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Homecoming Marvel & Sony's Spider-Man (2017) General Discussion - Part 17

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I imagine in Feige's office in a vault behind a framed picture he has scripts for Spider-Man, X-Men, and F4. Plus ways they can immediately intertwine those characters into their current plans.:oldrazz:
plus scripts for all relevant characters of the Distinguished Competition... just in case
 
People would assume that Tobey would also be returning.

Ok, please stop..... Just no.... I don't understand why people think Tobey is the definitive Peter Parker/ Spiderman, when there's so much opportunity to get other actors that does the job a billion times better.
 
Ok, please stop..... Just no.... I don't understand why people think Tobey is the definitive Peter Parker/ Spiderman, when there's so much opportunity to get other actors that does the job a billion times better.

I miss Nicholas Campbell.....:csad:
 
Even if you preferred Tobey over Andrew, I still can't understand how anyone would want him back for the MCU, even if his age wasn't a factor.

I don't think it's a stretch to say Tobey didn't embody the character the same way Downey/Evans/Hemsworth do. Even before the reboot, Tobey still had criticisms going around to an extent that those guys did not. We know there's actors out there who can do a better job and deliver on that level, why settle for Tobey?
 
"It's the one thing that Sony did right; even though their business practices eclipses the moon."
 
Its the general audience who wants Tobey back, literally everywhere I read the news people where asking if Tobey was comming back, he made a giant impression in the general audience which kinda explains why they still love him so much despite his last movie being 8 years ago.

People who are interested in movie news like us, we know Tobey can't come back even if we wanted him to.
 
Its the general audience who wants Tobey back, literally everywhere I read the news people where asking if Tobey was comming back, he made a giant impression in the general audience which kinda explains why they still love him so much despite his last movie being 8 years ago.

People who are interested in movie news like us, we know Tobey can't come back even if we wanted him to.

The reason why the GA wants him back so badly is because he was the first to be Spider-Man/PP on such a large scale.

Nicholas was the first to portray him, really, but Tobey had a greater impact because that was the first time Spider-Man was brought to the big screen.

It really seems like nostalgia and nothing more.
 
The reason why the GA wants him back so badly is because he was the first to be Spider-Man/PP on such a large scale.

Nicholas was the first to portray him, really, but Tobey had a greater impact because that was the first time Spider-Man was brought to the big screen.

It really seems like nostalgia and nothing more.

The bottom line is that they prefer Tobey over the other one and it makes perfect sense people want him back. Its obviously not gonna happen and people will understand that, especially 'cause he will be in the MCU.
 
Sometimes I wish the Raimi films would have went on just to see how people would have reacted to them today.

I have a difficult time believing they would have survived past the 2008 era. That year was the big game changer, when the genre finally found its feet, then 2012 expanded it to the biggest degree. That's not to say there weren't a lot of CBM's before that, but the entire phase from Blade till '08 felt more like the experimentation period. We were still trying to figure out what tone go for, how to maximize quality, to what extent we should stay accurate to the source, what costumes would/wouldn't work, etc.

Certain things Raimi did likely wouldn't have been acceptable past that year, and definitely not past 2012. Examples include a mute Spider-Man, Dunst's portrayal of MJ, and potentially organic webbing.

To compare and contrast, look at the X-Men franchise. It's practically the only franchise left from that era, and Singer had to undergo major changes to adapt to the current times. Including different tone/feel, different aesthetics, younger/newer actors, better balance and less focus on Wolverine, a more inappropriate-like Wolverine similar to the comics, and a new continuity along with an internal reboot.

Raimi's franchise would have either died out or would have adapted in a similar radical fashion.
 
The supposed pitch that marvel made to Sony sounds so good.

The civil war plot sounded amazing
 
Sometimes I wish the Raimi films would have went on just to see how people would have reacted to them today.

I have a difficult time believing they would have survived past the 2008 era. That year was the big game changer, when the genre finally found its feet, then 2012 expanded it to the biggest degree. That's not to say there weren't a lot of CBM's before that, but the entire phase from Blade till '08 felt more like the experimentation period. We were still trying to figure out what tone go for, how to maximize quality, to what extent we should stay accurate to the source, what costumes would/wouldn't work, etc.

Certain things Raimi did likely wouldn't have been acceptable past that year, and definitely not past 2012. Examples include a mute Spider-Man, Dunst's portrayal of MJ, and potentially organic webbing.

To compare and contrast, look at the X-Men franchise. It's practically the only franchise left from that era, and Singer had to undergo major changes to adapt to the current times. Including different tone/feel, different aesthetics, younger/newer actors, better balance and less focus on Wolverine, a more inappropriate-like Wolverine similar to the comics, and a new continuity along with an internal reboot.

Raimi's franchise would have either died out or would have adapted in a similar radical fashion.

Considering Raimi and Singer created the framework of what a superhero movie should be, this is the most desperate attempt at dimishing what they acomplished. The post 2008 superhero movies wouldn't exist as we know them if Raimi's Spiderman and Singer's X-men didn't exist.
 
In "Captain America: Civil War", Peter is 16 years old and is already Spider-Man. He's living with Aunt May and works at the Daily Bugle. He admires both Captain America, since they were both weak and bullied, and Iron Man, because of his wealth and scientific genius.

Steve sees a lot of himself in Peter, but thinks he's too reckless and needs training. Stark takes Peter as his protege, loves his quips, and even offers him money since Aunt May had to mortgage the house and Jameson is always screwing him out of money, but Peter refuses because he wants to make it on his own as Uncle Ben taught him.

Stark develops a suit for Peter, but Steve believes giving him technology rather than training is dangerous. Stark considers Peter the second fastest hero after Quicksilver, and the Spider-Sense makes him nearly uncatchable.

Peter also has a little crush on Black Widow and mentions another redhead he's into. She thinks it's cute, but kinda' creepy. The other Avengers don't really like Spider-Man because he's annoying and keeps on quipping.



Just spider-man's story arc though
 
Meh. I really hope there is no Iron Spider anywhere in Spidey's future.
Tony's already giving Hulk pants and Widow some tech.
Let Spidey stand on his own and do his thing. He doesn't need Stark.
 
It was posted to YouTube on February 1st, days before the deal was announced. Just something for us to talk about.
 
Hey Chip, I was just about to post that lol. I posted it in the Spidey thread in the Cap 3 section of anyone is interested. I think it's legit because the guys sources also told him the deal was done a day before the announcement and everything mentioned lines up with what we've heard so far going off the emails (Spider-Man meets Stark, Cap, Widow, and Hawkeye and Tony gives him a new suit). I also like it as an introduction to Spidey bexuae it contrasts him with the other two biggest heroes in the verse and shows how much potential he has a hero, almost like being a cross between the two of them.

Also I really hope they cast Dylan. He'd be pretty perfect.
 
A rumor obviously, but I like it
Yeah, the rumors are still gonna be crazy during all this waiting

Not sure how I feel about the Iron Spider already, but I like the rest of it. Peter's crush on Black Widow along with all of them being annoyed by him sounds like it could be pretty funny if they pull it off well too.
 
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