MCU Fight: Aldrich Killian vs Drax The Destroyer

[BigThor]

I think Killian has the better tools compared to the weakened MCU Drax, but maybe Drax has an edge on fighting spirit when things go down to the wire.

I need to watch IM3 again. Just rewatched GotG V2.

Drax didn't really get many fight scenes in GOTG V2, besides shooting at those ships and the opening battle with that Abilisk monster.

 

[Iceman]

Drax didn't really get many fight scenes in GOTG V2, besides shooting at those ships and the opening battle with that Abilisk monster.

Yeah, absence of enough relevant fight scenes makes it harder to judge (same happened for Eson last time).

 

[Web-Head]

Yeah, absence of enough relevant fight scenes makes it harder to judge (same happened for Eson last time).

Yep. We were shown what Killian could do. Drax? Not so much

 

[BigThor]

Drax was in two films though, Eson had only a small 15-20 second appearance.

Actually he has far more fight scenes than Killian, who only had one while Drax has like 5. Most of them are in the first film though, I feel it showed enough of his abilities, he just isn't impressive.

 

[Iceman]

Drax coasted on reputation rather than feats a bit. I'm edging towards Killian, and it's a shame as I debated fiercely for comics Drax in the Contest of Marvels here back in 2006 lol.

 

[Surfer]

Drax coasted on reputation rather than feats a bit. I'm edging towards Killian, and it's a shame as I debated fiercely for comics Drax in the Contest of Marvels here back in 2006 lol.

Well as I have stated in other threads. An omission of a certain display of power does not necessarily indicate they are not more powerful then they appear, but we can only base it upon what we see and know. However, my plan is to update the list as the characters continue to be shown. Therefore, let's for the sake of argument say Drax right now can't beat Killian, well next time Drax appears he might have an amazing feat of strength that now places him a whole tier above by beating characters above Killian's level. I am not saying it will happen, but it is important to know the lists will be updated for the characters as new battles are shown in the movies and on TV. So, the characters are not limited to being labeled by a certain rank in the past, as new appearances gives them a opportunity to redefine themselves.

Surfer

 

[Iceman]

Well as I have stated in other threads. An omission of a certain display of power does not necessarily indicate they are not more powerful then they appear, but we can only base it upon what we see and know. However, my plan is to update the list as the characters continue to be shown. Therefore, let's for the sake of argument say Drax right now can't beat Killian, well next time Drax appears he might have an amazing feat of strength that now places him a whole tier above by beating characters above Killian's level. I am not saying it will happen, but it is important to know the lists will be updated for the characters as new battles are shown in the movies and on TV. So, the characters are not limited to being labeled by a certain rank in the past, as new appearances gives them a opportunity to redefine themselves.

Surfer

That sounds like a really good way to do it

Also makes me more willing to vote now knowing that it doesn't permanently 'condemn' a character just because we haven't seen everything they are supposedly capable of in action. Killian gets my vote on the abilities he showed during the fight against Iron Man.

 

[Surfer]

That sounds like a really good way to do it

Also makes me more willing to vote now knowing that it doesn't permanently 'condemn' a character just because we haven't seen everything they are supposedly capable of in action. Killian gets my vote on the abilities he showed during the fight against Iron Man.

Well the thing is that when people talk about fights like Thor vs. The Hulk they reference like 50 different sources, because there is a huge history in the comics of not only their battles, but their feats. However, comparatively the MCU is young and many characters have not been fleshed out fully. So, imagine if people that talked about Thor Vs. Hulk from the comics only talked about the first time they battled. Never considered any of the other battles or feats from the comics. Nope only the first battle. It is very limiting and really does not do either character justice. So, yeah it is important to always be considering any new information available to get a more accurate picture of where things truly stand for that character.

At least that is how I see it.

Surfer

 

[Iceman]

Well the thing is that when people talk about fights like Thor vs. The Hulk they reference like 50 different sources, because there is a huge history in the comics of not only their battles, but their feats. However, comparatively the MCU is young and many characters have not been fleshed out fully. So, imagine if people that talked about Thor Vs. Hulk from the comics only talked about the first time they battled. Never considered any of the other battles or feats from the comics. Nope only the first battle. It is very limiting and really does not do either character justice. So, yeah it is important to always be considering any new information available to get a more accurate picture of where things truly stand for that character.

At least that is how I see it.

Surfer

Yes makes sense. Will be interesting to see how this develops and also how characters already introduced develop their feats and performances as we see them in new situations.

 

[Surfer]

Yes makes sense. Will be interesting to see how this develops and also how characters already introduced develop their feats and performances as we see them in new situations.

Yeah, I am excited about it and I am as interested in seeing the results as much as everyone else.

Surfer

 

[BigThor]

Uh oh Aldrich is pulling away!

And guys don't forget put what Tier group you think Drax and Killian belong to in your posts.

 

[Mjölnir]

This is a very tough choice but I think I'll go with Killian for being a bit more well rounded with his speed.

 

[BigThor]

This is a very tough choice but I think I'll go with Killian for being a bit more well rounded with his speed.

Which power tier do you think Drax and Killian belong to?

 

[Playco Armboy]

Killian stomps. He melts Drax's face off.

 

[BigThor]

Killian stomps. He melts Drax's face off.

Sounds painful lol.

 

[Batmannerism]

Okay, here's how I see it going down.

Yes, Killian is probably stronger, has his heat-related powers and regeneration - so that's a couple of physical advantages.

Drax, well probably not as strong, but extremely tough. ( he was strong enough to fight and kill Korath, who withstood blasts from Star Lord's guns without any lasting injury).

However, Drax has a massive psychological advantage over Killian - he's absolutely crazy, clearly has no fear of death and doesn't hesitate to kill an opponent (in unusual and gruesome ways if necessary).

While Killian is a powerhouse, underneath all that he's still just a bitter nerd - Drax has a heart of gold....but he's also total lunatic, willing to jump inside a huge monster and try and cut his way out and rip out part of a cyborg's brain with his bare hands.


I see the fight going a little like this.....

Killian beats Drax savagely and burns him with his heat powers (although we know from GOTG that he's reasonably heat resistant). Drax cuts him a bunch of times, which heal quickly. Drax then realises that he'll have to take off something that Killian can't grow back and cuts off Killian's head or reaches down his throat grabs his heart and pulls it out.

Also, Drax has something else that Killian doesn't - family. If Killian ever got the upper hand and it looked like he was going to kill Drax, then the rest of the GOTG would step in and take Killian down - maybe they'd drop a planet on him, or Rocket would build some giant space cannon to disintigrate him (although Groot would be in big trouble against Killian).

Having said that, power alone isn't everything - while Rocket Raccoon may lack the physical power to take on Killian directly, no doubt he'd whip up some amazing gadget to neutralize Killian's powers and take him down - Rocket is a crafty little bugger and (like Drax) not afraid to kill an opponent (he's much more ruthless than Tony Stark).

As far as your power tiers go, personally I would rank MCU Scarlet Witch a lot higher, at least in the next tier.

Her psychic powers can affect physical things and can be used both offensively and defensively (and for limited levitation/flight) but she can also mess with an opponent's minds - I mean, in Age of Ultron she pretty much takes out Thor, Cap, Black Widow and Hulk single handed. MCU Vision is much more poweful than his comic book counterpart, but she takes him down with relative ease - she takes control of his powers and uses them against him (and he's got an infinity stone on his forehead).

In some ways Wanda is the most powerful Avenger, because nobody seems to be able to defend themselves against her mind-messing powers (except Hawkeye). Probably the one MCU character who could resist her powers would be Doctor Strange - and yeah, Dr Strange with the Eye of Agomotto pretty much beats anyone, I mean who could beat a guy who can create time loops ?

 

[Iceman]

Nice analysis above

 

[Surfer]

Uh oh Aldrich is pulling away!

And guys don't forget put what Tier group you think Drax and Killian belong to in your posts.

Looks like Drax might be trying to make a comeback. Still a lot of time to vote between now and Sunday.

Surfer

 

[BigThor]

Okay, here's how I see it going down.

Yes, Killian is probably stronger, has his heat-related powers and regeneration - so that's a couple of physical advantages.

Drax, well probably not as strong, but extremely tough. ( he was strong enough to fight and kill Korath, who withstood blasts from Star Lord's guns without any lasting injury).

However, Drax has a massive psychological advantage over Killian - he's absolutely crazy, clearly has no fear of death and doesn't hesitate to kill an opponent (in unusual and gruesome ways if necessary).

While Killian is a powerhouse, underneath all that he's still just a bitter nerd - Drax has a heart of gold....but he's also total lunatic, willing to jump inside a huge monster and try and cut his way out and rip out part of a cyborg's brain with his bare hands.


I see the fight going a little like this.....

Killian beats Drax savagely and burns him with his heat powers (although we know from GOTG that he's reasonably heat resistant). Drax cuts him a bunch of times, which heal quickly. Drax then realises that he'll have to take off something that Killian can't grow back and cuts off Killian's head or reaches down his throat grabs his heart and pulls it out.

Also, Drax has something else that Killian doesn't - family. If Killian ever got the upper hand and it looked like he was going to kill Drax, then the rest of the GOTG would step in and take Killian down - maybe they'd drop a planet on him, or Rocket would build some giant space cannon to disintigrate him (although Groot would be in big trouble against Killian).

Having said that, power alone isn't everything - while Rocket Raccoon may lack the physical power to take on Killian directly, no doubt he'd whip up some amazing gadget to neutralize Killian's powers and take him down - Rocket is a crafty little bugger and (like Drax) not afraid to kill an opponent (he's much more ruthless than Tony Stark).

As far as your power tiers go, personally I would rank MCU Scarlet Witch a lot higher, at least in the next tier.

Her psychic powers can affect physical things and can be used both offensively and defensively (and for limited levitation/flight) but she can also mess with an opponent's minds - I mean, in Age of Ultron she pretty much takes out Thor, Cap, Black Widow and Hulk single handed. MCU Vision is much more poweful than his comic book counterpart, but she takes him down with relative ease - she takes control of his powers and uses them against him (and he's got an infinity stone on his forehead).

In some ways Wanda is the most powerful Avenger, because nobody seems to be able to defend themselves against her mind-messing powers (except Hawkeye). Probably the one MCU character who could resist her powers would be Doctor Strange - and yeah, Dr Strange with the Eye of Agomotto pretty much beats anyone, I mean who could beat a guy who can create time loops ?

To be fair, she snuck up on The Avengers while Quicksilver and Ultron's robots destracted them, it was part of their plan. She has to physically touch you to mess with your mind and I doubt characters with long range powers like Iron Man or Thor would let her do that.

I feel it was more of a plot device thing so that Hulk and Iron Man could have their one on one.

 

[Surfer]

To be fair, she snuck up on The Avengers while Quicksilver and Ultron's robots destracted them, it was part of their plan. She has to physically touch you to mess with your mind and I doubt characters with long range powers like Iron Man or Thor would let her do that.

I feel it was more of a plot device thing so that Hulk and Iron Man could have their one on one.

I agree! Also I see Scarlet Witch as in the process of learning her powers, which was evident in Captain America Civil War when Cross Bones was sent up into the air and the building was destroyed and people were injured and killed. So, I am not sure she has reached her full potential much in the same way that I see Dr. Strange as not yet reaching the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme. So, will they reach the tiers in the Movies that you feel they should be at. Most likely. Are they there yet. I don't think they are.

Surfer

 

[BigThor]

I agree! Also I see Scarlet Witch as in the process of learning her powers, which was evident in Captain America Civil War when Cross Bones was sent up into the air and the building was destroyed and people were injured and killed. So, I am not sure she has reached her full potential much in the same way that I see Dr. Strange as not yet reaching the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme. So, will they reach the tiers in the Movies that you feel they should be at. Most likely. Are they there yet. I don't think they are.

Surfer

Agreed

 

[Surfer]

Agreed and this battle has only been up for two days and has the same amount of votes as the last battle after 7 days..

Progress

Yeah, some of the methods we are using are definitely bringing more awareness to the battles and you can see the results of more people participating already. It's great!

Surfer

 

[Spiderine]

Drax has been very unimpressive so far in two films. His "skills" seem very limited. His moves slow. How he got the "destroyer" nickname is beyond me.

Wouldn't surprise me if his enemy ran up behind him with a steel chair he would be down for the count. Just like WWE. I vote Killian.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Uh oh Aldrich is pulling away!

And guys don't forget put what Tier group you think Drax and Killian belong to in your posts.

Sorry. I'd put them both in Top Tier.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Both top tier for sure. Same tier as Iron Man.

I am surprised Killian is winning. Would this also imply Iron Man is also capable of beating Drax?

idk about that. The dude ripped a robot in half with his bare hands.