Marvel's Black & Minority Characters: Roundtable Discussion

[BLACKVULCAN]

Ok, I'm just going on the record as saying I do NOT want to see X as Bishop. I've seen pimp my ride once and that was enough for me. Maybe he was good in X-files, I'll wait for the DVD, but there are better actors.

..so what you are saying is that you don't want to see Bishop putting pinstripes down Cyclops ride? Right?
I am Bishop and you have been officially Mutated!

 

[moraldeficiency]

..so what you are saying is that you don't want to see Bishop putting pinstripes down Cyclops ride? Right?
I am Bishop and you have been officially Mutated!

Don't forget to put those plasma screens on the bottoms of his mudflaps, and please by all means completely neglect the engine that's about to die to spend more time on a fishtank for an air bag. God that show sucks.

Maybe he could do a good bishop but look at the power marvel has right now to get top tier talent in movies, and you're going to go with Xzibit as the solo force pulling a Bishop movie? They're slowly setting up terrence howard for a war machine stand alone and he's a hell of an actor, but you think they should just run with X for a character with an extremely confusing backstory and little general population recognition?

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

no. i agree i would much rather have a quality actor than one who just looks the part.Thats why i am not partial to alot of professional wrestlers or musicians getting these parts.There are always better actors out there and if one was chosen i wouldn't raise a fuss. Having seen X i know that he can do more than that show of his. I was really surprised by the job he did. Hollywood has a weird way of not getting the right people for the right role though. Case in Point Will-I-am as wraith in the upcoming Wolverine movie. He's one reason why i will wait for the DVD. I agree you should get the best man for the job.
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.... and hey yeah who needs a fishtank in their car I mean wouldn't those fish die?

 

[terry78]

Somewhat off-topic, but somebody showed me this commercial. That's a hell of a superpower.

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[Brainiac 8]

lulz to the extreme.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Some of you have a lot of prejudice when a signer turn's to actor. I'm not saying that Xzibit is the best actor around, but for the role of Bishop he sure can do it.

Hey I didn't notice this, thanks for calling me prejudiced and then assuming the cause. It couldn't be for any other reason than my hate for signer (I've always loved signers, they're better than singers or rappers). And certianly not because a standalone movie based on a fairly obsure and complicated character played by a man with almost zero acting experience and a joke of a TV show would probably doom any chances faster than Nick Cage in GR2.

Now allow me to randomly assign a character defect to you without any grounds and then assume a cause....Let's see.... You're prejudiced against gays because Nathan Lane raped your dog. This is kinda fun, like a mad libs.

 

[Kitsune]

Don't forget to put those plasma screens on the bottoms of his mudflaps, and please by all means completely neglect the engine that's about to die to spend more time on a fishtank for an air bag. God that show sucks.

I always wonder how long it's going to be before the large screen TVs in those pimped rides get stolen.

 

[moraldeficiency]

I always wonder how long it's going to be before the large screen TVs in those pimped rides get stolen.

I've gotta agree, 25 grand in stereo and AV equiptment in a car's worth maybe 300? Now I've only seen the show once so maybe it's changed, but they took this POS and basically gave a pretty body and some ridiculous **** to a car while disregarding the car's actual problems (engine, tranny). They go over that list of "car pimps" or whatever and I'm wonder do they actually have someone that knows something about cars on the show?

I'd take one hour of Chip Foose on my ride to a year of fishtank mods and disco ball rear view mirrors.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

ummm if i can just interrupt Autoshop 101 for just a min to just say that i dont think Bishop could carry a solo movie. I think he would work much better in a group setting like a X-men 4 flick. I think Master of Kung fu or War Machine would make a much better stand alone movie than bishop.

Now back to car pimps and water Hoses!

 

[Varient]

meh.

Just for a moment - Everyone give a short list of those Marvel characters they feel could do a standalone movie,.....

 

[Kitsune]

Hey,,, maybe we could have Tony Stark do "pimp my armor"

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Awesome

 

[roach]

played by a man with almost zero acting experience and a joke of a TV show would probably doom any chances faster than Nick Cage in GR2.

Why is Pimp my Ride X's showcase of acting ability???
There was another actor from a joke of a tv show with almost zero acting experience that made it big too.....Jim Carey, Jamie Foxx, Tom Hanks

 

[Manic]

I take a strong stance against singers and rappers being given significant roles in movies. There are actual black actors out there who are having a hard time finding their "big breaks" in Hollywood because roles they could do are being given to Ice Cube, LL, DMX, Snoop Dogg (granted, he does comedy well), TI, Xzibit, OutKast, Redman, Method Man, and so help me if someone writes another movie specifically for 50 Cent.

Mos Def is cool, though. But then he's more of a child actor turned rapper turned actor.

 

[roach]

I take a strong stance against singers and rappers being given significant roles in movies. There are actual black actors out there who are having a hard time finding their "big breaks" in Hollywood because roles they could do are being given to Ice Cube, LL, DMX, Snoop Dogg (granted, he does comedy well), TI, Xzibit, OutKast, Redman, Method Man, and so help me if someone writes another movie specifically for 50 Cent.

Mos Def is cool, though. But then he's more of a child actor turned rapper turned actor.

The same could be said for any group of people. If a rapper wants to act I say let them. It worked for Will Smith

 

[Colossal Spoons]

and I think LL is a pretty decent actor

 

[Manic]

I'm all for them being given supporting roles in movies, and even their own TV shows (worked for Will Smith, LL Cool J, and Queen Latifah), but I don't like them being given major roles in movies when there are tons of actual actors with more experience than them.

 

[roach]

I'm all for them being given supporting roles in movies, and even their own TV shows (worked for Will Smith, LL Cool J, and Queen Latifah), but I don't like them being given major roles in movies when there are tons of actual actors with more experience than them.

you are right Rappers shouldnt act, comedians should only do comedies, serious actors should only do dramas, british actors should only be in british films....
....dont forget Mark Wahlberg too...get back to rapping you

 

[terry78]

I take a strong stance against singers and rappers being given significant roles in movies. There are actual black actors out there who are having a hard time finding their "big breaks" in Hollywood because roles they could do are being given to Ice Cube, LL, DMX, Snoop Dogg (granted, he does comedy well), TI, Xzibit, OutKast, Redman, Method Man, and so help me if someone writes another movie specifically for 50 Cent.

Mos Def is cool, though. But then he's more of a child actor turned rapper turned actor.

That could be any music act, though. How many singers have come become decent actors?

 

[roach]

That could be any music act, though. How many singers have come become decent actors?

Will Smith
Ice Cube(go back and watch boyz in the hood)
Mos Def

 

[Manic]

you are right Rappers shouldnt act, comedians should only do comedies, serious actors should only do dramas, british actors should only be in british films....
....dont forget Mark Wahlberg too...get back to rapping you

Like anyone ever considered Mark Wahlberg a rapper...


Allow me to elaborate. Don't give rappers big starring roles in movies right out of the gate. It demeans acting as a profession, and robs actual actors of their chances to get significant roles. However, it's okay for rappers to be given small roles in movies until they prove they can portray an emotion not seen in one of their music videos.

Taking the comparisons into account, let's talk about dramatic actors vs. comedians. Comedy is hard. Very hard. Not every actors can do comedy, despite how well they might do in other roles. I still don't like Robert DeNiro in the "Meet The _____" movies. I've found that most actors who can pull off a comedic role perfectly are going to nail drama (it's a timing thing, I think), but very few great dramatic actors can do comedy.

And one can argue that there's very little reason for British actors to play American characters and vise-versa. I love Clive Owen, but I've never bought him as an American.

That could be any music act, though. How many singers have come become decent actors?

Plenty, but there are still tons who turned out to be terrible.



You don't give musical performers starring roles in movies for their first acting jobs. If they had a past in musical theatre or something, fine. If they haven't acted before in their lives, for god's sake, don't make them play the main character. And if their acting skills are questionable, stop giving them more starring roles to screw up. Tyrese.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'd rather give 50 the role for Luke Cage than Tyrese.......though I feel its to late for that cuase Singleton seems to love dude for some reason. If I had to choose a rapper for the role, I'd choose LL or Wil Smith.

 

[tamron]

Everyone give a short list of those Marvel characters they feel could do a standalone movie,.....

To me, that would be a long list. It's all about how the property is approached and prepared for the screen. Few would've thought Blade could generate a successful film series, but he did. Similar diamonds in the rough exist throughout Marvel, in addition to the bevy of established characters.

i dont think Bishop could carry a solo movie. I think he would work much better in a group setting like a X-men 4 flick.

I think a District X-type movie with Bishop as the lead could definitely work. But I agree that Bishop would fit best in an X-Men film.

Henry Simmons is the best choice out there for Luke Cage, IMHO. He's got the look, the size (He's 6'4", Cage is 6'6",) and he's a good actor.

 

[ANTOINE X]

Hey I didn't notice this, thanks for calling me prejudiced and then assuming the cause. It couldn't be for any other reason than my hate for signer (I've always loved signers, they're better than singers or rappers). And certianly not because a standalone movie based on a fairly obsure and complicated character played by a man with almost zero acting experience and a joke of a TV show would probably doom any chances faster than Nick Cage in GR2.

Now allow me to randomly assign a character defect to you without any grounds and then assume a cause....Let's see.... You're prejudiced against gays because Nathan Lane raped your dog. This is kinda fun, like a mad libs.

How can you take Pimp my ride as a reference? It s not even a movie! The guys is just doing a show about cars where it doesn't require acting skills

Go check x-file 2 & Gridiron Gang and then will talk

 

[ANTOINE X]

I take a strong stance against singers and rappers being given significant roles in movies. There are actual black actors out there who are having a hard time finding their "big breaks" in Hollywood because roles they could do are being given to Ice Cube, LL, DMX, Snoop Dogg (granted, he does comedy well), TI, Xzibit, OutKast, Redman, Method Man, and so help me if someone writes another movie specifically for 50 Cent.

Mos Def is cool, though. But then he's more of a child actor turned rapper turned actor.

You can't put everybody in the same basket. Some signer definitely needs acting skills but others are doing very well: Will Smith, Common,Wallberg, Xzibit, 50 cent (is so so), LL COOL J (is ok), Mos def, even Eminem did well. Beside they all sign and make videos so they did have some practice t:.