Marvel vs. Capcom 3

[The Morningstar]

I would have liked an additional game mode of some sort, kinda like how Super Smash Bros Brawl had that Subspace Emissary thing. I still love MvC3 regardless though

Yea I do love the game. It is a hella lot of fun. But I see myself not playing it in a years time. Constantly repeating arcade mode and playing the odd game online will get really repetitive really fast.

No doubt Capcom will probably have DLC for the next couple of years though, to keep raking in the money.

 

[Sparta*]

Complaining about a lack of story in a fighting game!?!?

Wow....

why do people think a good story in a fighting game is such an absurd thing?! like really??? one of the most foolish comments I hear on this board honestly, story is extremely important, especially in a fighting game

 

[Tron Bonne]

why do people think a good story in a fighting game is such an absurd thing?! like really??? story is extremely important, especially in a fighting game

It's not absurd to want a good story in a fighting game, but traditionally, fighting games do not have much of a story, if any at all in many cases. It's just a question of expectations; it's really far from absurd to have that expectation.

And no, story isn't that important in a fighting game really, when all is said and done. It's cool if there is one, but the mechanics and all that stuff takes significant presidence over that, considering how that's the crux of how a fighting game lives and breaths, so to speak.

if mvc3 had half the features that MK9 has, I might still be playing it 6 months from now

And really, we should actually wait for that to come out before making these kinds of generalizations.

 

[Sparta*]

It's not absurd to and a good story in a fighting game, but traditionally, fighting games do not have much of a story, if any at all in many cases. It's just a question of expectations; it's really far from absurd to have that expectation.

And no, story isn't that important in a fighting game really, when all is said and done. It's cool if there is one, but the mechanics and all that stuff takes significant presidence over that, considering how that's the crux of how a fighting game lives and breaths, so to speak.



And really, we should actually wait for that to come out before making these kinds of generalizations.

its that mentality that makes it okay for capcom to put out a bare bones fighters like mvc3 with absolutley no gameplay modes or story or features and they know it will still sell cause fans like you dont expect anything more. MK is going the extra mile to include tag team mode arcade, challenge tower, fatality training, story mode, king of the hill, test your might,sight,strike,luck etc etc etc

and no i dont need to wait until release to make those generalizations because i've played the demo, and they've explained all the other modes thoroughly and i already know the appeal will last much much much longer then mvc3 because there is actually something to the new MK.

I love mvc3, but im sick of capcoms lack of gameplay modes, lack of any story, lack of content because they are saving it all for DLC even if its on the disk, and im sick of people never demanding more from their games, so capcom knows the sheep will buy their games even if they only include bare MINIMUM, just enough to pass it as sellable

 

[Tron Bonne]

its that mentality that makes it okay for capcom to put out a bare bones fighters like mvc3 with absolutley no gameplay modes or story or features and they know it will still sell cause fans like you dont expect anything more. MK is going the extra mile to include tag team mode arcade, challenge tower, fatality training, story mode, king of the hill etc etc etc

and no i dont need to wait until release to make those generalizations because i've played the demo, and they've explained all the other modes thoroughly and i already know the appeal will last much much much longer then mvc3

No, it's not what makes it okay; it's simply not being blind to it. Look at the SF franchise. The story in that is ****, pure ****. The only thing redeeming about them is the animated stuff, but even that stuff isn't great or anything. Yet, it's still the premier franchise in the genre.

Besides who was talking about game modes, anyway? That's not tied to story. Now you're just shifting what you're saying

 

[dodgers2213]

I rather have the MvC3 team use the majority of their time to develop the game engine fully, then waste resources on modes that I wouldn't use a day after release.
MvC3's game engine is so well developed, deep, complex, and fun that it alone makes me happy with the game. Any other modes aren't important to me.

 

[Sparta*]

No, it's not what makes it okay; it's simply not being blind to it. Look at the SF franchise. The story in that is ****, pure ****. The only thing redeeming about them is the animated stuff, but even that stuff isn't great or anything. Yet, it's still the premier franchise in the genre.

Besides who was talking about game modes, anyway? That's not tied to story. Now you're just shifting what you're saying

yes street fighter is the premiere fighting franchise, and i dont think that will change when mk comes out, street fighter will always be tops for gameplay. I guess capcom knows that, and for that reason they feel they dont need to include any kind of story or other modes. MVC3 on the other hand has much dumber and worse gameplay, yet they still feel its good enough for them to not have to include any other modes or story, cause again they know people think 'oh its capcom, they dont need a story or anything to go along with the fighting' and of course they wont surprise people, they'll include just the basic expectations. MK looks to be the whole package, gameplay, story and modes, I just dont see why other companies cant make a complete package, and if the 'under dog' fighter like mk can include all this stuff, I think capcom should step it up for their next game, and not just include the basics to save a $$

 

[Jick]

It is always good when there are more modes. Specially longer ones.
Makes it seems the money was more worth it.

Sometimes I think all the money I spent on this game wasn't necessary.

 

[dodgers2213]

MVC3 on the other hand has much dumber and worse gameplay

uh...no. Maybe to someone who doesn't understand the game at all

 

[Sparta*]

uh...no. Maybe to someone who doesn't understand the game at all

get off your high horse you game snob, you think you are so much better then everyone else at fighting games

mvc3 is not nearly as indepth as SSF4, any real player would agree, ask any tournament level player and if you dont agree, its clearly YOU that doesnt understand the game at all

 

[dodgers2213]

Defend your position rather than babbling nonsense. I don't remember you addressing what I said the last time you said how you "knew everything there is to know about MvC3".

SSF4 isn't the end all in fighting game depth either...its no 3rd Strike. I like the SF4 series but lets be real its not without flaws, and its not vastly superior to MvC3...How is MvC3 dumber? Sad there you can't mash reversal during strings? No crazy lenient buffer windows? No Ultras that reward you for losing, and are obviously better with certain characters vs the whole cast? Sad you can't lame it out with downback as much in MvC3?

I find MvC3 far more fun because of the fast action, and the reward for offense. In SSF4, its much better to play defensively, since offense can be way too risky due to the engines emphasis on defensive options. Sure, there are advanced traps, option selects (which I think are stupid to have the game pick for you, and wrecks certain characters) that you can use to make your offense more safe...but this happens in MvC3 too in terms of making your options safer with assists, DHCs, and the like. The games have a lot of the same elements, but on a different scale and somethings work more effectively in each game.
btw as a side note, a link heavy game doesn't make it a better game. Some characters have to live and die by 1 frame links. All that does is make the game unnecessarily tight in execution when other characters need no such tight strings to win matches.

SF4 vs MvC3 debate has raged on SRK for the last month, and its not cut and dry OH MY GAWD SF4 is WAAAYYYY DEEPER than MvC3 as your making it out to be.

 

[louiebling$]

Yea yesterday I kept getting man handled by a Wesker who just kept using the same combo over and over and I dare say it was almost an infinite...the day is coming...infinites are closer than we know...and when that day comes is the day I stop playing online because everyone and their mom with just be doing those

 

[Sparta*]

Defend your position rather than babbling nonsense. I don't remember you addressing what I said the last time you said how you "knew everything there is to know about MvC3".
SSF4 isn't the end all in fighting game depth either...its no 3rd Strike. I like the SF4 series but lets be real its not without flaws, and its not vastly superior to MvC3...How is MvC3 dumber? Sad there you can't mash reversal during strings? No crazy lenient buffer windows? No Ultras that reward you for losing, and are obviously better with certain characters vs the whole cast? Sad you can't lame it out with downback as much in MvC3?
btw as a side note, a link heavy game doesn't make it a better game. Some characters have to live and die by 1 frame links. All that does is make the game unnecessarily tight in execution when other characters need no such tight strings to win matches.

SF4 vs MvC3 debate has raged on SRK for the last month, and its not cut and dry OH MY GAWD SF4 is WAAAYYYY DEEPER than MvC3 as your making it out to be.

im definatley not as hardcore as you, I actually leave my house and dont play fighting games 24/7, seems that since you do I should just take your word as fact cause i definatley havent invested as much time into these games as you clearly have...so okay, mvc3 is a little more dumbed down then SF, not way more, you win

 

[dodgers2213]

im definatley not as hardcore as you, I actually leave my house and dont play fighting games 24/7, seems that since you do I should just take your word as fact cause i definatley havent invested as much time into these games as you clearly have...so okay, mvc3 is a little more dumbed down then SF, not way more, you win

I swear you are such a baby. Using the old "I have a life, you don't haarrr" crap that never fails when someone has nothing to say. And this comes from the guy almost 13,000 posts on a board for comic book heroes. C'mon man, I don't criticize what people do with their spare time time...its not an argument, and its barely an observation. When you post ignorance, do not act surprised if someone responds to you

 

[Brainiac 8]

why do people think a good story in a fighting game is such an absurd thing?! like really??? thats one of the most foolish comments I hear on this board and it drives me nuts, story is extremely important, especially in a fighting game, it makes all the difference between a deep experience that sucks you in, and one that doesnt

if mvc3 had half the features that MK9 has, I might still be playing it 6 months from now

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with a good story in a fighting game, just that it should be seen as a nice bonus rather than expected. I mean I love SSFIV and the story was absurd and silly...also didn't make a lick of sense.

MK9 may have a good story, and that is awesome for MK fans, but at least for myself, I don't expect it, as most fighting games tend to be "Fight people then fight boss...you win, YAY!!"

I wasn't trying to knock a fighting game having a story in the least.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Yea yesterday I kept getting man handled by a Wesker who just kept using the same combo over and over and I dare say it was almost an infinite...the day is coming...infinites are closer than we know...and when that day comes is the day I stop playing online because everyone and their mom with just be doing those

Yea, pretty much I only play player matches with friends...the ranked is stupid in my opinion. It'll always be full of broken moves and combos with players that always use Sentinel/Hulk/etc type teams.

But as a whole, even though I agree that it's pretty bare bones, and I do expect Capcom to come out with a second more fully featured version of the game (and that will suck for me) I am still enjoying the game a whole lot and don't regret my purchase in the least.

MK, even though I'm sure it'll be more fully featured, doesn't interest me at all, but that's just because I have never liked the MK games or it's (just as silly and nonsensical) story.

 

[Sparta*]

I swear you are such a baby. Using the old "I have a life, you don't haarrr" crap that never fails when someone has nothing to say. And this comes from the guy almost 13,000 posts on a board for comic book heroes. C'mon man, I don't criticize what people do with their spare time time...its not an argument, and its barely an observation. When you post ignorance, do not act surprised if someone responds to you

for the record, I have an awesome job and I can post a lot while at work, thats the only reason i have that many posts, and considering when i joined its not even that bad, I dont sit at home on my computer and post in my free time, i have better things to do then that, im just here to pass the time. Im not egging you on anymore and continuing this convo, we'll never see eye to eye on anything, you are a snob and a d-bag and im done talking to you you are now officially the first person to ever be on my ignore list, congrats, best part is i dont have to read your smug posts anymore

 

[dodgers2213]

If you gave sparta an enema you could fit him in a matchbox. I care very little of your fatuous insults, but they obviously make you feel better about yourself

-Congrats you're on my ignore list too. I'm feeling so empowered and awesome now

 

[Brainiac 8]

Sparta my friend, why for you not talk to me?

 

[Oscorp]

It is always good when there are more modes. Specially longer ones.
Makes it seems the money was more worth it.

Sometimes I think all the money I spent on this game wasn't necessary.

That's what I feel sometimes as well.

 

[Sparta*]

Sparta my friend, why for you not talk to me?

Hey Brainiac! we need to get some games in soon, its been a while

I must have misread your original post about stories in fighting games, I do agree its not 100% necessary, I just think its a really good feature that helps you understand and relate to the characters you are spending so much time playing as and trying to get good with.

I've loved many fighting games without any story, i love mvc3 and that has the worst story of all, I just think its important to know about the characters and their backstories to make it all the more rewarding to play as those characters

 

[GoldGoblin]

This game kinda is boring.Everytime I try and fight someone,they go to the far side of the screen and just shoot lasers and specials,no one fights with punches and kicks.Doesn't feel like a fighting game.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I do!

And yes, Sparta, we do need to play again...and I'm up for either SSFIV or MvC3, as I loves them both.

Also, about spamming projectiles...that is a problem with fighting games in general, not only MvC3. Heck, MvC/SF/MK all of these have their fair share of projectile vomiting.

 

[Havok83]

SSF4 isn't the end all in fighting game depth either...its no 3rd Strike.

No its better

 

[SuperFerret]

I like punching people as the Hulk.