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MCU Fight: Ebony Maw vs Scarlet Witch

MCU Fight: Ebony Maw Vs. Scarlet Witch

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We will be doing VS. battles for the MCU every week and will be using the Winners and Losers to create an accurate power tier list created by some of it's biggest fans (you). So don't forget to VOTE and after voting for a Winner please include a comment on which power tier, both the Winner and Loser should reside within. Also, see below for more details on the characters abilities as well as for a list of available power tiers to choose from.

Don't forget to put which Tier group you think Ebony Maw and Scarlet Witch belong to in your posts. :up:

So, without further delay here is this week's match up, P.S. this was Jaqua99's battle he just was too busy so I put it together for him.



EBONY MAW vs SCARLET WITCH

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EBONY MAW

- Telekinesis: Ebony Maw was able move and otherwise manipulate objects to his whim to an immense degree, employing this power offensively, able to swiftly send Iron Man flying skyward, to knock aside Spider-Man by sending a billboard flying into him, to angle away the trajectory of Cull Obsidianafter the latter was sent flying at him. His precision with his power was enoug to allow him to cleanly slice apart a car hurled at him, and to sculpt sharpened spikes out of debris, before launching it at the combined might of Doctor Strange and Wong, defeating both sorcerers rather quickly. Though not very impressive, Maw was also able to use his telekinesis to restrain a half-beaten to death Thor with panels from the walls of the Statesman. He was also able to manipulate the environment to hinder Doctor Strange's escape, managing to defeat the sorcerer again and knock him out, making use of several structures in the vacinity, such as stop lights.

- Levitation: Ebony Maw could use his telekinesis to levitate, occasionally using this skill as a means of transportation, even able to make himself hover upside-down. He was also able to telekinetically take people with him while levitating himself, as seen when he lifted Doctor Strange into the air against a wall.

- Master Torturer: Ebony Maw was highly trained in various methods of torture. He was able to torture Doctor Strange with the goal of getting him to deliver the Time Stone, although Strange was able to withstand the torture through his willpower.


SCARLET WITCH

Psionic Energy Manipulation: Maximoff can project energy blasts, streams, waves and bolts projecting her own psionic and telekinetic energy, allowing her to hit, push/pull or blow away her targets, potentially exerting enough force to destroy them. This energy manifests in any shape and form, outlining her telekinetic spheres of influence, as the energy is visible in a reddish color. When a target of hers is hit with her energy, she can use her telekinesis to inflict further damage. Maximoff unleashed a wave of reddish aura that tore apart and disintegrated surrounding Ultron's Sentries heal/aid allies as she was seen to have been patching up Vision's wound from Corvus Glaive. Wanda’s powers grew so strong that she was able to destroy the Mind Stone, and simultaneously hold back the Titan Thanos.

- Levitation: Maximoff was able to use this power to move herself through the air and simulate flight, in order to hover and safely float back to the ground. The use of this power manifests as a blast of psionic energy expelled from her hands onto the ground to propel herself up in the air. It operates more like a enhanced leap similarly to Hulk, thanks to the force of gravity pushing her down. Wanda’s power over time grew from a leap, to full-fledged soaring through the air.

- Psionic Force-Field Generation: Maximoff was able to create a highly durable barrier of energy that she can shape and deform as she needed to. The barrier could be broken through extreme brute force, as the Sentries were able to eventually break it. It appeared that her energy was able to take control over the stone's energies, allowing her manipulate his density shifting abilities, as the Mind Stone on Vision's forehead turned red, causing him to become heavy enough to break through several stories. Wanda's telekinesis is powerful enough to break through Vibranium, as she managed to rip open the chest of Ultron's damaged primary body to summon his central processor to her hand, and was even strong enough to shatter an Infinity Stone. She was also able to stop a massive line of spinning saws and redirect them at an attacking alien army.

- Telepathy: Maximoff can read minds or mentally communicate and experience memories and thoughts of others or project her own thoughts through a neuro-electric interface that gives her telepathy. While she was using her hypnotic powers in conjunction with this power against the Avengers in South Africa, she herself viewed the Avengers' memories. When using her power, her irises sometimes glow a dark reddish color, especially when she concentrate it on certain targets.

- Mental Manipulation: Maximoff was able to deploy a form of mental manipulation, often as a type of illusory hypnosis, using the same neuro-electric interface that allows her telepathy. She was able to use this ability to cripple the Avengers, forcing them each to recall the darker events of their pasts and were put inside daydream-like visions of them that subdued them. When this ability is in use, Maximoff's reddish energy takes a more mist-like form, floating into the head of the victim in the form of neurons. The effects also distort the victim's iris coloration, causing them to shine a dark reddish color. This also allows her to control other people's actions, as she did with a considerable number of civilians in Sokovia to aid in their evacuation.


*****Below is the list of power tiers to choose from. Please select a power tier for each character doing battle (the characters below in Red are not in any particular order). Be aware both characters can share the same power tier*****

The character's current statuses below are as follows

BLUE CHARACTERS = OFFICIAL FINAL PLACEMENT FOR CHARACTERS
GREEN CHARACTERS = OFFICIAL TRANSITIONAL PLACMENT FOR CHARACTERS FIGHTING UP THE TIER LIST
ORANGE CHARACTERS = OFFICIAL TRANSITIONAL PLACMENT FOR CHARACTERS FIGHTING DOWN THE TIER LIST
RED CHARACTERS = UNOFFICIAL SPECULATIVE PLACEMENT FOR CHARACTERS

*****NOTE: Characters that are OFFICIAL will always be Placed above characters that are UNOFFICIAL.*****


Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Eson The Searcher with Infinity Stone
Surtur Prime
Ego The Living Planet
Odin
Doctor Strange (w/ Time Gem)
Thanos (w/ Filled Infinity Gauntlet)

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Hela
Ronan with the Power Stone
Kurse
Fenris
Ultron Prime (Vibranium)
Thanos (No Gauntlet)

Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Thor
Vision
Hulk
Doctor Strange
Ghost Rider
Hulkbuster Iron Man
Abomination
Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur
Malekith (W/ reality gem)
Ancient One
The Destroyer Armor
Giant Man
Kaecilius
Cull Obsidian

Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Valkyrie
Iron Man
Aldrich Killian
Drax the Destroyer
Ronan
Loki
Iron Monger
Whiplash
War Machine
Quake
Malekith
Heimdall
Sif
Hogun
Fandral
Volstagg
Korath The Pursuer
Groot
Killgrave
Yondu
Lash
Hive
Frigga
Pepper Potts with Extremis
Mantis
Skurge
Korg
Baron Mordo
Master Wong
Corvus Glaive

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Black Panther
Captain America
Gamora
Spiderman
Winter Soldier
Vulture
Red Skull
Crossbones
Falcon
Quicksilver
Starlord
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Eric Savin (Extremis Soldier)
Ellen Brandt (Extremis Soldier)
Emil Blonsky (Super Soldier)
Madame Gao
Mr. Hyde
Slingshot
Aida
Raina
Deathlok
The Patriot
Carl Creed the Absorbing Man
Lorelei
Nebula
Miek
Ant Man
Yellow Jacket
Proxima Midnight
Erik Killmonger
Ulysses Klaue

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil
Black Widow
Rocket Racoon
Hawkeye
Elektra
Punisher
Coleen Wing
Batroc the Leaper
Shocker
Kingpin
Nobu
Diamondback
Bakuto
Peggy Carter
Sharon Carter Agent 13
Dum Dum Dugan
Mocking Bird
Maria Hill
Misty Knight
The Punisher
Nick Fury
Phil Coulson
Zemo
Jig Saw
M'Baku
Okoye
Shuri
 
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[blackout]Wanda has the power to win this, no doubt. But she got owned when in solo combat basically by every Black Order member. She still is a raw talent, so Maw wins.[/blackout]
 
Scarlet Witch gets my vote.

Maw restrained a half beaten to death Thor, ragdolled Bleeding Edge Iron Man, seemed pretty confident fighting Dr Strange and Wong at the same time and then beat Strange by restraining him before he could cast his next spell (I do think he'd lose a rematch). All good feats and he was probably capable of more but I guess we'll never know.

In AoU Wanda mentally manipulated the Avengers, stopped a runaway train, mind controlled hundreds of people into evacuating Sokovia, destroyed a hell of a lot of Ultron bots and tore open Ultron Prime's (admittedly already damaged) vibranium to finish him off. She got the better of Vision and Iron Man in Civil War and held up a collapsing airport tower. In Infinity War she showed a lot of skill against the Black Order, threw colossal war machines into the air, held back Thanos one handed for about ten seconds and destroyed an Infinity Stone.

Skill wise it might be pretty close but power wise it's a clear win for Scarlet Witch.

They both seem to be glass cannons though so it might just come down to who's quickest or gets a lucky shot past the other one's defenses.
 
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Yeah I've seen people bring up
Maw restraining Thor as some indication that he's on Thor's level, lmao Thor was a shell of himself at that point (because of injury).

Oh and yep, Ebony Maw and Scarlet Witch are definitely both glass cannons.
 
Wanda has the power to win this, no doubt. But she got owned when in solo combat basically by every Black Order member. She still is a raw talent, so Maw wins.

The way I remember it she owned Proxima Midnight twice and ragdolled Corvus Glaive once. If Team Cap hadn't showed up I wouldn't have bet against her taking them both on.


Yeah I've seen people bring up
Maw restraining Thor as some indication that he's on Thor's level, lmao Thor was a shell of himself at that point (because of injury).

Oh and yep, Ebony Maw and Scarlet Witch are definitely both glass cannons.

Yeah, that's my take on that scene too.
I don't think it even comes close to Wanda's restraining Thanos feat
Off the top of my head Wanda has a lot of feats of conjuring shields out of nowhere to save herself from attacks/fall damage by now but yeah, definitely a glass cannon if anyone above street level gets the drop on her. Maw seemed the same but without the shields.
 
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Ebony May is ruthless and a veteran. Scarlet Witch is still learning her craft and improving from film to film. She has more potential and is growing in experience quickly. At the time of this fight (assuming it takes place at the same time as IW is set) I'd give the edge to EM but it won't be long before SW surpasses him.
 
Ebony May is ruthless and a veteran. Scarlet Witch is still learning her craft and improving from film to film. She has more potential and is growing in experience quickly. At the time of this fight (assuming it takes place at the same time as IW is set) I'd give the edge to EM but it won't be long before SW surpasses him.

He's definitely got the advantage in ruthlessness and experience. Skillwise I don't think it's clear cut enough to make up for Wanda's massive advantage in raw power.
Maw can outright fly as opposed to power assisted jumps/hovering and his telekinesis can do detailed things like turn bricks into stone arrows or use random cables to tie up Strange/debris to restrain a battered Thor. Wanda has way better feats fighting in close quarters and taking on physical powerhouses though plus she's got a whole mindreading/mind control skillset Maw's lacking

Since they're both glass cannons Wanda's ability to conjure powerful shields out of nothing to block attacks from all angles is a massive advantage. Maw on the other hand
had to levitate a car in front of himself to block Wong's portal redirecting shrapnel at him and he still got hit
 
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Thör-El;36610503 said:
He's definitely got the advantage in ruthlessness and experience. Skillwise I don't think it's clear cut enough to make up for Wanda's massive advantage in raw power.
Maw can outright fly as opposed to power assisted jumps/hovering and his telekinesis can do detailed things like turn bricks into stone arrows or use random cables to tie up Strange/debris to restrain a battered Thor. Wanda has way better feats fighting in close quarters and taking on physical powerhouses though plus she's got a whole mindreading/mind control skillset Maw's lacking

Since they're both glass cannons Wanda's ability to conjure powerful shields out of nothing to block attacks from all angles is a massive advantage. Maw on the other hand
had to levitate a car in front of himself to block Wong's portal redirecting shrapnel at him and he still got hit

Yes, good point on Wanda's methods for instant and effective defence.
 
I think post infinity war Wanda would squash Maw like a bug. Maw was definitely the most formidable of the Black Order and he certainly had some cool feats but nothing compared to what we saw Wanda do in Wakanda.
 
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Scarlet Witch gets my vote.

Maw restrained a half beaten to death Thor, ragdolled Bleeding Edge Iron Man, seemed pretty confident fighting Dr Strange and Wong at the same time and then beat Strange by restraining him before he could cast his next spell (I do think he'd lose a rematch). All good feats and he was probably capable of more but I guess we'll never know.

In AoU Wanda mentally manipulated the Avengers, stopped a runaway train, mind controlled hundreds of people into evacuating Sokovia, destroyed a hell of a lot of Ultron bots and tore open Ultron Prime's (admittedly already damaged) vibranium to finish him off. She got the better of Vision and Iron Man in Civil War and held up a collapsing airport tower. In Infinity War she showed a lot of skill against the Black Order, threw colossal war machines into the air, held back Thanos one handed for about ten seconds and destroyed an Infinity Stone.

Skill wise it might be pretty close but power wise it's a clear win for Scarlet Witch.

They both seem to be glass cannons though so it might just come down to who's quickest or gets a lucky shot past the other one's defenses.


Good match up. Between them they'd destroy a city.

But I agree with the above post.

Also Maw likes to taunt and play with his enemies, a fatal error against Wanda.

Where I see Maw really coming unstuck is if Wanda gets angry, because then her power really flares up. If she's pissed off, she tears him apart. If he threatened Vision or
Cap or Hawkeye she'd drop a building on him.

However a surprise attack from either would be decisive.
 
Both are glass cannons, but I do not think Wanda's raw power is that much superior, in fact, I think it's inferior.

Maw is more ruthless, is clearly much more intelligent, strategic and practical in combat.

Furthermore, Maw's TK is VASTLY superior to Wanda's. Wanda has done more, but Maw has more control, and he is MUCH faster in his employment of TK.

Also, Cull Obsian was launched at him pretty fast, and Maw flung him aside with a casual gesture. Maw is quite literally capable of rag dolling Cull, as well as Hulk. Given how casual that feat was, what could he do if he strained himself? I think Wanda's TK showing in Wakanda is not that out of the question.

The question is, with Maw and Wanda squared up, who gets the drop? Who is faster? The answer to that is Maw. way quicker in his use of TK, as well as it more organic. Wanda couldn't beat Proxima and Corvus by herself, due to her inexperience, and her durability.

Maw get's the drop on her, and ragdolls her, or restrains her with whatever material is near by, and KO's her.

Lets not forget how powerful strange was in this movie. Superior to Wanda, and
Maw beat him. Flat out KO'd him. Choked him out unconscious, rather casually

I wouldn't consider this a stomp, but I don't think it's a close fight either. In a random encounter where they both are squaring off, Wanda has nothing she can do to Maw before he starts his TK assault. Assuming she throws blasts, and he throws his little spikes, she'd block them. He'd realize she's a witch, he'd adjust accordingly.

I think he'd hold her down at that point like he did to strange, and either choke her out, or rag doll her, and mock her powers.


Wanda is outclassed here IMO. Maw was very impressive.

Both powerhouse tier IMO.


Make sure to vote what tier each character is in guys! This both Maw's and SW's first battle, so their tier placement is literally up to you guys.
 
Ebony May is ruthless and a veteran. Scarlet Witch is still learning her craft and improving from film to film. She has more potential and is growing in experience quickly. At the time of this fight (assuming it takes place at the same time as IW is set) I'd give the edge to EM but it won't be long before SW surpasses him.
Agreed 100%.
 
Both are glass cannons, but I do not think Wanda's raw power is that much superior, in fact, I think it's inferior.

The Maw is more ruthless, is clearly much more intelligent, strategic and practical in combat.

Furthermore, Maw's TK is VASTLY superior to Wanda's. Wanda has done more, but Maw has more control, and he is MUCH faster in his employment of TK.

Also, Cull Obsian was launched at him pretty fast, and Maw flung him aside with a casual gesture. Maw is quite literally capable of rag dolling Cull, as well as Hulk. Given how casual that feat was, what could he do if he strained himself? I think Wanda's TK showing in Wakanda is not that out of the question.

The question is, with Maw and Wanda squared up, who gets the drop? Who is faster? The answer to that is Maw. way quicker in his use of TK, as well as it more organic. Wanda couldn't beat Proxima and Corvus by herself, due to her inexperience, and her durability.

Maw get's the drop on her, and ragdolls her, or restrains her with whatever material is near by, and KO's her.

Lets not forget how powerful strange was in this movie. Superior to Wanda, and
Maw beat him. Flat out KO'd him. Choked him out unconscious, rather casually

I wouldn't consider this a stomp, but I don't think it's a close fight either. In a random encounter where they both are squaring off, Wanda has nothing she can do to Maw before he starts his TK assault. Assuming she throws blasts, and he throws his little spikes, she'd block them. He'd realize she's a witch, he'd adjust accordingly.

I think he'd hold her down at that point like he did to strange, and either choke her out, or rag doll her, and mock her powers.


Wanda is outclassed here IMO. Maw was very impressive.

Both powerhouse tier IMO.


Make sure to vote what tier each character is in guys! This both Maw's and SW's first battle, so their tier placement is literally up to you guys.

Maw was indeed extremely impressive., second only to Thanos and Thor.

Cull Obsidian was impressive too, he beat the tar out of "suped up" Iron Man and Spider-Man in New York and went toe to toe with the Hulkbuster in Wakanda.
 
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The Maw takes this. He was able to beat Doctor Strange, he has more than enough skill to defeat the raw Scarlet Witch.
 
I think witch has more powers and is more powerful but Maw has effortless control over his powers I give 5 his to maw and put them both in the highest end of powerhouse
 
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Thör-El;36610503 said:
He's definitely got the advantage in ruthlessness and experience. Skillwise I don't think it's clear cut enough to make up for Wanda's massive advantage in raw power.
Maw can outright fly as opposed to power assisted jumps/hovering and his telekinesis can do detailed things like turn bricks into stone arrows or use random cables to tie up Strange/debris to restrain a battered Thor. Wanda has way better feats fighting in close quarters and taking on physical powerhouses though plus she's got a whole mindreading/mind control skillset Maw's lacking

Since they're both glass cannons Wanda's ability to conjure powerful shields out of nothing to block attacks from all angles is a massive advantage. Maw on the other hand
had to levitate a car in front of himself to block Wong's portal redirecting shrapnel at him and he still got hit


I agree. Maw shows some skill and precision but he's no match for Wanda's power. Also SW has plenty of precision feats eg removing a cloud of gas from a building, holding a knife in front of Hawkeye's face, temporarily containing an explosion......and as for power feats, holding off Thanos with 5 infinty stones. Her power is more than just telekinesis, the way she manipulates that red energy its more like the way Green Lantern creates objects and energy blasts with the green plasma from his ring.

I think folks are also overlooking that her emotions affect her powers and can cause them to flare up with immense destructive effect- and unlike Strange she doesn't need to gesture ( when Quicksilver is killed in AoU a wave of power emanates from her and disintegrating all the nearby Ultron drones.

Maw beat Strange by preventing him from casting spells, that wont work on Wanda. While she usually does gesture, she's also demonstrated that she can use her powers without doing so.

Besides, Maw likes to almost talk his enemies to death, IMO he mouths off, Wanda gets angry and crushes his squiddy little head.

Also, just saw IW again and none of Maw's feats come close to Wanda's not even remotely. She takes 2 blasts from Proxima Midnight's staff , one of which sends her dlying through a window, and she gets up to kick ass.

Again, destroying the mind stone while holding off Thanos, with 5 stones......yeah, more than ever I'm convinced that Wanda takes this.
 
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I agree. Maw shows some skill and precision but he's no match for Wanda's power. Also SW has plenty of precision feats eg removing a cloud of gas from a building, holding a knife in front of Hawkeye's face, temporarily containing an explosion......and as for power feats, holding off Thanos with 5 infinty stones. Her power is more than just telekinesis, the way she manipulates that red energy its more like the way Green Lantern creates objects and energy blasts with the green plasma from his ring.

I think folks are also overlooking that her emotions affect her powers and can cause them to flare up with immense destructive effect- and unlike Strange she doesn't need to gesture ( when Quicksilver is killed in AoU a wave of power emanates from her and disintegrating all the nearby Ultron drones.

Maw beat Strange by preventing him from casting spells, that wont work on Wanda. While she usually does gesture, she's also demonstrated that she can use her powers without doing so.

Besides, Maw likes to almost talk his enemies to death, IMO he mouths off, Wanda gets angry and crushes his squiddy little head.

Also, just saw IW again and none of Maw's feats come close to Wanda's not even remotely. She takes 2 blasts from Proxima Midnight's staff , one of which sends her dlying through a window, and she gets up to kick ass.

Again, destroying the mind stone while holding off Thanos, with 5 stones......yeah, more than ever I'm convinced that Wanda takes this.

Tough to quantify. The movie made it clear Wanda's powers are a plot device in terms of how she matches up to the infinity stones. Not raw power.

Strange and Thor have more "raw" power. Wanda's powers just fit the plot better. Maw seemed more impressive, seeing the movie 4 times now. The effortless use of TK was very impressive
 
Please provide the tier everyone. Maw has yet to be placed and Wanda's tier may change
 
Tough to quantify. The movie made it clear Wanda's powers are a plot device in terms of how she matches up to the infinity stones. Not raw power.

Strange and Thor have more "raw" power. Wanda's powers just fit the plot better. Maw seemed more impressive, seeing the movie 4 times now. The effortless use of TK was very impressive

I had the day off and my wife is out of town, so I saw IW, twice back to back - still awesome BTW ( what stands out more each time was how good the characterisation of Thanos was)

However, back to the topic at hand. Effortless TK looks cute.

Plot devices you say. While Wanda's ability to destroy the mind stone could be considered a plot device, it doesn't change the fact that she's enormously powerful in general.

Wanda took out the a bunch of giant rolling wheels of death with little effort, and again destroying an infinity stone while holding off Thanos at the same time while he had 5 stones in the gauntlet - if that aint raw power, what is ? Maw's Tk feats, while precise, don't have anywhere near that level of power.

Thanos trying to force his way forward and not getting very far ( and he walked through the rest of the Avengers) isnt a plot device - unless Wanda has a special "slow Thanos down" ability, that would be a plot device.

Similarly she doesnt have a particular ability that's effective against giant rolling death wheels ( which would be a plot device), she's just massively powerful.

After repeat viewings I'm more impressed by Wanda's feats, rather than Maw's.
 
Thanos wasn't using any of the Infinity Stones (definitely not all 5) while walking through Wanda's force field and he just used physical strength and didn't seem to struggle very much. He did it much easier than people are making it out to be, it only slowed him down a little bit.

Also upon further viewings Wanda was getting trounced by Proxima Midnight for most of their first fight. Even after she defeated Proxima with Black Widow and Okoye she fell to the ground visibly drained.

Her power seem more impressive against hordes of enemies and objects like those giant wheels. Her actual combat prowess kind of sucks considering how much power she has. She also seems to get weaker and physically drained after constant use of her powers.
 
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Thanos wasn't using any of the Infinity Stones (definitely not all 5) while walking through Wanda's force field and he just used physical strength and didn't seem to struggle very much. He did it much easier than people are making it out to be, it only slowed him down a little bit.

Also upon further viewings Wanda was getting trounced by Proxima Midnight for most of their first fight. Even after she defeated Proxima with Black Widow and Okoye she fell to the ground visibly drained.

Her power seem more impressive against hordes of enemies and objects like those giant wheels. Her actual combat prowess kind of sucks considering how much power she has. She also seems to get weaker and physically drained after constant use of her powers.

I think that is just down to inexperience. She's not using her powers to their fullest extent, still being a novice with them and being affected by already causing innocent deaths by accident while using them in CW.
 
Still a novice after 3 films though, when will her being a novice end?

Geez
 
Still a novice after 3 films though, when will her being a novice end?

Geez

She's made big steps forward in this film at least. Taking on the Black Order gave her experience against good opponents (killing one later) while she used her powers to a much greater extent in the main battle than we've seen before. If one of the more experienced guys had done something by mistake early in their development that resulted in a lot of innocent civilians dying I think they too would have their development hampered by it. Her power has such huge potential that it needs to be handled with kid gloves early on, a bit like Xavier's or Phoenix.
 

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