Matt insults a classic movie (Now insulting Superman: The Movie)

[JLBats]

...I was talking about the part where you're a raving lunatic mad with power, but thanks

 

[Doctor Jones]

WORD. Though I wouldn't say it's crap, but it is so bland, kinda ridiculous, and yeah, boring, imo.

I also can't believe that it's considered one of the best movies ever..

There's no such thing as a boring film.

 

[Doctor Jones]

This thread is disapointing. I'm so surprised that not alot of people on these boards understand the significance of this film.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

I'm going to keep an eye on this thread to read the reactions!

 

[Apollo]

The Graduate is what happened. It took away 2 hours of my life that I'll never get back and now I'm bitter

now you're wasting even more hours talking about it!!!!

this film is really eating away at you

*sends matt a Hallmark Card*

 

[bullets]

this seems like a softcore porn flick , suprised people found it boring.

 

[Matt]

Time for me to insult another classic movie...this time, a fanboy favorite...Superman the Movie:

What a pile of crap. Every fanboy on this board hails it as if it were the herald of God, himself. News flash, its not that good.

Lets start with the plot...Superman, a man whose power is infinite and Lex Luthor, a man who is supposed to be a brilliant criminal mastermind...and what is the plot? Lex and his two idiot cronies (really, couldn't find better henchmen?) high jack nuclear missiles in order to...wait for it...CONDUCT A PLOT TO SEPERATE THE WEST COAST FROM THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES SO THAT HIS REAL ESTATE VALUES INCREASE!.......really? I mean, really? Forget about using the nuclear missiles to blow up DC and stage a coup, or to even just black mail the United States into giving him money. He has to go through with some ridiculous plot to increase real estate value? This is what Superman is stopping? I would've rather seen Nuclear Man. Hell, I would've rather seen Richard Pryor.

And sure, the movie has some decent character development seens, but they are brought down to the level of B-movie through the atrocious acting of Margot Kidder and the over the top phone in of Gene Hackman.

Also, wtf is with the allegory? Why exactly did Donner feel the need to turn Superman into the second coming of Christ? Was Jor-El some kind of prophet? Was he a psychic? Could he see the future? Was anything of this nature alluded to in the script? Naaah, but somehow he was able to foresee his son becoming Earth's new messiah.

And speaking of plot holes...Superman can fly fast enough to turn the Earth backwards and reverse time (And I will not even discuss the stupidity of such a concept or the cheap deus ex machina cop out of it)...but he cannot fly from the East Coast to the West Coast to get two missiles? Really?

And finally...Christopher Reeve...overrated. Were it not for his accident, he would be signing autographs at San Diego Comic Con for five dollars a pop and that would be like, 60 % of his yearly income. He would not be remembered as any kind of great actor, and rightfully so, because he wasn't that good. The myth of him is greater than who he really. is.

And oh my God, talk about having aged horribly. Plan 9 From Outerspace is more watchable than this today and less campy. Clark tripped over something HAHAHA! THATS SO FUNNY! LUTHOR'S WIG CAME OFF! HAHAHA BALD PEOPLE ARE FUNNY!

Now granted, the sequel is actually still pretty good...but still, talk about a crappy foundation to build off. And I personally am glad that Richard Lester came onto Superman II, because he did fix many of Donner's mistakes. Sure, he may be responsible for the super kiss, but it is less corny, there is no cheesey turning the earth backwards fix-everything climax...it is a better movie as a result of Lester. There, someone had to say it.

So yeah, many consider this to be the father of comic movies...I consider it to be the creepy uncle who is not allowed within 500 yards of a child that no one likes to talk about.


This has been another classic movie, trashed by Matt.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Agreed. Although I like Christopher Reeve in the role and that the movie itself is remembered not so much for its horrid plot but the groundbreaking visuals.

Kidder was truly something to be appalled about. Horrible acting, horrible voice, pretty ugly and the scene where she recited the poem as they are flying is probably one of the worst scenes to ever grace celluloid.

 

[bunk]

Oh jesus, yeah that Lois monologue is one of the most cringe worthy moments ever. And people call Superman Returns a chick flick...yeesh.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I love the way you changed the bracket sub, very cinematic. I never liked STM, i found it boring and corny, although i thought Reeve was very much the embodiment of Superman.

 

[I Am The Knight]

So is this thread about bit**** about classic movies?

I haven't seen The Graduate, BTW.

 

[Matt]

I love the way you changed the bracket sub, very cinematic. I never liked STM, i found it boring and corny, although i thought Reeve was very much the embodiment of Superman.

That is only because The Man wants you to think that. Its all part of a marketing conspiracy aimed at exploiting Reeve's accident and later death.

 

[danoyse]

And finally...Christopher Reeve...overrated. Were it not for his accident, he would be signing autographs at San Diego Comic Con for five dollars a pop and that would be like, 60 % of his yearly income. He would not be remembered as any kind of great actor, and rightfully so, because he wasn't that good. The myth of him is greater than who he really. is.

Oh Matt. Do you realize what a well-respected and acclaimed stage actor he was before and even more so, after Superman? He graduated from Juliard, for god's sake. Superman was huge for him, but it was really a small part of a great career he had.

 

[Matt]

Oh Matt. Do you realize what a well-respected and acclaimed stage actor he was before and even more so, after Superman? He graduated from Juliard, for god's sake. Superman was huge for him, but it was really a small part of a great career he had.

And do you know what we call stage acting in America? Communist acting. Why don't you support the troops, pinko? :heart:

But yeah, I stand by what I said. There is no denying that Superman stalled his film career and he probably would not have been remembered or idolized by fanboys and the mainstream media if it had not been for his accident. We wouldn't have seen such an effort to clone him for SR. He would not be considered the definitive Superman were it not for the mythes that surround him. Us Superman fans would still be looking for our Bale.

 

[The Guard]

I don't think SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE is a great film. But it's a good movie in most respects. Especially since it was essentially the first comic book film to take a remotely serious approach to the material.

Yes, Lex's plot is stupid, but we're talking about a comic book supervillain here. The plots tended to be pretty stupid, back in the day, and usually revolved around money. At least Luthor's plot made for some good "rescue potential".

I've never felt Chris Reeve is a very good actor. He does look and sound a lot like Superman would, but his acting leaves something to be desired. Margot Kidder's just plain hard to watch at times

Jor-El sent Kal-El to Earth because he knew he'd be powerful, and he essentially trained Superman to be Earth's savior in SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE, so it's not like he wouldn't have some idea of what was going to happen. It does feel kind of random.

There are plot holes. Not the least of which is exactly HOW turning back time changed anything. Wouldn't he still have to catch the missles, etc?

 

[Cracker Jack]

There's no such thing as a boring film.

Guess you've never seen Ang Lee's Hulk t:

 

[Dr Strange]

It has some really big plot holes and some acting is poor but overall it is a great, enjoyable film, which i love and Reeve was great.

 

[Matt]

It has some really big plot holes and some acting is poor but overall it is a great, enjoyable film, which i love and Reeve was great.

I'll put you down for a "bad movie."

 

[dark_b]

i think because of the accident they were always saying that he is a real superman. but other then that i think they would still respect him.

 

[danoyse]

And do you know what we call stage acting in America? Communist acting. Why don't you support the troops, pinko? :heart:

But yeah, I stand by what I said. There is no denying that Superman stalled his film career and he probably would not have been remembered or idolized by fanboys and the mainstream media if it had not been for his accident. We wouldn't have seen such an effort to clone him for SR. He would not be considered the definitive Superman were it not for the mythes that surround him. Us Superman fans would still be looking for our Bale.

I thought us theater fans were called "elitists"?

I was a fan of Christopher Reeve for years--he wasn't in it for a film career, he did those films and went right back to the stage. His time as Superman was before the word 'fanboys' even existed and before these movies were referred to as 'franchises'.

And he certainly fared better than George Reeves, who couldn't get arrested once he played Superman.

 

[Dr Strange]

I'll put you down for a "bad movie."

Its a bit difficult when your choices are "Bad Movie" and "Worst Movie" when i agree with neither. lol

 

[I Am The Knight]

And finally...Christopher Reeve...overrated. Were it not for his accident, he would be signing autographs at San Diego Comic Con for five dollars a pop and that would be like, 60 % of his yearly income. He would not be remembered as any kind of great actor, and rightfully so, because he wasn't that good. The myth of him is greater than who he really. is.

Was this necessary? I don't think anyone considers him a great actor overall. But he did play Superman in a very convincing way, he is the main reason those movies worked in the end.

 

[Dr Strange]

Was this necessary? I don't think anyone considers him a great actor overall. But he did play Superman in a very convincing way, he is the main reason those movies worked in the end.

I completely Agree.

 

[Matt]

I thought us theater fans were called "elitists"?

:heart:

I was a fan of Christopher Reeve for years--he wasn't in it for a film career, he did those films and went right back to the stage. His time as Superman was before the word 'fanboys' even existed and before these movies were referred to as 'franchises'.

And he certainly fared better than George Reeves, who couldn't get arrested once he played Superman.

Perhaps, but I've never seen any of his stage performances, so I couldn't say. All I am commenting on is that he would not be as revered in the mainstream were it not for the accident.

Was this necessary? I don't think anyone considers him a great actor overall. But he did play Superman in a very convincing way, he is the main reason those movies worked in the end.

Why was it unnecessary? I am critiquing an actor who I feel to be overrated due to a tragic event. The same could be said of Kurt Cobain's music or James Dean, but I'm willing to bet you wouldn't get upset if I commented that either of them are overrated due to dying young because they never played any roles for fanboys to latch onto. It is a fair critique of Reeve.

 

[Sawyer]

I wouldnt call Superman a pile of crap, but it certainly is over-rated. Most of all was Hackman's Luthor. He kind of blew.