Deadpool had consistent movies. Superman and FF have not.
Deadpool and Wolverine was a the coming together of two of the most beloved superhero series of the century. It was a big event film and Marvel with always make money on big event nostalgia. The issue is that's all audiences seem to be into now.
I do think it's fair to point out that Cap never had a sequel that didn't involve an Avenger. They basically gave him an Avengers flick for his third, and it didn't touch Black Panther's only solo with T'Challa.
TWS had Widow, sure. But so did Iron Man 2. CW I see less an indictment on Cap and more they wanted to compete with BvS.
I wouldn't say there is any indictment on Cap. Just not quite sure how popular Evans Steve was. Also Iron Man 2 introduced Widow. So I'd argue that was a rub for the character more then trying to boost IM2.
True to an extent, but I think there is also the factor that Widow cause of Perlmutter was not getting a movie, but they wanted to keep Widow visible. And given TWS was a SHIELD based film, using her, Fury, etc all made sense. I don't think Widow or Fury being on TWS alone doubles it's BO take movie 1 to movie 2. That's largely cause they cracked how to make Cap popular and the Avengers bump.
I think FF being in Spidey 5 is def happening. Johnny will be the costar, and we will see the Amazing Bag Man costume.
Oh there presence didn't double it. No doubt. Most of it was the Avengers bump. But I do think it's telling that a few months later GotG, a bunch of nobodies, cleaned Cap's clock at the box office.
Don't we know they did Civil War in direct response to BvS?
This is where I feel the film did come up short in the editing department. For example, the flash-back scenes of the FF fighting Red Ghost, Mole Man, Giganto, etc. could have been drawn out a LOT more than they were. They had an opportunity to recreate the FF’s first front comic cover and gave it literally 2 seconds of time on screen. If you blinked you missed it—and there was such a great chance there to show the Four using their powers for a bigger action sequence. Arguably the Little Ceasers Pizza commercial gave us more of that battle.
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This is a bad take. Variety is being vicious, but they are far closer to reality. There was no comp for F4 this weekend. The Bad Guys is the big opener with 22m. Superman and JW did 25m combined. Superman and JW are a month old. Superman dropped far less with a 10 day old JW.Interesting take from the Hollywood Reporter this morning:
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“The Fantastic Four reboot is having no trouble ruling over the competition in its second outing after reversing the curse that has plagued Marvel Studios for several years in opening to $117 million domestically and north of $200 million globally. However, despite stellar reviews and audience exit scores, the superhero pic is looking at a drop of 65 percent or more (that could change, of course, if traffic picks up on Saturday). While that’s within the norm for a superhero pic, it’s garnering attention from fanboy pundits after DC’s Superman fell less than 54 percent in its sophomore outing.
Superman, however, didn’t face the same competition when it launched. But there’s no denying the pic is holding in. It’s expected to come in fourth this weekend after clearing the $300 million mark last week at the domestic box office in a major milestone for DC Studios, which has struggled far more than Marvel. (Box office experts believe Fantastic Four, which opened two weeks after Superman, will ultimately catch up, or at least come close, but it remains to be seen.)“
Box Office: ‘Bad Guys 2,’ ‘Naked Gun’ Scoring Solid Openings as ‘Fantastic Four’ Stays No. 1 Overall
Neon's indie horror-comedy 'Together' is also opening this weekend at the crowded domestic box office.
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This is what I’ve been saying. Perhaps this is just a moment in time. We still have the rest of August for the film to rebound.
