Maguire confirms symbiote is from outer space

drmick said:
It' so obvious that Raimi is being reasonably faithful to the comics:

Symbiote will be extra-terrestial.

MJ will survive.

Gwen will die (sometime).

Harry will die (sometime).

Brock will survive.

Swap Gwen and Brock's fate around, and you have it right.
 
venom4life said:
Are you officially denying the existence of extraterrestrial life in the endless reaches of the universe? With countless stars, planets and galaxies, that earth, and only earth possess life? Who has been talking to you! What do you know? More importantly, what are you hiding?!

Are you a grey alien?

No, no, this one means only to say he felt it a tad bit out of place from what's been an Earthly franchise, but in the end it won't matter, I'll still gouge your eyes out if you try to steal my ticket.
 
Doc Ock said:
Swap Gwen and Brock's fate around, and you have it right.

Admittedly the Q&A IMPLIED Brock's death, but the term "end of the road for Brock's Venom, but not the symbiote" or something like that was used, which could mean other things like redemption, insanity/institutionalisation etc.

Raimi has not diverged significantly from the comics, at least not in comparison to X-men, Superman, and even Batman.

Your well-known criticism of SM2 Doc Ock, as well as organic webshooters, genetically altered spider etc. are comparatively minor.
 
So Raimi thinks outer space aliens and a guy turning into sand is realistic but a teenager prodigy making web formula isn't.

What an idiotic hypocrite.
 
blind_fury said:
So Raimi thinks outer space aliens and a guy turning into sand is realistic but a teenager prodigy making web formula isn't.

What an idiotic hypocrite.

Unfortunately, I agree with Raimi.

Life-forms on other planets is a possibility, and even within our own solar system.

Shapeshifting sand? Maybe not, but it is possible (but not at room temp) that silicon could be the basic atom used for the molecular building blocks of life (instead of carbon).

So there :yay:
 
drmick said:
Unfortunately, I agree with Raimi.

Life-forms on other planets is a possibility, and even within our own solar system.
So why don't we just put the Shi'ar Empire in the X-men movies while were at it?

Shapeshifting sand? Maybe not, but it is possible (but not at room temp) that silicon could be the basic atom used for the molecular building blocks of life (instead of carbon).

So there :yay:
Wow, you're really stretching there. A guy that can change back and forth from sand to flesh and blood is more realistic than a teenage prodigy making web formula? Yeah sure. :whatever:

explain to me how brain matter, internal organs, and the digestive system can change into sand then revert back to it's former state like it never happened. :huh:
 
blind_fury said:
So Raimi thinks outer space aliens and a guy turning into sand is realistic but a teenager prodigy making web formula isn't.

What an idiotic hypocrite.
...And yet, you'll be the first one in the theater, paying your cash to watch this idiotic hypocrite's movie. Will you people ever learn, talk about hypocritical? :o
 
I watch Spider-man movies because I love the character. Hitler could direct a Spider-man movie and I'd watch it. Especially if it was the only Spider-man movie available.
 
blind_fury said:
explain to me how brain matter, internal organs, and the digestive system can change into sand then revert back to it's former state like it never happened. :huh:

Using the same magical process by which webfluid is made (organic or teenage-prodigy based).

Using the same process by which Mystique shape-shifts.

Using the same process by which a light-saber's ray doesn't just continue on infinitely in the direction it is pointed.

Using the same process by which space ships travel faster than the speed of light.

Using the same process by which Hogwarts trainees do those crazy things.

Using the same process by which Vampires get an erection without having a heart that beats.

Etc etc.

Do you see?
 
I'm not arguing that fantasy shouldn't be allowed in comic book movies. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of not using webshooters because of a lack of realism.
 
So, now that you've pointed out the hypocrisy, should we throw a parade in your honor?
 
drmick said:
Admittedly the Q&A IMPLIED Brock's death, but the term "end of the road for Brock's Venom, but not the symbiote" or something like that was used, which could mean other things like redemption, insanity/institutionalisation etc.

No, it said he was killed.

Your well-known criticism of SM2 Doc Ock, as well as organic webshooters, genetically altered spider etc. are comparatively minor.

You're confusing me with someone else buddy. I have no problem with organic webshooters, or genetically altered spiders, or Doc Ock in SM-2. Just look at my avvy :cwink:
 
drmick said:
Admittedly the Q&A IMPLIED Brock's death, but the term "end of the road for Brock's Venom, but not the symbiote" or something like that was used, which could mean other things like redemption, insanity/institutionalisation etc.

Raimi has not diverged significantly from the comics, at least not in comparison to X-men, Superman, and even Batman.

Your well-known criticism of SM2 Doc Ock, as well as organic webshooters, genetically altered spider etc. are comparatively minor.
we do not know if brock will die though, brock still could live.
 
Doc Ock said:
No, it said he was killed.
Are you referring to the script summary because the Q&A just said "End of the line for Brocks version of Venom, but not the symbiote itself." Which could indicate he dies. But if read further into it you'll see that he says this on the deaths, "Still undetermined. Though Harry will bite it." This could mean that Venom's death is still undetermined.
Here's the link. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7781285&postcount=70
The script summary said that Venom is "shanked" though, whatever that means. I thought it was a golf term...
 
lordofthenerds said:
Are you referring to the script summary because the Q&A just said "End of the line for Brocks version of Venom, but not the symbiote itself." Which could indicate he dies.

Yeah, that's the one.

If it's the end of the line for Brock's Venom, that that obviously means he bites the dust. Otherwise it wouldn't have indicated that the symbiote lives.
 
lordofthenerds said:
Are you referring to the script summary because the Q&A just said "End of the line for Brocks version of Venom, but not the symbiote itself." Which could indicate he dies. But if read further into it you'll see that he says this on the deaths, "Still undetermined. Though Harry will bite it." This could mean that Venom's death is still undetermined.
Here's the link. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7781285&postcount=70
The script summary said that Venom is "shanked" though, whatever that means. I thought it was a golf term...
maybe it means that the symbiote got shanked off brock
 
Doc Ock said:
Yeah, that's the one.

If it's the end of the line for Brock's Venom, that that obviously means he bites the dust. Otherwise it wouldn't have indicated that the symbiote lives.
probably, the symbiote lives for sure though, i doubt brock will live....i wonder what kills him though, what do you think Doc OcK?
 
Doc Ock said:
Yeah, that's the one.

If it's the end of the line for Brock's Venom, that that obviously means he bites the dust. Otherwise it wouldn't have indicated that the symbiote lives.
Yeah, but like I said before Lakiamai also said that all the death's were undetermined other than Harry's. I don't see why he wouldn't just put Brock's name next to Harry's.
 
lordofthenerds said:
Yeah, but like I said before Lakiamai also said that all the death's were undetermined other than Harry's. I don't see why he wouldn't just put Brock's next by Harry's.
the thing that concerns me is...if the script summary said it, then why would the Q&A say it is undetermined?
 
For all we know Raimi went with the organics to make Peter a little more relateable. The whole spider powers, as well as his foes, and the amazing things they all do is enough 'fantasy' is it not??
 
spidermanhero12 said:
the thing that concerns me is...if the script summary said it, then why would the Q&A say it is undetermined?
Maybe Raimi was thinking about making a couple of changes to the script. And the script summary never directly said Venom would be killed, unless he thought shanked meant that.
 
lordofthenerds said:
Maybe Raimi was thinking about making a couple of changes to the script. And the script summary never directly said Venom would be killed, unless he thought shanked meant that.
you might be right.
 
Raimi said in the premiere mag that Topher probably won't be back in the next film. :cmad:
 
He could be in jail. Or in hospital.

Brock will not die, there has been no significant divergence from the comics, not even from what we know now about SM3.

Thus, it is safe to assume, Brock does not die. Or at least we do not know for sure he died. Like Doc Ock in SM2.

And to Doc Ock, my apologies, I could have sworn it was you who tirades in the SM2 forum about how movie Doc Ock was crap compared to comic Doc Ock.
 
I just cant wait to see Venom arrive. I also want to see Sandman full fledged.
 

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