Matt Reeves Directing The Batman

[Monochron]

Iñarritu would be a good choice, now that I think about it.

He has described superhero films as "cultural genocide".

 

[Boom]

You're the one that brought up his post count. Sounds like it matters to you.

 

[Babillygunn]

We NEED a Michael Mann Batman film.

 

[2kt09]

Sadly though, they had Affleck and likely ran him off with their meddling.

Nah, that relationship genuinely feels like it's mostly on Affleck as he bit off more than he can chew, how he deals with failure + the barrage of inquiries toward him when he feels it's not relevant for the moment. Plus, w/e personal strife he's currently going through.

 

[Zero_Effect]

We NEED a Michael Mann Batman film.

Last three films:

Miami Vice: 47%, based on 195 reviews. $163.8M world wide (135M budget).

Public Enimes: 68%, based on 263 reviews. $214.1M world wide (100M budget).

Blackhat: 34%, based on 161 reviews. $19.7M world wide (70M budget).

 

[Kane52630]

Iñarritu would be a good choice, now that I think about it.

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[Paradox1]

Nah, that relationship genuinely feels like it's mostly on Affleck as he bit off more than he can chew, how he deals with failure + the barrage of inquiries toward him when he feels it's not relevant for the moment. Plus, w/e personal strife he's currently going through.

I agree with this, I genuinely think Affleck is just not right mentally with everything else going on in his life.

 

[Patchwork Man]

We NEED a Michael Mann Batman film.

A film made in the style of Thief (one of my favorites) would be pretty cool, I say.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

He has described superhero films as "cultural genocide".

I get the all "cultural genocide" angle that Iñárritu talked about, but at the same time is a very naive and limited way of looking at it.
It's also an over-statement.

I sometimes enjoy them because they are basic and simple and go well with popcorn. The problem is that sometimes they purport to be profound, based on some Greek mythological kind of thing. And they are honestly very right wing. I always see them as killing people because they do not believe in what you believe, or they are not being who you want them to be. I hate that, and don’t respond to those characters. They have been poison, this cultural genocide, because the audience is so overexposed to plot and explosions and **** that doesn’t mean nothing about the experience of being human.

If you observe the mentality of most of those films, it’s really about people who are rich, who have power, who will do the good, who will kill the bad. Philosophically, I just don’t like them.

Superhero movies are visceral (dealing with crude or elemental emotions), are almost primeval.
Superhero movies are about morals and values, are about doing the right thing and overcome impossible odds to achieve that.

And they are honestly very right wing. I always see them as killing people because they do not believe in what you believe

This, if you look at it as less than an over-statement, it makes no sense.

A superhero doesn't kill because someone doesn't agree with him, they kill because someone is a threat to humanity.
Like i said, superhero movies are very primeval, it's about good vs evil.
They are not huge dissertations of the human psyche, nor should they be. They can play with certain themes, but they are not it.

 

[2kt09]

Iñarritu is perfect for this universe sans Suicide Squad.

 

[Jekecy]

Iñarritu is perfect for this universe sans Suicide Squad.

The writings were on the wall, but I think we're closing in on a time where auteurs like him will definitely never touch these properties so long as it's meticulously coordinated by the studio system.

I always wanted interconnected universes, but not so routinely and certainly not to the detriment of every individual IPs own solo films.

I'll be disheartened if this is what the Batman series has come down to.

 

[BH/HHH]

It's funny cause I imagine in say a decades time people will want self contained trilogies again with these characters. Everything goes round in circles.

 

[Jekecy]

It's funny cause I imagine in say a decades time people will want self contained trilogies again with these characters. Everything goes round in circles.

It's still possible to have self-contained series and connected universes simultaneously. I just think the creatives behind the likes of JL should conform to the visions of the directors behind the solo IPs. Right now it seems like it's the other way around.

This way there's only one primary team which has to worry about the story and character logistics melding well together. Not a half dozen separate teams all feeling like they're sacrificing their voice to satisfy another.

 

[Ivan Drago]

Man, the DCEU really brings out the ugliness in people.

 

[BH/HHH]

It's still possible to have self-contained series and connected universes simultaneously. I just think the creatives behind the likes of JL should conform to the visions of the directors behind the solo IPs. Right now it seems like it's the other way around.

This way there's only one primary team which has to worry about the story and character logistics melding well together. Not a half dozen separate teams all feeling like they're sacrificing their voice to satisfy another.

Oh I know there's ways of doing it but I just feel one day people will want to return to the simplicity of self contained trilogies. I know people already who are fed up with these interconnected universes.

 

[FunkMiller]

It's funny cause I imagine in say a decades time people will want self contained trilogies again with these characters. Everything goes round in circles.

I've always been of the opinion WB should have stuck with that from day one. That would actually be something different to what Marvel is doing, and would have worked out a lot better IMO. DC characters are iconic enough to stand on their own two feet. They don't need a shared universe. Independent trilogies should have been the template, as laid down by TDKT.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

He has described superhero films as "cultural genocide".

Oh then he is definitely the one. Pay the man WB!

 

[BH/HHH]

I've always been of the opinion WB should have stuck with that from day one. That would actually be something different to what Marvel is doing, and would have worked out a lot better IMO. DC characters are iconic enough to stand on their own two feet. They don't need a shared universe. Independent trilogies should have been the template, as laid down by TDKT.

Well even though I wanted an interconnected universe I have to admit I wanted a Superman trilogy more.

 

[2kt09]

I've always been of the opinion WB should have stuck with that from day one. That would actually be something different to what Marvel is doing, and would have worked out a lot better IMO. DC characters are iconic enough to stand on their own two feet. They don't need a shared universe. Independent trilogies should have been the template, as laid down by TDKT.

Even independent trilogies are antiquated.
DC is the only brand I know that's so well known for its elseworlds.
Will confuse the heck out of the GA, but you will always have a constant supply of merchandise to make and sell.

 

[FunkMiller]

Well even though I wanted an interconnected universe I have to admit I wanted a Superman trilogy more.

Something we agree on t: I was quite gutted when they announced BvS. Not just because I felt it was way too close to The Dark Knight, but because I wanted a Superman trilogy! Such a pity.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Man, the DCEU really brings out the ugliness in people.

No one stays good in this world

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[FunkMiller]

Even independent trilogies are antiquated.
DC is the only brand I know that's so well known for its elseworlds.
Will confuse the heck out of the GA, but you will always have a constant supply of merchandise to make and sell.

A 50 million dollar version of Gotham By Gaslight would make a lot of bank. I think Batman is the only character you can do Elseworlds with right now, though.

 

[FunkMiller]

No one stays good in this world

Constipatedsupermanface.jpg

 

[Zero_Effect]

I've always been of the opinion WB should have stuck with that from day one. That would actually be something different to what Marvel is doing, and would have worked out a lot better IMO. DC characters are iconic enough to stand on their own two feet. They don't need a shared universe. Independent trilogies should have been the template, as laid down by TDKT.

Most of us grew up with that. That is all we knew till Iron Man came out. I want to see these characters in the same universe. I want to see Batman & Superman interacting. I am sure i am in the majority in that thinking. All WB/DC needs to do is make better movies and no one will be *****ing about them needing to be different.

 

[writer0327]

Well even though I wanted an interconnected universe I have to admit I wanted a Superman trilogy more.

Honestly, that's all I wanted too and that's what they should have done anyway, even with the DCEU ongoing. They should have had MoS2 out sometime last year or this year. Instead they went with BvS to try and kickstart their universe. When in reality, they weren't ready.

Iron Man 1, 2, and 3 were done within 5 years. Captain America 1, 2, and 3 were done within 5 years. We're going on the 4th year after MoS with no direct sequel in sight. It should have had a similar timeframe.