Daredevil Marvels Daredevil Season 2 Thread(Spoilers for Season 1.)

[cryptic name]

The Death of Elektra seems like an obvious arc for season 2, but maybe that would be a reason for them not to do it. Regardless, Bullseye would be amazing to see as a primary antagonist in the season. I of course want to see what's next for Fisk and Vanessa, and I'd like to see Typoid Mary show up.

 

[Six]

I'd also like to see some Fisk and Rigoletto flashbacks.

 

[Picard Stewart]

Sorry haven't read the comics. Have read a little about the Chaste and the Hand on wiki. But why would they attack New York? Also if Stone is Sticks second in command why was he kneeling before him. I know it's a reference to the scene in the comic but would make more sense if they were both sitting. Thanks for your help by the way.

The Hand is like the League of Shadows in the Batman films, they're powerful enough to bring about a shift in the world's current state. There's also the supernatural element to the whole thing in bringing about "The Beast" which is a demon they worship that like the anti-Christ at some point will take a human form they'll groom into power.

DD can't handle them alone so their involvement warrants a team up.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I can't really guess what Season 2 will be about until I know what Defenders covers. The Hand seem like a good choice, particularly to have Elektra in it, but I could also see Bullseye. Ideally, I'd love to have a Good Guys Wear Red, Bad Guys Wear Blue contrast with Bullseye, Elektra, and the Punisher all involved with different styles. Punisher kills because he thinks all criminals deserve it, Elektra kills because her past has caused her to lose respect for the law so she goes for self-interest and profit (but her soft spot will get her to change her ways), and Bullseye kills just because he can (but doesn't mind making money if someone's offering).

All that doesn't fit in with the Hand, though.

I'd also love a Mr. Fear season, but I'll wait a bit on that.

 

[The Overlord]

Well after viewing the fantastic 1st season of DD, arguably the best 1st season for any show I've seen, I am greatly anticipating a season 2. With all the easter eggs, and small references made thoughout the season what do people expect/hope to see in season 2? I think season 2 will introduce costumed villains and we'll be seeing, in addition to others I'm sure, Potts as Gladiator with the saws, Stilt-Man, return of Kingpin with his white suit, Bullseye, and Elektra and the Hand.

Would Stilt-Man fit in with this show though? Stilt-Man really hasn't fit in with Daredevil comics since the 80s. There is no point in spending a ton of money on the CGI needed for Stilt-Man, if the character doesn't fit the tone of the show. Maybe Wilbur Day could be a criminal who provides tech (considering he was originally an engineer), but the Stilt-Man armor wouldn't fit the show.

I also don't see why Melvin would become the Gladiator at this point, he didn't want to work for Fisk and has no reason to now that Betsy is safe. It seems like Melvin becoming Gladiator would be a step backwards for him at this point.

We actually have no idea what Owlsley Jr. is like or if he is even a criminal, though I suppose they wouldn't have mentioned him so much if he didn't have a role to play in the future. Though given the tone of his show, he may not fly or have any of the powers the comic book version did.

I think we have to consider characters who can fit into a larger story, rather then trying to shoe horn them in and try to make the second season a typical "freak of the week" type show.

I assume the second season will deal with a gang war to replace Fisk, since every major criminal organization has been downgraded or dismantled by the end of season 1. Though Fisk may try to run his empire from his cell. I wonder what other crime bosses will appear in season 2.

 

[Picard Stewart]

I'd make Bullseye the main villain of Season 2. Keep Kingpin around, but make him like Maroni in TDK - just in a larger role. He unleashes Bullseye to the city by hiring him to kill Matt. End the second season with Matt making the full measure to kill him.

 

[The Overlord]

I'd make Bullseye the main villain of Season 2. Keep Kingpin around, but make him like Maroni in TDK - just in a larger role. He unleashes Bullseye to the city by hiring him to kill Matt. End the second season with Matt making the full measure to kill him.

The problem with Bullseye is he generally more of a hired gun then a Big Bad in his own right, it seems like he would work for the main villain rather be the main villain. Bullseye has no interest in controlling crime like Fisk does, he just go around taking assassination contracts for others or murdering random people.

 

[Picard Stewart]

The problem with Bullseye is he generally more of a hired gun then a Big Bad in his own right, it seems like he would work for the main villain rather be the main villain. Bullseye has no interest in controlling crime like Fisk does, he just go around taking assassination contracts for others or murdering random people.

You make it personal. He misses his mark so he goes after the next best thing - friends and family. Think Joker in TDK.

 

[The Overlord]

You make it personal. He misses his mark so he goes after the next best thing - friends and family. Think Joker in TDK.

But the thing is Bullseye is generally not as smart as Kingpin or Joker, that is why he is more of a hired gun then anything else. Plus he usually doesn't miss his target, though I can imagine he would murder a target's family for fun. Also Bullseye can't really threaten Daredevil's love ones, if he doesn't know who he is.

 

[Picard Stewart]

But the thing is Bullseye is generally not as smart as Kingpin or Joker, that is why he is more of a hired gun then anything else. Plus he usually doesn't miss his target, though I can imagine he would murder a target's family for fun. Also Bullseye can't really threaten Daredevil's love ones, if he doesn't know who he is.

Like Joker in TDK, have him become obsessed with DD having failed to kill him. He starts watching the people known to interact with him. He lets DD to the legwork in seeing what he'll do if one of them is in danger. "For a moment there I really thought you were Dent. The way you threw yourself after her..."

He doesn't have to figure out Matt is DD. He just has to get close enough to hurt him by hurting someone he's allowed his DD persona to compromise. Then have Matt hunt him down and fight him in the rooftops of Hell's Kitchen until only one man remains standing.

 

[The Overlord]

Like Joker in TDK, have him become obsessed with DD having failed to kill him. He starts watching the people known to interact with him. He lets DD to the legwork in seeing what he'll do if one of them is in danger. "For a moment there I really thought you were Dent. The way you threw yourself after her..."

He doesn't have to figure out Matt is DD. He just has to get close enough to hurt him by hurting someone he's allowed his DD persona to compromise. Then have Matt hunt him down and fight him in the rooftops of Hell's Kitchen until only one man remains standing.

Someone would still have to hire Bullseye in the first place, Bullseye is not quite the active nihilist that Joker is. So why wouldn't that guy who hired Bullseye be the main villain?

If what makes sense is Kingpin hiring Bullseye from prison to kill DD and Bullseye constantly slipping the leash Kingpin is trying to put him on and taking more extreme measures. It shows Fisk crossing a big moral line by hiring that psycho and he truly has lost all pretenses of morality.

And that assumes the main story in season 2 isn't some gigantic gang war with various crime lords trying to replace Kingpin. Can you have a giant gang war story and Bullseye's personal crusade against DD in the same season?

 

[Picard Stewart]

what makes sense is Kingpin hiring Bullseye from prison to kill DD and Bullseye constantly slipping the leash Kingpin is trying to put him on and taking more extreme measures. It shows Fisk crossing a big moral line by hiring that psycho and he truly has lost all pretenses of morality.

That's what I was saying, have Kingpin release him onto the city not knowing he's unleashed a force of nature only the very man he hired him to kill can stop.

I can see a scene like the one between Maroni and Gordon where Fisk tells DD "Enough is enough. I want him stopped just as much as you."

 

[grace_Lim]

More courtroom scenes and flashbacks please!

 

[The Overlord]

That's what I was saying, have Kingpin release him onto the city not knowing he's unleashed a force of nature only the very man he hired him to kill can stop.

I can see a scene like the one between Maroni and Gordon where Fisk tells DD "Enough is enough. I want him stopped just as much as you."

But the big difference is Joker is smarter then Bullseye, so Joker could pull off more complex schemes then Bullseye generally did, I doubt Bullseye would have tried something like Joker's social experiment at the end of the Dark Knight or doing something similar to what Joker did to Dent, generally Bullseye doesn't seem like much of a planner.

That's why I am a bit wary about Bullseye being the main villain of a season, generally he is a not a mastermind type. Maybe he can use a giant gang war to replace Fisk as an excuse to cause murder and mayhem, tying two different plot threads together.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

WTF is up with Madame Gao!?

 

[Picard Stewart]

WTF is up with Madame Gao!?

She's clearly from

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K'un L'un.

. How she ties into

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Iron Fist

will be an interesting reveal. Perhaps she works for

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Master Khan

.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Just read up on that. Missed the significance of the symbol.

 

[Picard Stewart]

"My interest here has never been about heroin, Leland."

She was clearly in NYC to recon for someone back home.

 

[Picard Stewart]

Just read up on that. Missed the significance of the symbol.

As did I! I figured where she was from based on her comments about her home being a considerable distance further from China and her martial arts prowess.

I guess its clear now that she's working for

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The Steel Serpent

.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

As did I! I figured where she was from based on her comments about her home being a considerable distance further from China and her martial arts prowess.

I guess its clear now that she's working for

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The Steel Serpent

.

Just a friendly heads up, you don't need to use spoiler tags in a thread that warns of spoilers inside

 

[BatsDC]

I reckon we'll meet both Elektra and Bullseye, see Kingpin broken out of jail, and see the Hand introduced. Maybe kill Vanessa at the end of the season.

 

[BlackFox]

A fight scene like at the end of episode 2 with DD V The Hand.

Me =

 

[Mike Murdock]

But the big difference is Joker is smarter then Bullseye, so Joker could pull off more complex schemes then Bullseye generally did, I doubt Bullseye would have tried something like Joker's social experiment at the end of the Dark Knight or doing something similar to what Joker did to Dent, generally Bullseye doesn't seem like much of a planner.

That's why I am a bit wary about Bullseye being the main villain of a season, generally he is a not a mastermind type. Maybe he can use a giant gang war to replace Fisk as an excuse to cause murder and mayhem, tying two different plot threads together.

Frankly, I'd find a comics accurate Bullseye to be one of the most terrifying things on television. But I agree he shouldn't be an independent actor. The most logical thing would be for him to be hired by people. But everything else is difficult to figure out. All my ideas buzzing around involve too many independent actors. This season did a great job of having one central villain that directed everything. I don't want to lose that.

 

[antonydelfini]

Bullseye and Elektra for Season 2 please!

 

[Sterling Archer]

If they need a reporter character for season 2 they could always go with Ned Leeds now that they can use the Bugle and it's characters.