Marvel's Black & Minority Characters: Roundtable Discussion

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'm more of a writing guy myself. I'd be willing to put up with bad art if the writing is excellent, of course exceptions apply.

I feel ya. And technically I guess writing ranks highest...but I find myself thumbing through books more lately, and putting them back on the shelf because they look...well, bad.

Unless you have Black Panther...where you have bad writing AND bad art direction. LOL (just messing with ya Anubis)

 

[Darthphere]

I feel ya. And technically I guess writing ranks highest...but I find myself thumbing through books more lately, and putting them back on the shelf because they look...well, bad.

Unless you have Black Panther...where you have bad writing AND bad art direction. LOL (just messing with ya Anubis)

Yeah, I've noticed that the art on BP has gotten progressively worse.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well hopefully the storyline will get better. Isn't Storm supposed to fight Clor in the next issue?

 

[Kitsune]

Well hopefully the storyline will get better. Isn't Storm supposed to fight Clor in the next issue?

I think so, I for one am hoping she wins. Someone needs to teach Tony and Reed a lesson.

 

[lowly marvelite]

How many comic book writers are black or other than white? Probably not many...Do you ever remeber Doug Williams (black-quarterbacked the Redskins over the Broncos in '88(?)) saying "I'm going to Disneyland?". Of course not. You will never see a black hero win a popularity contest in the comics community or see one portrayed as the most powerful? Did you see the movie crash? Black characters are too often written by white writers that believe black heros should be portrayed a certain way...more specifically, what is considered "black" is a matter of white perception...

 

[Darthphere]

How many comic book writers are black or other than white? Probably not many...Do you ever remeber Doug Williams (black-quarterbacked the Redskins over the Broncos in '88(?)) saying "I'm going to Disneyland?". Of course not. You will never see a black hero win a popularity contest in the comics community or see one portrayed as the most powerful? Did you see the movie crash? Black characters are too often written by white writers that believe black heros should be portrayed a certain way...more specifically, what is considered "black" is a matter of white perception...

And your point is?

 

[Anubis]

....right....

Well, at least you're talking about something other than Superman.

 

[Darthphere]

Well lets put things into perspective. How many hispanic comic book writers are there? How many hispanic characters are there? How many hispanic characters have name recognition?

 

[Eros]

Isn't Joe Q Hispanic?

 

[Darthphere]

Isn't Joe Q Hispanic?

Yeah, and....?

 

[Anubis]

How many Native American writers are there? How many Native American comic characters are there? How many Native American characters have name recogniton?

0
27
1 (2 if you're Canadian.)

 

[Darthphere]

How many Native American writers are there? How many Native American comic characters are there? How many Native American characters have name recogniton?

42
27
1 (2 if you're Canadian.)

How many Asian comic book writers are there? How many asian comic book characters are there? How many asian characters have name recognition?

 

[Anubis]

15
126
0

 

[Darthphere]

I find it funny though, there's a lot more ethnic variety when it comes to the art department.

 

[Eros]

Yeah, and....?

Hes the editor of a major comic book company, thats a big step IMO.

 

[Darthphere]

Hes the editor of a major comic book company, thats a big step IMO.

Your opinion is irrelevant. And when you get down to it, its only one dude. And the biggest contribution to hispanic comic book characters is Arana.

 

[Anubis]

I find it funny though, there's a lot more ethnic variety when it comes to the art department.

I know, you got Jim Lee, Frank Cho, the Luna Brothers, JRSR and JRJR, tons of em, and yet, as far as characters representing their various races, they haven't really created any. Go figure.

 

[Eros]

Your opinion is irrelevant. And when you get down to it, its only one dude. And the biggest contribution to hispanic comic book characters is Arana.

Arana? I feel bad for hispanic comic book readers, if Arana is your savior.

 

[Darthphere]

Arana? I feel bad for hispanic comic book readers, if Arana is your savior.

We have the new Blue Beetle too, lots of bug characters, and Kyle Rayner whenever someone remembers he's part hispanic.

 

[Anubis]

He's a quarter Jewish too.

 

[lowly marvelite]

My point is, while some of the black characters in the Marvel universe aren't bad (some, quite original), they will never take center stage like their white counterparts...

And your point is?

 

[lowly marvelite]

Oh, I thougt this particular thread was addressing Black Superhero in comics. Did I stray to the Asian thread?

How many Asian comic book writers are there? How many asian comic book characters are there? How many asian characters have name recognition?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

i think people are fine with races in comics now.... i don't like to think it's really an issue.. what the problem is, isnt accepting... its the fact that you can't have EVERY hero popular at the same time.. and certain heroes ... the main stream classic loves... are ALWAYS going to be popular... yes most are white... but thats because there very old characters... who have stood the test of time. it's just a matter of making the ones we have more prominant... Storm i'd have to say is indeed the most popular black super hero... hands down. theres no problem with her... people like luke cage, black panther, falcon, and goliath have risen... and i'm seeing them more in comics (mainly due to cross overs) i also love love love, Misty knight and the new hispanic super bad-girl hero... trantula shes awsome

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well lets put things into perspective. How many hispanic comic book writers are there? How many hispanic characters are there? How many hispanic characters have name recognition?

Two words: George Perez.

 

[terry78]

My issue is that anytime a non-white character is introduced, some immediately dismiss is as pandering or just an attempt to be p.c. Yes, that does happen, but I don't see any problem with creating characters that look like that black/asian/mexican kid that's into comics.