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Homecoming Marvel & Sony's Spider-Man (2017) General Discussion - - - Part 24

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What if Marvel and Sony would just announce an Actor so we can finally put this Miles Morales nonsense to rest.

You'd think. But I'm sure these rumours will persist, just like we hoped Marvel and Sony would announce the deal so that all the Sinister Six and Venom nonsense would be put to bed.
 
This arbitrary notion that Garfield and O'Brien are the same is heavily flawed. They are 2 very different actors, and don't even tackle the same roles, other than this Spiderman one potentially. And many of the issues with Garfield Spiderman was in the script, not the actor.

I'm not hating on Garfield at all, I really liked him in the role. But I do think the two are a similar TYPE - the lanky, brown-eyed studmuffin - and seeing a new guy with a new look and new take on the personality seems endlessly more appealing to me than what I think O'Brien could offer. That's all.
 
What if Peter is used for the films and Miles Morales gets a Tv series? I think that would be interesting.

I wouldn't waste a perfectly good live action Spider-Man TV show on Miles Morales. He shouldn't even be a contender for his own movie or TV show.
 
I'm not so sure we'll even see a casting announcement for Peter/Spidey closer to the start of Civil War starting to film. If the role isn't that large then it could be potentially longer if he's not actually cast yet and they're leaving it closer to when they actually need him.
 
Honestly, I really don't see Miles Morales appearing before Peter. Everybody knows that Spider-Man is Peter Parker and I'd be fine if they're going to introduce Miles, but they have to do that later into the series. They should build up Spider-Man as a symbol first before giving it all this sigficance--this is also the reason I am against Peter revealing his secret identity during Civil War. If there's no build-up, then it's just anti-climatic.

From a business stand point too, Marvel and Sony would want to do what brings them the most money, after all, they are still companies that want to make profit.
 
I'm not so sure we'll even see a casting announcement for Peter/Spidey closer to the start of Civil War starting to film. If the role isn't that large then it could be potentially longer if he's not actually cast yet and they're leaving it closer to when they actually need him.

NO, the casting is happening, right now!

We will hear something very soon, that's for sure.
 
Going to all this trouble to get Spider-Man into the MCU only to use Miles is like getting some star player for your team only to have him sit on the sidelines or feature as an occasional substitute.
 
He was not already cast in Iron Man 3. Yes he was in a previous MCU movie "Avengers", but he was not in Iron Man 3 with the exception of the after credit scene. RDJ sked Ruffalo at the Academy awards if he could do the After credit scene and Ruffalo was filming 10 days later. Found the article on Screen Rant, but can't post the link from my phone. I will make another post with it from my I -Pad in a little bit.

Surfer

This is a continuation & evidence of what I said.

“We were doing the Academy Awards and Robert [Downey Jr.] said, ‘Hey, what do you think about coming and doing a cameo In Iron Man?’ So he pitched the idea of the theme and I said, ‘I would love to do that.’ So, ten days later, I’m on a plane to L.A. and we’re shooting that scene. It was a lot of fun. It was written, but we improvised a little bit and Shane gave us some adjustments. I haven’t seen it yet, though. Robert thought it would be a good cap to all of the rest of the Iron Man story.”

http://screenrant.com/avengers-2-cameos-mark-ruffalo/

As for the filming of Iron Man 3 it began filming June 2012 and it was well into filming before the academy awards ceremony took place in February 2013.

So just saying while unlikely anything is still possible.

Surfer
 
He was not already cast in Iron Man 3. Yes he was in a previous MCU movie "Avengers", but he was not in Iron Man 3 with the exception of the after credit scene. RDJ sked Ruffalo at the Academy awards if he could do the After credit scene and Ruffalo was filming 10 days later. Found the article on Screen Rant, but can't post the link from my phone. I will make another post with it from my I -Pad in a little bit.

Surfer

:huh:

That's exactly what I said. That he was in the Avengers, which was made before Iron Man 3. And he was only in an after credit scene in Iron Man 3.

You said "Well I heard Mark Ruffolo was cast only right before filming his after credit scene".

I said that a) the only after credit scene he was in was Iron Man 3; and b) he wasn't cast only right before filming. If he were, then he would only have been cast as Banner in 2013, but how can that possibly be the case when he was already starring in that role in 2012 in the Avengers?
 
I was ecstatic when we got the news that Spider-Man was going to be part of the MCU and Kevin Feige & Co. were going to help make the solo films.

So why do all these rumors keeping popping up to dampen any excitement in the films. I have full faith that Marvel will deliver the definitive Peter Parker/Spider-Man. I have to stop listening to all this "stunt" casting (arbitrarily changing Peter's race, using Miles Moreles, killing off Pete in favor or Miles, etc).

I just wish they would announce a director and casting for Spider-Man to calm our fears.

Maybe Marvel is waiting to spring him on us in an after credit scene of Age of Ultron.
 
Surfer I'd say your scenario applies to AoU more, as in, we still might see Butterbeans/Logan/DYLAN/one of the aliens/talion as Peter Parker in an after credits sequence
 
NO, the casting is happening, right now!

We will hear something very soon, that's for sure.
Let's hope soon. These boards can't take much more half of the members have either lost interest, went insane, or ran out of things to speculate.
 
I was ecstatic when we got the news that Spider-Man was going to be part of the MCU and Kevin Feige & Co. were going to help make the solo films.

So why do all these rumors keeping popping up to dampen any excitement in the films. I have full faith that Marvel will deliver the definitive Peter Parker/Spider-Man. I have to stop listening to all this "stunt" casting (arbitrarily changing Peter's race, using Miles Moreles, killing off Pete in favor or Miles, etc).

I just wish they would announce a director and casting for Spider-Man to calm our fears.

Maybe Marvel is waiting to spring him on us in an after credit scene of Age of Ultron.


They're not all rumours. Some of it pure rampant speculation by only one poster that the sky is falling down and Peter is going to die in Civil War.
 
Yeah I never thought people could actually completely lose it on the spider boards, literally trying to rally against marvel for something they're not even doing, so odd
 
[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTvh3TZka5s[/YT]

LOL!

This is the first time I ever watched that video. Now I want him even MORE to play Spider-Man.
 
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I wouldn't waste a perfectly good live action Spider-Man TV show on Miles Morales. He shouldn't even be a contender for his own movie or TV show.

If Miles is done, he has to have his own film or tv show. He just has to. His story has to be told on its own, separate from Peter's.
 
I wouldn't waste a perfectly good live action Spider-Man TV show on Miles Morales. He shouldn't even be a contender for his own movie or TV show.
Yeah. If I wanted a non-Peter Parker Spider-Man movie or TV show then I would rather pick Ben Reilly or Miguel O'Hara. Miles is... ehhh. But I'm in no rush to see a Spider-Man that isn't Peter Parker. To be blunt, they will always be overshadowed by Peter considering he IS Spider-Man. Just as Bruce Wayne will always be Batman and Steve Rogers will always be Captain America.
 
Surfer I'd say your scenario applies to AoU more, as in, we still might see Butterbeans/Logan/DYLAN/one of the aliens/talion as Peter Parker in an after credits sequence

Well it applies to either really and it is more of just a general statement about fans expectations versus possible alternate scenarios that can occur.

Surfer
 
Miles Morales would be great in his own cartoon though.
 
NO, the casting is happening, right now!

We will hear something very soon, that's for sure.

Doesn't mean it will be finished before Civil War starts rolling. No need to get your knickers in a twist.
 
Miles Morales would be great in his own cartoon though.
Maybe. I still want a better Spider-Man cartoon with Peter Parker though. Heck, I think we should get an animated movie in theaters at some point. That would be cool.
 
:huh:

That's exactly what I said. That he was in the Avengers, which was made before Iron Man 3. And he was only in an after credit scene in Iron Man 3.

You said "Well I heard Mark Ruffolo was cast only right before filming his after credit scene".

I said that a) the only after credit scene he was in was Iron Man 3; and b) he wasn't cast only right before filming. If he were, then he would only have been cast as Banner in 2013, but how can that possibly be the case when he was already starring in that role in 2012 in the Avengers?

If I mis-read or misunderstood your previous comment, I apologize. However, what I felt you were saying is that Mark Ruffalo was cast already for Avengers and therefore it invalidated the need to cast him for Iron Man 3. And I was disagreeing saying that when RDJ offered the position to Ruffalo and he accepted, to me that was when he was cast for Iron Man 3 and that he then began filming 10 days later. However, while I responded to you it should have been directed more at Dony since he seems to be adamant we will hear something in the next 2 weeks and I was saying nothing is a given. Although, for all of our sakes I really hope he's right because I think with all of us, our patience has reached it's end.

Surfer
 
If I mis-read or misunderstood your previous comment, I apologize. However, what I felt you were saying is that Mark Ruffalo was cast already for Avengers and therefore it invalidated the need to cast him for Iron Man 3. And I was disagreeing saying that when RDJ offered the position to Ruffalo and he accepted, to me that was when he was cast for Iron Man 3 and that he then began filming 10 days later. However, while I responded to you it should have been directed more at Dony since he seems to be adamant we will hear something in the next 2 weeks and I was saying nothing is a given. Although, for all of our sakes I really hope he's right because I think with all of us, our patience has reached it's end.

Surfer

I think you're using the word "cast" in a slightly different sense, which is where the confusion arises.

When an actor is cast in a role, that is a one-time thing. Mark Ruffalo was only cast as Banner once, which was prior to the Avengers. In other words, there existed a time in 2010 (after Norton was removed) where no-one occupied that part, and Marvel had to search for a new actor. Once Marvel found him in the person of Ruffalo, he was offered the part and was cast in that role. Prior to that, Ruffalo too, existed in a state where, at one point, he didn't have the part, and then later on, from about July 2010, he did.

Now when it came to Iron Man 3, he simply reprised the role. He wasn't "cast" in the part. It's not like RDJ or Feige thought to themselves "Hmm, who should we have as Banner this time round? I know, how about Mark Ruffalo? Let's invite him to audition and see what he's like, but if not, we'll get another actor." Yes, he signed another contract to appear again as Banner, but he wasn't cast as Banner a second time - not in the sense that one normally means when they someone has been cast in a role.

Being cast in a role is a once-off event, unless you vacate the role and someone else takes your place, and then you come back later on, like Sean Connery did with Bond after leaving, and then being replaced by George Lazenby, and then coming back again in 1971.

So when you say "Well I heard Mark Ruffolo was cast only right before filming his after credit scene", that confuses people. Mark Ruffalo was cast only once, prior to the Avengers, back in 2010. He occupied that role from that point onwards, until he was told otherwise by Marvel or he chose to leave it himself. Since neither of those things happened, he still had the part. RDJ simply invited Ruffalo to reprise the role and make a cameo appearance in Iron Man 3 shortly before production began on that film.

And also, because you used the phrase "cast in the role" in conjunction with "after credit scene", I'm pretty sure people then started thinking that you meant Ruffalo was in another after credit scene prior to the Avengers, rather than the after credit scene in IM3, which everyone knows about, by which time he already had the part since 2010.
 
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Patience is virtue. We've only waited like 2 months. It's not really that long. We can wait longer. Was it like this before Andrew got announced?
 
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