costume so perfectly, yet was nowhere to be seen in the testing facility. Any thoughts?

Most likely to be a conceptual prototype that he had in storage.

 

[November Rain]

Rita Repulsa gave it to him.

That's the funniest thing i have read alll ****ing day....

 

[spider greg]

At the risk of taking this too seriously......Hopefully an old Hypster can back me up on this, originally, if I remember correctly,the mask was already part of the costume, and the reason for the Goblin face was to intimidate the enemy, much like ancient warriors would wear masks in battle to scare their opponents. I would assume this explanation was never filmed. Anyone remember this?

 

[Matt Murdock]

i know they did that in the game, so maybe thats what you're thinking of.

 

[Abaddon]

That's the funniest thing i have read alll ****ing day....

Yeah, Hype's been disappointing lately.

 

[Vile]

Personally, I believe Norman made the mask - but I believe he had a blueprint to work with.

If you watch the test pilot on the glider, he is wear some sort of Goggled-head gear. Now, who is to say those goggles don't retract (like the helmet lenses seen early) and all Norman did was build a base goblin-face helmet to fit over it.

 

[webhead731]

He got it on eBay guys. They're all over the place there.