Matt Reeves To Direct The Upcoming Batman Solo

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I assume Reeves spoke with Affleck beforehand regarding story changes and what not. At least I hope he did, lol.
 
I obviously don't know Ben, but I reckon what he wants the most is for the movie to be one that is well received. If Matt feels the best way to achieve that is by starting over, then I imagine he would be completely fine with that.
 
The script could have been amazing
Just not what Reeves has in mind.
With his talk of a trilogy, it's obvious that he has a vision for this.
Working off someone else's script doesn't Give him the freedom that he needs for that.

^ This exactly.
 
I obviously don't know Ben, but I reckon what he wants the most is for the movie to be one that is well received. If Matt feels the best way to achieve that is by starting over, then I imagine he would be completely fine with that.

Especially given that Affleck is a director in his own right. He'll understand the situation and position that Reeves is in, being able to view it from the other side.
 
The Dark Knight Trilogy was fantastic with the first two being incredible and the third being pretty solid but there are some things I think the Reeves films can improve.

IMO


-making Gotham look unique and not exactly like NYC and Chicago
-not making Batman a weak little ***** who quits being Batman after just a year total of being him
-Not being obsessed with "Realism
"
 
Bruce didn't quit being Batman cause he was "a weak little s**t", he quit to uphold the image of Harvey Dent as Gotham's true hero.

Y'know, sacrifice. :)
 
Ben kinda lost his authority when he admitted that he wouldn't direct the film unless the script came together and then proceeded to actually not take the directors seat.

I dont see why Reeves should be saddled with a script that Ben and Johns couldn't put together despite working on it for more than a year, Ben will understand.
 
Bruce didn't quit being Batman cause he was "a weak little s**t", he quit to uphold the image of Harvey Dent as Gotham's true hero.

Y'know, sacrifice. :)


Nah. I agree with the OP. I get what you're trying to say with sacrifice but in the years after where TDKR takes place, we learn that Bruce is a recluse who fell victim to his own self pity.

He's the richest guy in Gotham, Smart as hell who only had to sacrifice being Batman. That's it. haha! He was a spoiled old brat.


Anyways, I think they should stay away from making the movie too grounded. That was my problem with Nolan's movies so I think they can improve by adding in more fantasy elements.
 
Nolan did this hyper-realistic take wherein there was this undeniable absurdity to his world and characters in the way he grounded them.

Reeves's sense of grounding is heck of a lot more subdued set to the backdrop of fantasy and reliant on simpler interactions and emotions.
Interpersonal relationships are key to advancing the story.
Thus, there's a certain expectation that the Batfamily, the police, and the criminal underworld are bound to be more fleshed out.
 
If the producers were happy with the Affleck/Johns/Terrio script, then they would have moved forward with that script. They'd have thanked Matt Reeves for his time, and then moved on to another candidate that'd be willing to work with the existing script.

The fact that they're letting Reeves rebuild this film from the ground up is proof enough that they weren't satisfied with the old script. At the very least, they didn't love it enough to keep it.
 
Fight scenes, above all else.

The look and atmosphere of Gotham is also a big one.
 
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- I'm all for on-location shooting, but I'd like them to use a combination of sets, miniatures, bigatures, and CG backdrops in creating Gotham City. I also think it'd be great if they filmed in some European cities so we could see some old Gothic architecture. I want Gotham City to have an "old" quality about it, and I'd like it to have its own unique visual identity. No more pretending that Gotham isn't obviously Chicago, please.

- Reeves hinted at this being a noir-driven detective film. I want him to hold true to that. I don't want another city-wide threat. I honestly just want this film to center around a mystery that Batman is trying to solve. I'm all for having action sequences, but I am ready for Batman the World's Greatest Detective. It's an aspect of the character that makes him truly unique among a sea of superheroes.

- Introduce us to Barbara Gordon and Dick Grayson. If this movie is going to be an emotional and personal story for Bruce, I'd like to see his arc be one of redemption and reparation. Have Barbara and Dick living in Bludhaven, estranged from Bruce after his post-MoS breakdown. Bruce reaches out and tries to mend those relationships.
 
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Just the detective angle. What we got in the Nolan films and even in BvS was fine, but with Nolan, Batman felt more like a ninja there. Here, and given the direction Reeves seems to want to go in, here's a chance to give us a look at why Batman's such a good detective. That and, depending on the team involved, the same level of dread and fear you'd get from Batman similar to his introduction in BvS or his mobility in the warehouse fight.
 
Bruce didn't quit being Batman cause he was "a weak little s**t", he quit to uphold the image of Harvey Dent as Gotham's true hero.

Y'know, sacrifice. :)

Quoted for truth.

Plus the fact that they say crime levels went so low that Batman wasn't needed any more.
 
Saw War for the Planet of the Apes. This movie is in the best possible hands.
Agreed.

But the Apes box office is worrying me. WB is going to see that. Are they going to frown on any script that is as grim as Apes? Every Batman fan should buy a ticket to Apes post haste.

I'm guessing if WB was actually happy with Affleck's script that them not allowing Reeves to start over might have been what held up negotiations initially.
The events don't match that theory though. Affleck stated that he wouldn't direct if he didn't like the script...and then he stepped down as director. So something about the script wasn't going well.

This happened before Reeves was involved obviously since there would be no reason to talk to him if Affleck was still the director.
 
Agreed.
But the Apes box office is worrying me. WB is going to see that. Are they going to frown on any script that is as grim as Apes? Every Batman fan should buy a ticket to Apes post haste.
Eh
I don't think apes box office is anything to go by.
Batman is much bigger than the apes franchise and will no doubt bring in more money.
WB knows that.


Agreed.
The events don't match that theory though. Affleck stated that he wouldn't direct if he didn't like the script...and then he stepped down as director. So something about the script wasn't going well.
It could have been the script but there was plenty of **** going on in his personal life too.
 
I'll catch War for the Planet of the Apes a second time in theaters. It's a very good movie, but I'm not quite sure how strong its rewatchability factor is. It's an emotionally-heavy, slow-burner of a film. I think that may hurt its BO legs more than anything else.
 
JeetKuneDo said:
Agreed.
But the Apes box office is worrying me. WB is going to see that. Are they going to frown on any script that is as grim as Apes? Every Batman fan should buy a ticket to Apes post haste.

Sucker Punch bombed hard / got savaged by critics and WB still let Snyder do MOS.
MOS underperformed / got very mixed reviews and WB still let Snyder do BvS.
BvS underperformed / got savaged by critics and WB still let Snyder do Justice League.
Justice League...You get my point :o
 
I wouldn't stress about it too much.
 
- Fight scenes for definite but that wouldn't be difficult.
- Another major one for me is not actually ending the characters journey in the third film. The end of a trilogy doesn't have to be the end for the character. I still think Batman Begins and the Dark Knight set up a Bond like Batman series for the character and that was ruined in the third film. Not that arises is bad, it isn't it's good it's just not great like the first two and makes decisions that I'll never fully be on board with.
- A more comic accurate Catwoman.
- The Bat Family
 
Sucker Punch bombed hard / got savaged by critics and WB still let Snyder do MOS.
MOS underperformed / got very mixed reviews and WB still let Snyder do BvS.
BvS underperformed / got savaged by critics and WB still let Snyder do Justice League.
Justice League...You get my point :o
I'm still stunned that WB let Snyder do as much as did. DC fans have had a rough 4 years until WW came along.
 
What the hell is going on with this thread? Is a mod just putting random posts from other threads in here?
 
That, or people are just losing their minds.
 
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