Max Payne

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Yeah it's basically the same crap as Hitman, which was the same lame ass crap except there they tried to make it like The Bourne Identity with some really lame, "dynamic" cinematography. No matter how hard they tried, Timothy Olyphant looked nothing like Agent 47 and was not intimidating or menacing at all.
 
Yeah it's basically the same crap as Hitman, which was the same lame ass crap except there they tried to make it like The Bourne Identity with some really lame, "dynamic" cinematography. No matter how hard they tried, Timothy Olyphant looked nothing like Agent 47 and was not intimidating or menacing at all.

Hell yeah, I always envisioned 47 as being somewhat middle age, Olyphant looked rather young and it was hard to accept him as being 47. No disrespect to Mark Wahlberg, I know it wasn't his fault, he even admitted that he never played Max Payne, he couldn't save this movie. You here about a movie based on a game you like and you try to keep an open mind about it only to have ur hopes shot down the moment you see the movie.

I get a slight chill now whenever I see that 20th Century Fox logo, it's almost like an omen
 
I liked this better than Hitman. It was a decent action film but I wouldn't compare it to the game .
 
Yeah it's basically the same crap as Hitman, which was the same lame ass crap except there they tried to make it like The Bourne Identity with some really lame, "dynamic" cinematography. No matter how hard they tried, Timothy Olyphant looked nothing like Agent 47 and was not intimidating or menacing at all.

I said the same thing but I was told that I was a whiney fanboy and that Timothy Olyphant is a known name who will get the film more recognition.
 
Olyphant's done some prolific work but he's far from being a known name. He definitely can't carry a big movie on his own or really draw an audience.

The fact of the matter is, Max Payne was not any kind of step forward for video game movies. Same dreck as before. Moore is just as bad as Paul Anderson.

And I'm not trying to be a hater. Not all the elements of the games are essential. But man, nothing I like about them are in the movie. Markie Mark's take, just looked phoned in. The thing about Max Payne, is that the character walks this thin line, and there's a part in the game (mainly due to the drug) where he kind of breaks the fourth wall and acknowledges that he's in a story. While the movie didn't really need to go THAT far, it would've been nice if everyone involved embraced the more extreme parts of Max Payne's character, that being that he's super-hard boiled, chain-smoker voice, and borderline parody but never quite parody.

The other thing is the action scenes aren't even really that good. While the games had a good, more involved story that had much more logical choices and outcomes, it always did a good job with the action and mixing the story up with the shootouts.

It was surprising there turned out to be so few action scenes in the movie, but the "story" sequences are just poorly done, lumbering sequences. Once again the story barely holds together here. I mean the game gave EVERYTHING to you and the movie can't even do a 2 hour cliff notes version of it, just a 90 minute insane bastardization.

Yeah I know the movie made #1 this weekend. Next weekend it drops like a rock but it will still probably be proclaimed as a success with intl/DVD sales etc. Hopefully we won't have to see a lame sequel.

I mean watching this movie it's no wonder why Fox is having so much trouble right now.

Is it any wonder why the reaction to the Dragon Ball footage was so outrageously negative? Oh and guess what? That Dragon Ball trailer for Max Payne never happened. Chances are of Fox not even releasing a trailer until like 3 months before the release.
 
i think its hard to make a movie like the game. but that doesnt mean that it needs to be bad . right?
i still havent watched the movie. will need to wait. but it happening like i exected. FOX
 
Well it must be hard because no one ever gets it right.

But Max Payne itself took a lot from cinema and media and what not. It was very self-reflexive work, then again a lot of games are.
 
the girl in the movie (from That 70s Show) was horribly miscast (the movie doesnt even show you if she lives or not... the last we see of her she gets into an elevator... then an explosion occurs)

While I hated the movie, this isn't a problem as 1. they did the same thing in the game, and 2.
they show she lived after the credits
 
Also, what's with everyone saying "Oh, it's so much harder to make a movie out of a game than it is a comic?" That's not f**king true at all. With a game, you have one single story to tell, usually that has already been told via action scenes, cinematics, and acting. All you have to do is translate it from a TV with a player, to a theater with an audience. Something like Max Payne pretty much does that without any additional help needed. You could pretty much just film someone playing the game well and have a movie.

With comics you have to drudge through years upon years of history to take the defining moments of the character that the fans want to see while still telling a cohesive story. That's how you get things like X3 and Spider-Man 3, where it's full of stuff fans said they wanted, but it just doesn't work when thrown into a blender and then regurgitated onto the screen.

Making things like Max Payne, Hitman, and Resident Evil (ESPECIALLY Resident Evil) should have been a no brainer, yet they managed to screw all of them up. The only video game movie they've ever done right is Mortal Kombat, as it stuck to the games story, was fun, and yeah cheesy as hell, but that was kind of the point.
 
Also, what's with everyone saying "Oh, it's so much harder to make a movie out of a game than it is a comic?" That's not f**king true at all. With a game, you have one single story to tell, usually that has already been told via action scenes, cinematics, and acting. All you have to do is translate it from a TV with a player, to a theater with an audience. Something like Max Payne pretty much does that without any additional help needed. You could pretty much just film someone playing the game well and have a movie.

With comics you have to drudge through years upon years of history to take the defining moments of the character that the fans want to see while still telling a cohesive story. That's how you get things like X3 and Spider-Man 3, where it's full of stuff fans said they wanted, but it just doesn't work when thrown into a blender and then regurgitated onto the screen.

Making things like Max Payne, Hitman, and Resident Evil (ESPECIALLY Resident Evil) should have been a no brainer, yet they managed to screw all of them up. The only video game movie they've ever done right is Mortal Kombat, as it stuck to the games story, was fun, and yeah cheesy as hell, but that was kind of the point.

Very true, there is no problem with taking liberties with some aspects, but the main aspects that make or break the character should be left untouched. Marky Mark really didnt give me that feeling that he was Max Payne, Max rarely changed his tone of voice throughout the game and his relationship with Mona was very different in the film. Fox is having a bad track record with delivering these films just to get a quick buck, this film had so much potential yet it failed so miserably
 
Also, what's with everyone saying "Oh, it's so much harder to make a movie out of a game than it is a comic?" That's not f**king true at all. With a game, you have one single story to tell, usually that has already been told via action scenes, cinematics, and acting. All you have to do is translate it from a TV with a player, to a theater with an audience. Something like Max Payne pretty much does that without any additional help needed. You could pretty much just film someone playing the game well and have a movie.

With comics you have to drudge through years upon years of history to take the defining moments of the character that the fans want to see while still telling a cohesive story. That's how you get things like X3 and Spider-Man 3, where it's full of stuff fans said they wanted, but it just doesn't work when thrown into a blender and then regurgitated onto the screen.

Making things like Max Payne, Hitman, and Resident Evil (ESPECIALLY Resident Evil) should have been a no brainer, yet they managed to screw all of them up. The only video game movie they've ever done right is Mortal Kombat, as it stuck to the games story, was fun, and yeah cheesy as hell, but that was kind of the point.

Agreed. I can't believe how some of these directors manage to screw up something so simple.
 
I thought it was pretty mediocre should have waited for the dvd, it was basically Marky Mark doing his bad ass routine that he does in just about everything he does.
 
I never played the game but I knew some of the little details of what it was about. I enjoyed the hell outta this movie. At first I didn't like the fact that it had a PG-13 rating because it was a violent game. But after seeing the movie I didn't care anymore. I'm diffenetly gonna be getting this on DVD. And buying the games.

And can somebody tell what exactly that newspaper said that Max was reading after the credits?
 
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I never played the game but I knew some of the little details of what it was about. I enjoyed the hell outta this movie. At first I didn't like the fact that it had a PG-13 rating because it was a violent game. But after seeing the movie I didn't care anymore. I'm diffenetly gonna be getting this on DVD. And buying the games.

And can somebody tell what exactly that newspaper said that Max was reading after the credits?

That Aesir's stocks went up big time.
 
i prefered hitman...

better action and story...

but max payne was visually better... unlike hitmans low budget look
 
The Valkyr drug put its users into an insane mindset and they experienced some horrific hallucinations. But what did I think of Max Payne? It was pretty different and while it wasn't a great film, it definitely could've been better with a director who understood the material and made it faithful visually to the game.

Now as I said before, there were many things I did like about the film. I did like how they put emphasis on the Valkyr drug, I liked how Mark showed flashes of how Max is, and the action was definitely shot very well. Perhaps it could've been better with some blood and grit in there.

But overall? Yeah, it was wasted potential and it could've been better for sure. What people fail to realize is that a lot of the makers of the game are so happy to see their product be made into a film they relinquish all creative control. Hitman, Doom, Alone in the Dark, Bloodrayne, and the upcoming Castlevania have potential to be great films and some have been ruined.

I remember when I expressed my disgust with Hitman and the casting of Timothy Olyphant I was called a whiney fanboy, someone who doesn't understand the film business and that Timothy Olyphant is a known actor who will give the film more recognition and money.
 
Somebody here said they changed what the Valkyr drug from the game did. In the movie it was impiled that the drug gave more stamina and bravness. But the side effect was hallucinations. So exactly what did they change about the drug?
 
Dude Last Sunrise, chill out already. Why are you still harping on Hitman? At the time I also said he was totally miscast as 47 as well. But with Fox, the director, and the script it wouldn't have made much of a different if it was a more apt choice like Diesel or Statham in there.

I forget what the exact purpose of the drug was in the games. But they took the mobster character of Lupino who kept spouting out Greek mythology and basically made that the crux of the drug. A glorified performance enhancer that makes people see winged valkyries or some dumb crap. They were using the drugs in the movies IN THE WAR ON TERROR which they repeated about a hundred times.

The Castlevania script by Anderson is terrible. He basically does a bad ripoff of Coppolla/Bram Stoker's Dracula. If he does it, it will be terrible just like AVP.

Mark Wahlberg was poorly cast here. He has virtually no character in this movie. None of the charm or coolness from the game with Max is in this movie. Markie Mark is very robotic and stiff. The only hint was the intro which was sort of game-ish but it went steeply downhill from there. All the cool hard-boiled film noir elements are gone. Max really trying to unravel a mystery which his wife was very much an active character in, as well as the truly disturbing and unsettling visuals of Max's tragedy. It's like they didn't want to address that the baby was killed at all. The revelation is totally lame and the movie is basically a great series of anti-climaxes.

I mean I don't even see the point of going to a movie like this for the action because the action scenes were nothing to write home about. They were all pretty quick and uneventful.
 
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Dude Last Sunrise, chill out already. Why are you still harping on Hitman? At the time I also said he was totally miscast as 47 as well. But with Fox, the director, and the script it wouldn't have made much of a different if it was a more apt choice like Diesel or Statham in there.

I forget what the exact purpose of the drug was in the games. But they took the mobster character of Lupino who kept spouting out Greek mythology and basically made that the crux of the drug. A glorified performance enhancer that makes people see winged valkyries or some dumb crap. They were using the drugs in the movies IN THE WAR ON TERROR which they repeated about a hundred times.

The Castlevania script by Anderson is terrible. He basically does a bad ripoff of Coppolla/Bram Stoker's Dracula. If he does it, it will be terrible just like AVP.

Mark Wahlberg was poorly cast here. He has virtually no character in this movie. None of the charm or coolness from the game with Max is in this movie. Markie Mark is very robotic and stiff. The only hint was the intro which was sort of game-ish but it went steeply downhill from there. All the cool hard-boiled film noir elements are gone. Max really trying to unravel a mystery which his wife was very much an active character in, as well as the truly disturbing and unsettling visuals of Max's tragedy. It's like they didn't want to address that the baby was killed at all. The revelation is totally lame and the movie is basically a great series of anti-climaxes.

I mean I don't even see the point of going to a movie like this for the action because the action scenes were nothing to ride home about. They were all pretty quick and uneventful.

The casting was not too great at all, characters felt somewhat out of place and then again some of them just didnt fit the role. Ludacris is cool and all, but most of the roles that he has been playing arent too far from his everyday persona, either he was a rapper or a thug, him being casted as Jim Bravura kinda irked me, I wouldn't have minded if they would have had someone like Keith David as Bravura, he seems to fit better. I just wish they would have taken more time with the movie, they started filming this in March I believe and they were done in May, boy does it show.....
 

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