Marvel's Runaways coming to Hulu

[SirStrangefolk]

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She looks a bit young, and I think she is of Chinese descent, not Japanese. So a bit of a weird choice. I feel like they might recast for the show, which is a shame too since that would cause more people to see it as evidence the tv shows and movies are divided. But hey, at least they'll probably have a good Staff of One prop lying around now.

 

[Zarex]

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It might be a good idea to set the Runaways show set in the MCU future, anyway. The "real time" in-continuity placement of AOS didn't due it any favors, and the only possible crossover possibility with Runaways would be Freeform's Cloak and Dagger.

 

[MbJ]

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She looks a bit young, and I think she is of Chinese descent, not Japanese.

I don't mean this to sound sarcastic but that his literally never stopped Hollywood before. John Cho plays a Japanese character in the Star Trek movies and they had two Chinese women playing the leads in Memoirs of a Geisha. It's actually extremely common.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

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It might be a good idea to set the Runaways show set in the MCU future, anyway. The "real time" in-continuity placement of AOS didn't due it any favors, and the only possible crossover possibility with Runaways would be Freeform's Cloak and Dagger.

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I guess we also don't know when she appears. If she only appears when Strange first arrives at Kamar-Taj she might've gotten older during his "Practice. Years of it."

I don't mean this to sound sarcastic but that his literally never stopped Hollywood before. John Cho plays a Japanese character in the Star Trek movies and they had two Chinese women playing the leads in Memoirs of a Geisha. It's actually extremely common.

That it's common place doesn't mean that it makes sense.

 

[MbJ]

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That it's common place doesn't mean that it makes sense.

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The only way it doesn't make sense is if it's a specific plot requirement that she speak perfect, unaccented Japanese.

 

[Chris B]

It surprises me that Marvel opted to do a TV series over a film for this. Along with the Inhumans, the Runaways seemed like one of the likelier properties Marvel would develop for Phase IV.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I'm 100% onboard for this as a series.

Marvel blew it win the Inhumans by introducing uninteresting characters on AoS before the royal family was introduced in movies. The Inhumans brand has been devalued before it even gets to kickoff.

 

[MbJ]

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[HunBoy]

@Marvel's #Runaways pilot for @hulu will start shooting this february in Los Angeles. The story of six diverse teenagers who need to reunite

 

[Mike Murdock]

So they've cast people?

 

[MbJ]

Not sure. The Cloak and Dagger pilot is also shooting in February but the site says nobody's been cast yet.

 

[metaphysician]

I remain morbidly curious about Cloak & Dagger, given the abundance of unfortunate aspects to the franchise. Doubly so since they are exactly the aspects that "teen supernatural drama" would lean into.

Runaways, meanwhile, as long as Old Lace is good, I am good.

 

[Rorschach2012]

It's my dream to see the tv side interact with the feature side. If that never happens, it'll be very disappointing.

 

[UltimatePyro9]

Yeah, I wish they give us some information. At least who the cast are. Just to get an idea.

 

[Yowza]

I think the TV side has already interacted with the movies quite a bit while maintaining their own tone and separate/distinctiveness to not be dictated by them. The movies of course haven't directly referenced any of the TV shows and this is of course disappointing but the movies have so much they gotta address within their own structure (not to mention the rift between Marvel TV and film) I can see why this hasn't been reciprocated YET.

I think it's definitely going to happen at some point. The TV shows have to be a success and not be cancelled abruptly on a cliffhanger but so far I think if one chose to read into it, Peggy's funeral in Civil War with British flag over her coffin could in fact reference a future storyline that never took place with her and her brother; coming to terms with her own past while of course being a super-patriotic American.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

So, given that these shows are filming around the same time, the similarity in tone and certain themes and the precedent in the comics, what are the chances of an eventual crossover?

 

[MbJ]

So, given that these shows are filming around the same time, the similarity in tone and certain themes and the precedent in the comics, what are the chances of an eventual crossover?

If they're on different networks/platorms? Not very.

 

[Yowza]

I think a little easter egg or nod time to time could happen but actual crossover probably unlikely between TV properties on different platforms.

With that being said, I think Netflix is inundated at the moment and having a platform on Hulu could potentially allow more properties to develop in the first place as opposed to waiting another 10 years... If anything, maybe an Agent Carter 1 shot or whatever could potentially be picked up by Hulu... ABC/Freeform will probably be pretty selective when it comes to continuing certain series so Hulu could be a backup platform of sorts. Not to mention alternate platforms make new things easier to budget for without interfering with budgets allocated to other shows as much.

 

[mace1]

I keep the info comments before overtime when ever i see someone says the shows and movies are not in same universe or they should do it like dc.
Of course i disagree.
I think what the mcu is doing is fine and what dc is doing is fine for dc,but i prefer the marvel way more then dc.

Crossover Between the Marvel TV Shows and Films Is “Inevitable”
Marvel Cinematic Universe movies will reference the TV shows... eventually

Daredevil and Jessica Jones could one day become new Avengers.
Maybe.Marvel Studios top dog Kevin Feige has given the biggest
indication yet that its various TV series will be referenced in the
movies. Eventually.Despite some very important plot developments going
on in Marvel's Agents of SHIELD (Inhumans and the like), the ABC
series has been neglected by the Marvel Cinematic Universe so far, but
this could change soon.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-av...ovies-will-reference-the-tv-shows-eventually/
Marvel Movies Referencing TV Shows ‘Inevitable’ Says Kevin Feige

Spoiler

S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Phil Coulson is still alive in the Marvel Cinematic
Universe after his seemingly untimely demise in 2012’s The Avengers
and the secretive organization that he now runs still operates after
the crushing events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Coulson’s
team assists The Avengers; meanwhile, Inhumans are surfacing across
the globe with superpowers and more and more vigilante superheroes are
emerging in Hell’s Kitchen, New York.
All of these important events are happening but none of them are being
addressed in the connected Marvel Studios movies – at least not yet.
It was one of the more notable issues with Avengers: Age of Ultron and
certainly a point of contention for its writer and director Joss
Whedon who was very vocal about some of the obstacles he faced in
developing the Avengers sequel and the MCU’s first television program,
in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..
Speaking at an event last night to celebrate the in-home release of
Avengers: Age of Ultron, Kevin Feige – now the top boss at Marvel
Studios – admitted that the TV shows will have an increased role and
will be referenced more in the movies down the road.
“I think that’s inevitable at some point as we’re plotting the
movies going forward and they’re doing the shows.”
With Phase 3 Marvel Studios has had a clear plan from the beginning,
one that was flexible based on whether or not they could gain the
rights to certain characters (i.e. Spider-Man). They know the
production schedule and release slate from now until summer 2019 and
with that in mind they can plan ahead in deciding which Marvel TV
properties they desire to pull over.
To date, it’s been a challenge to take advantage of the TV stuff
partly due to the scheduling of these productions. TV episodes are
made relatively quickly and can react to the larger events of the
films, which in turn must enter development far before they release in
theaters. As Feige put it:
“It’s easier for them. They’re more nimble and faster and produce
things quicker than we do, which is one of the main reasons you see
the repercussions of Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron in the show.
Going forward and certainly as they begin to do more shows and cast
them with such great actors as they have — particularly Daredevil —
that that may occur. A lot of it is by the time we start doing a
movie, they’d be midway through a season; by the time it comes out
they’d be done with the second, starting the third season. Finding
timing on that is not always easy.”
We interviewed Kevin Feige while he was promoting the theatrical
release of Avengers: Age of Ultron back in April, the same week
Daredevil released on Netflix. At the time, he said there had been
discussions with the TV division and its head Jeph Loeb and that the
plan would be to establish these TV show characters and their origins
first – and then find out where they could make appearances in the
films.
Before that, when unveiling the Phase 3 schedule at a fan and media
event in October 2014, Feige spoke during a Q&A briefly about the
Netflix shows and said there are opportunities for crossovers – but
reiterated that his own interests and focus is strictly on the films.
That’s been an ongoing issue we’ve reported on since the beginning of
ABC’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. since we know the film creatives pretty
much ignore its existence. Joss Whedon, who created it and helemd
Avengers 1 and 2, even said Marvel didn’t want him to do the show and
we know from our own chats with the writers, producers and directors
of Ant-Man, Captain America 2 & 3, Thor 2, etc. that they don’t even
watch the series.
Knowing that, the TV characters and stories aren’t – or at least,
haven’t been to date – in their minds when planning ahead, but things
are beginning to change thanks to the critical success of Daredevil.
We can argue that Marvel TV was better than the Phase 2 films. With
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’s season 3 premiere earning much praise last
night, and continuing to improve in quality and in its relevance in
the MCU, there’s still a chance some of these characters would one day
make an appearance in the movies even if it’s a minimal cameo.
We wouldn’t be surprised that like the comics, some of the TV
characters eventually serve as Avengers. Netflix’s Defenders
characters (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist) all
fit the bill and even on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. we’re seeing potential
Avengers in Quake (Chloe Bennet), Mockingbird (Adrianne Palicki) and
Deathlok (J. August Richards). And it doesn’t just apply to the
heroes. When asked if someone like Kingpin (Vincent D’Onforio) could
make for a good Spider-Man movie villain, Feige responded with “That
would probably be the cool thing to do.”
Are you hoping to see more crossover between the films and TV shows?
What Marvel TV characters deserve movie appearances?

or
Kevin Feige Says a Crossover Between the Marvel TV Shows and Films Is
“Inevitable”
http://collider.com/marvel-tv-show-crossovers-with-movies-inevitable-kevin-feige/

 

[mace1]

Some of the comments i have collected overtime here and other forums etc..

by Eddie

I did a full MCU film binge before Civil War, and the last two Phase 2 films actually have subtle AoS connections that apparently went over everyone's heads. Nick Fury got the Helicarrier from "old friends". He's referring to Coulson. Not only do we see that in AoS, Coulson's also the only common friend of Fury and the Avengers that could have possibly hooked him up with one. Ant-Man also reveals to the film audience that Hydra is still around despite being"finished" in Ultron... except AoS viewers were already in on that thanks to the S2 finale. They're small connection, but they do exist (Fury's dialogue in particular really couldn't have been referring to anyone else).

by belltown213-0-557076

There was even a little Agent Carter Easter egg shout out to the character Dottie Underwood in Civil War when Bucky told Cap he used to date a red head named Dot back in the 50's.
Infinity War will probably feature a bunch of MCU TV character similar to how the X-Men series just spotlights the main mutants while the rest are there as wall paper to fill out a scene.

For the record, most of the issues concerning the TV side of the MCU is mainly with the characters (be it Quake, Coulson, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Misty Knight, Punisher, & now Ghost Rider) crossing over into the movies (Ex: Infinity War), not if the TV/Netflix stuff is actually canon or not. Feige himself said that having the TV characters at some point is inevitable, & it's not like anything in the movies directly contradicts what's on the TV/Netflix shows (or vice versa). Both the TV/Netflix shows & the movies are still in Earth-19999, it's just that Perlmutter is supposedly holding back the characters from being able to cross over into the ensemble films. Hopefully they can work this out by the time the Inhumans movie drops (likely 2021, judging by Feige's recent comments at Comic Con), so they can at least make a slight nod to the Inhumans outside of Attilan.

by Josh Harper

What does Ashley mean when she says "There's no connection between the movie and tv universes"? They are still in the same universe, and even if the references are small they would still make no sense at all if they weren't in the same universe, also Leob and Feige have both acknowledged the films, ABC shows and Netflix shows are all in the MCU (I'm certain of this because I was searching for quotes on the subject recently). Unless she means creatively they are seperate, then yeah, that's completely true.

Note-
Ashley shows up on collider heroes sometimes.


byJosh Harper

"If you ignore Agents of SHIELD" that's like saying if I ignore the fact that I have a heart then I'm actually dead. Ignoring something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You're right that Agents of SHIELD has much bigger references to the MCU and is very clearly linked with the multiple cameos and guest appearances from movie characters (Lady Sif, Maria Hill, Nick Fury, even Coulson himself), but the Netflix shows do clearly have links, albeit much smaller ones, but we do literally see Stark tower in a picture, The Hulk in a picture, a Levitation in a picture, Hammer Tech weapons, name drops of Stark and Captain America, etc. Whilst they are small, yes, they are still showing us quite clearly that it's the same universe. Leob has confirmed it many times and Feige has said "We want to incorporate the show characters into the movies" meaning even he deems them canon to the MCU.

Cedric House

you don't need to cross in order to know it's in the same world they freaking name drop Tony stark in luke cage

 

[mace1]

These are the recent views from marvel about the crossovers for shows and movies.
Why Marvel Doesn't Want Netflix Superheroes in the MCU Yet

http://movieweb.com/marvel-doesnt-want-netflix-superheroes-mcu-kevin-feige/

Note-by the way,the netflix shows are in mcu.

 

[mace1]

To tell you the truth, if the Characters from the mcu shows make appearances in the mcu movies that's fine,and if they don't? That's fine as well as far as i am concern.
None of the original new characters that first appeared in star trek deep space nine made appearances in the movies for example and i was fine with it.

Here is a more updated view about the mcu shows and mcu movies by the way.

Why Marvel TV Characters Are Unlikely to Appear in Marvel Films [TCA 2016]

Jeph Loeb, president of Marvel Television, was on a Netflix panel for Luke Cage before the Television Critics Association. Loeb is in charge of all live-action and animated Marvel shows, including the Netflix titles and ABC’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter. When asked if we could see any of the television characters, be it Luke Cage or Daredevil, in any of the Marvel movies, Loeb explained why it would be prohibitive to the television schedules.

“I can tell you that part of the challenge of doing this sort of thing is that the movies are planned out years in advance of what it is that we are doing,” Loeb said. “Television moves at an incredible speed. The other part of the problem is that when you stop and think about it, if I’m shooting a television series and that’s going to go on over a six-month or eight-month period, how am I going to get Mike [Colter] to be able to go be in a movie? I need Mike to be in a television show.”

Loeb did not completely rule out a crossover, and some of the film characters like Nick Fury, Siff and Maria Hill have appeared on television. “Anything is possible,” Loeb continued. “As I often get reported by you folks for saying #ItsAllConnected, our feeling is that the connection isn’t just whether or not somebody is walking into a movie or walking out of a television show. It’s connected in the way that the shows come from the same place, that they are real, that they are grounded.”

A crossover also has to mean something. If they only show up for a joke, it defeats the purpose of connecting the worlds. “We have seen some characters that have appeared and crossed over,” Loeb said. “Most notably, one of our cast members that isn’t here because she’s working is Rosario Dawson, who continues the character of Claire Temple. So the short answer is we are already doing it. The long answer is as things go by, as the story dictates it, we’ve always been big fans of providing Easter eggs for our fans, but we never want to be known as an Easter egg farm. It has to work within the story. We never want to do Luke Cage gets into a cab as Foggy Nelson and Matt Murdock are getting out of the cab. For those of you that are old enough to know this reference, it’s not when The Man from U.N.C.L.E. was on Please Don’t Eat the Daisies. You actually get to see our characters interact with each other.”

http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-movie-tv-crossover/#

and
Loeb Reveals Why Marvel's TV Superheroes Haven't Appeared in the Movies
The Marvel Television chief explains how the films and TV shows fit together, and why the Netflix characters haven't popped up more in the movies.

http://www.cbr.com/loeb-reveals-why-marvels-tv-superheroes-havent-appeared-in-the-movies/

 

[metaphysician]

I continue to roll my eyes at the perpetual refusal to admit the biggest, most obvious reason why the Netflix heroes aren't showing up on the Avengers: Because they have completely different scales of operation, interests, and thus have no business showing up on an Avengers case. If an Avenger is running across a Daredevil plot, then they are having such a slow day that it does not make for a movie. .. doubly so because the Avenger will utterly destroy a Daredevil plot.

Or bluntly, give me a good reason why Daredevil or Jessica Jones should show up on the Avengers, that isn't "fan service".

 

[Endeavor]

Or bluntly, give me a good reason why Daredevil or Jessica Jones should show up on the Avengers, that isn't "fan service".

To serve the function that cops and military served in Avengers 1 and that SHIELD and the new helicarrier served in Age of Ultron. To help save civilians from the secondary villains, help them evacuate and try to alleviate collateral damage while the Avengers are dealing with the stronger foes.
With ante being upped in threat levels as the MCU matures, joe schmoe police man isn't going to cut it anymore, and the Netflix street level heroes plus the characters in AOS would fit perfectly to that function.

 

[NotNickFury]

Joe Schmoe certainly cut it when a sea of aliens rained down from the sky before. Use them instead of convoluting a way to introduce the general audience- that no doubt hasn't seen the shows in the same numbers as the films- to characters that fans only want to appear just so they can show up, not because it serves the story.

Again, going back to Age of Ultron, it made no difference whether the folks on that Helicarrier were just random SHIELD folks or characters from Agents of SHIELD, and it certainly won't matter if the ground forces in Infinity War are just more military or armed forces folks.