Box Office Predictions for the new TMNT movie

[Mysteryman]

The sequel has been announced .
June 3 2016.
Bay is expected to return.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, I knew they were getting a much meatier summer time slot. Bay can foot the bill, just get better writers.

 

[DorneyDave]

We don't have an accurate representation of how much kids love this movie, but the box-office shows that they clearly went and were taken to see it.

I have a feeling kids love this movie and that's basically all they need. The store I work at, the TMNT movie toys are being sold like hotcakes and kids are digging into it.

They don't need to satisfy some "fans" beliefs. It's made for kids.

The reviews/word of mouth/public opinion/meta critic/whatever barometer you want to use was NEVER going to matter to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Because just like Transformers, it's the friggin Turtles.

It's going to get love and it's going to make money.

 

[dark_b]

when s sequel gets announced on the opening weekend than you know that some people working at the studio got rich. congratulations

recast Megan Fox and you have my permission .....

 

[warhorse78]

The way Bay has responded to critics, it seems that he almost makes his movies just to spite them and the disgruntled fans.

With regard to Paramount listening to fans, how much control over this is there between Paramount, Nickelodeon, and Platinum Dunes? Also, does IDW have any say, or do they handle the comics 100% independently of the film and TV media? With all the cooks in the kitchen, I'm curious who the head chef really is and what the terms of the contracts are to produce these.

It's going to boil down to what kind of toy is the hot seller. It's playmates that is dictating everything, not the studios, not the producers or directors, but the sales from a toy company.

 

[Mysteryman]

I don think Toys were responsible for the films success .
This was about kids loving The Turtles .

 

[DigificWriter]

I don think Toys were responsible for the films success .
This was about kids loving The Turtles .

Agreed, although I'd replace the word 'kids' with the word 'audiences', since I don't think we can definitively say that the majority of those who've seen the film over the course of this weekend have been exclusively kids.

 

[Utracia]

What!?!?

It's a lot to be happy about as a fan of TMNT. It gives the opportunity for paramount and nick films to redeem themselves with a sequel by correcting their flaws. We are in the age where there have been sequels that have outdone their predecessor more often than not. Optimism, my friend.

Because the film is complete garbage that's why. I find it a shame that people would rather watch this Michael Bay drivel then watch Guardians of the Galaxy again. Rewatch the cartoon if people want to see their Turtles.

 

[combocaz]

Because the film is complete garbage that's why. I find it a shame that people would rather watch this Michael Bay drivel then watch Guardians of the Galaxy again. Rewatch the cartoon if people want to see their Turtles.

Im pretty sure those who saw the TMNT saw Guardians. Both are getting sequels. If you think its garbage then thats your opinion but Michael Bay says thanks for going to see it.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

TMNT is not going to be nearly as profitable as TF4 at the box office.

In fact, Ninja Turtles will probably be slightly more profitable than GI Joe 2.

But merchandising/toys is where all 3 franchises become major cash cows.

 

[Klank]

It's a bit strange to me that we're seeing a big victory here.

Viacom bought TMNT as the first of what they hoped were many acquisitions to rival Disney and WB's comic book properties.

I'm also sure they hoped by having Michael Bay and the Transformers approach would lead to Transformers numbers. I'm guessing somewhere along the line they adjusted their expectations but it's still got to sting.

Sure it's had a fairly successful opening week and beat the predictions and dethroned Guardians but imagine if it had been released a week earlier and went head to head with that movie? The conversation about TMNT would be very different.

 

[combocaz]

Both would suffer if they opened together.

 

[Mysteryman]

Yes, and I am glad that they did not open together .
Let both films make money .

 

[harryoscop]

My theater.... was PACKED!!

 

[Utracia]

Im pretty sure those who saw the TMNT saw Guardians. Both are getting sequels. If you think its garbage then thats your opinion but Michael Bay says thanks for going to see it.

I'm sure he does, its too bad amount of $$$ doesn't therefore equal quality. Though if I recall right this has a slightly better RT rating than the recent Transformers. Though that's not saying much.

 

[terry78]

Quality doesn't equal money but if you want more of the **** you want to see you bet your ass it helps.

 

[Shikamaru]

I'm sure he does, its too bad amount of $$$ doesn't therefore equal quality. Though if I recall right this has a slightly better RT rating than the recent Transformers. Though that's not saying much.

Studios don't give a **** about quality, as long as you pay to see the film. You're incredibly naive if you think helping the film make big bucks means they'll somehow correct all flaws in the sequel. Because that worked so well for Transformers .

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Obviously, quality is not a factor for them if they rehired the same ****** screenwriters to write a sequel to this. Now, I'm not saying that they're totally to blame; rewrites, reshoots, bad editing, and hiring a ****** director to direct a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie produced by a mediocre director is what is to blame.

As Nathan said in another thread, the sequels will either go two ways: downgrade in quality and continue to get ****tier and be ripped to shreds by critics but still seen by the public or they'll learn their lesson, take their time and energy, and actually write, produce, and direct a decent if not great TMNT movie. Heck, by hiring an entirely new director, it could be the first redeemable thing this new trilogy could do, but unless this goes the route of "Incredible Hulk" and redoes the origin story in the opening intro/credits to what we expect it to be and pretend the first film didn't exist, I assume we'll get a "Ghost Rider 2" or "Punisher: Warzone" where it's another forgettable, poor excuse of a sequel that will probably air at 3AM on a weekend night than be taken seriously.

I would love for the TMNT get to the level of Marvel and see them get a Rotten Tomatoes score like that of "GOTG" or "Avengers" or "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" or a slew of other films but I just don't think it'll happen with this new franchise. I could be wrong but maybe the next cinematic go-around but now now unless changes can be addressed and made, but Bay doesn't care--- he's out to glorify ****, ass, and mindless explosions and the studio doesn't care because they're thinking of quantity vs. quality.

Yeah, maybe the old trilogy got lost in trying to appeal to kids and fans of the cartoons/campy goofiness, but I truly feel with the 1990's film they set out to make the best TMNT movie yet despite getting butchered by critics; this I'm not entirely sure.

 

[Jekecy]

I could be wrong but maybe the next cinematic go-around but now now unless changes can be addressed and made, but Bay doesn't care--- he's out to glorify ****, ass, and mindless explosions and the studio doesn't care because they're thinking of quantity vs. quality.

And not a single bit of this was present in the movie.

 

[DigificWriter]

I grew up on the Turtles and am a die-hard fan of the property, but I'm also realistic enough to accept that the property is what it is; it's never going to get the critical acclaim that other comic-book properties are, even if you put it in the hands of somebody like a Christopher Nolan or a Joss Whedon, and that's the cold, hard reality of the situation.

 

[Shikamaru]

And not a single bit of this was present in the movie.

We must have seen two different movies then.

Your username ought to be WhinyNinjaTurtleFan, because that's exactly what your comments sound like, particularly when you blame Michael Bay for **** he had absolutely nothing to do with...

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=29510373&postcount=112

...and act like a TMNT film should be some great cinematic masterpiece, which is akin to acting like concentrated grape juice should be a fine cabernet.

I grew up on the Turtles and am a die-hard fan of the property, but I'm also realistic enough to accept that the property is what it is; it's never going to get the critical acclaim that other comic-book properties are, even if you put it in the hands of somebody like a Christopher Nolan or a Joss Whedon, and that's the cold, hard reality of the situation.

So in other words, you've never read any of the TMNT comics or saw the 2k3 series.

 

[DigificWriter]

So in other words, you've never read any of the TMNT comics or saw the 2k3 series.

No.

I grew up on the 80s cartoon, and the 2003 series just didn't appeal to me.

BTW, even if someone were to make a TMNT film that was tonally reflective of the original comics, it still wouldn't be the kind of cerebral cinematic masterpiece that NinjaTurtleFan apparently wanted.

 

[Shikamaru]

No.

I grew up on the 80s cartoon, and the 2003 series just didn't appeal to me.

Well, that's pretty self-explanatory right there.

The 80's cartoon was a dumbed down version of the property. I don't mean in the sense of "lightening it up for kids", I mean seriously dumbed down as in sucking all the depth out of it. But most of the other successful versions that got off the ground - the Mirage comics, the 2k3 series, the IDN run - were all either for adults or mature but with kids in mind AKA for all ages, much like most successful Marvel/DC shows and films.

Have you gone back and watched the 80's cartoon since you were a kid? Just asking.

BTW, even if someone were to make a TMNT film that was tonally reflective of the original comics, it still wouldn't be the kind of cerebral cinematic masterpiece that NinjaTurtleFan apparently wanted.

Why? It's not that hard. It wouldn't be any harder than making a TDK or an Avengers or a CA:TWS. It's not like the potential isn't there. It's not like the well received stories aren't already there in other mediums. IDW's current run is one of the best in the industry, up there with Marvel and DC's best. No joke. Arguably superior to the Mirage comics themselves.

 

[Marvin]

This place.
Even during a victory like this weekend(seriously, some of the bo predictions were getting silly) the negativity persists. I can only imagine what would have happened had the actually bombed it's opening as we were told it would for months(cause fans aren't happy). Would have no doubt been pretty ugly.

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm not surprised by the box office success of the film, I always knew this is going to be appealing for viewers despite the low reviews. Back in 2007 when the animated film TMNT was released back in 2007, I was wondering why they aren't releasing another live-action since it would guarantee more money. Its nice to see this film became successful and to have a sequel. I was tempted to see this but the reviews stopped me, but I'll buying the film when it comes out on DVD.