Marvel Films MCU Phase IV!

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Think we will definitely see Guardians of the Galaxy 3, as it is the cosmic tentpole of the franchise, will also probably see more movies relating to that part of the universe - maybe a sequel to Captain Marvel if it does well.

Personally think Thor and Captain America will be taking a break and skip Phase 4 like Iron Man will in Phase 3, and maybe even Iron Man himself due to his participation in Civil War. Maybe a Hulk film, but I think the studio has reservations on a Hulk solo and I think he works much better in an ensemble.

Doctor Strange will definitely see a sequel because it opens so many new doors in the universe and Feige seems to love the character. We'll probably see Black Panther sequel as well because of his increased participation over Phase 3.

In terms of new characters I really want to see Namor + Atlantis if they can get over the rights issues. Would be great to see Punisher and Moon Knight on a Netflix Show too.

 

[0604854]

I would sort of combine the Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts story lines and here is why:

The start is basically the same villains posing as heroes, Norman Osborn could not feature as Iron Patriot (unless the rights go back to marvel) but instead Zemo as Citizen V would be a good substitute which is equally patriotic.

The motives of Zemo may be to discredit Avengers or get close to the Avengers (to get info from Jarvis that he can use), as the Thunderbolt's are eventually uncovered this leads to all out battle between the "Masters of Evil" and the Avengers (which the Avengers lose), but seeing what Zemo has planned some of the Thunderbolts turn against Zemo and join the Avengers to fight Zemo and he's Masters of evil.

Opinions please.....

 

[Eggyman]

I love when paths cross. The comics I remember as a kid had Spidey and the F4 or Spidey trying to stop a rampaging Hulk. I can only imagine that the current Hulk could one day have Spidey on his shoulder.

 

[0604854]

The question is what the Phase 4 avengers movie focus on, with Thanos gone their is no one at the moment to be the big bad, I would look at Mephisto as the Phase 4 to possibly phase 6 Villian, Al Pacino would be my pick to play him (although Bill Nighy would also be good) but as a demon he can easily switch bodies and actors when and if we need him too.

It could lead to House of M (M for Mephisto instead) where he drives Scarlett Witch insane and then has he's wish come true (he rules the Earth as head of Hydra, possibily with other demons as well).

 

[zest]

I would like a Western Possible Kid colt or TWO gun kid as something differnt

 

[fixxxer]

My assumptions are that the Spidey situation gets worked out soon with a co-production deal and the Fantastic Four rights come back in the next couple of years via buy-out.

2019 Jul: Dr. Strange 2
2019 Nov: Ant-Man And Wasp
2020 May: Marvel's Spider-Man
2020 Jul: Black Panther 2
2020 Nov: The Indestructible Hulk
2021 May: Fantastic Four
2021 Jul: Annihilation (featuring GOTG, Captain Marvel and Nova)
2021 Nov: Blade/Ghost Rider Team-up Movie
2022 May: Avengers 4: The Coming Of Galactus

Notes and Miscellany:
1. For Phase 5, I'd kick things off with Midnight Sons. We've already built up the supernatural side of things with, up to this point, two Dr. Strange movies, Blade and Ghost Rider. Add in Moon Knight (who, hopefully, will have a Netflix series by this point) and a few supporting hero characters, and we're good to go.

2. Note that the lack of the "big three" in Phase 4 is intentional. The flagship franchises (and especially the actors) could use a break and come back in Phase 5 revitalized (actors, production crew and audience alike) and rearing to go.

3. After the TV show winds up, I would've loved to include a (new)SHIELD type movie for Phase 4 featuring the TV cast and focusing on Hawkeye and Black Widow as (new)SHIELD's "newest" recruits. However, I think this would work in Phase 5 as well. After the show completes its run, Coulson's (new)SHIELD could slowly be worked into the movies.

4. The Annihilation movie requires a bit of an explanation. GOTG 3 was pretty much a given, as was a Captain Marvel sequel. My thinking was, what if we could combine the two, sprinkle a little Nova and turn it into an absolute Marvel Cosmic event film?

 

[A Necessary Evil]

We need a Hulk movie in P4. If not, then just abandon all hope for that franchise.

 

[0604854]

We need a Hulk movie in P4. If not, then just abandon all hope for that franchise.

Marvel do not own the distribution rights to Hulk solo movies so would have to give a huge chunk of the profits away, that is why we are not seeing a Hulk solo movie.

 

[FortyMedusa]

I know I'm gonna shock everyone here but I don't want a phase IV. But before you bludgeon me to death. I do want a Phase IV but not immediately after Phase III maybe after a year or two. I'm just worried about over saturating the marketing and what affect that may have on the quality of the films.

 

[Lord]

I know I'm gonna shock everyone here but I don't want a phase IV. But before you bludgeon me to death. I do want a Phase IV but not immediately after Phase III maybe after a year or two. I'm just worried about over saturating the marketing and what affect that may have on the quality of the films.

That would be unlikely, the 2 years wait i mean, oversaturation will eventualy happen, but until then, Marvel will keep going with their strategy, i doubt they'll drop the quality, i think they're being very careful with that.

As for oversaturation, i think other studios will most likely be affected first.

 

[CK Spider]

I think we'll have to wait and see if Marvel Studios suceeds at making a deal with Sony for Spidey. That would absolutely affect Phase IV plans. I can see him appearing first in a New Avengers movie (or maybe even Infinity Wars, as rumoured) and then having his own franchise, possibly skiping his origin.

Another thing I'm almost sure will play a big part in Phase IV is the space angle. Between GOTG 3 (almost certainly) and Inhumans 2 (possibly), we should have a big focus on space. Maybe even the next event is totally space-based.

Also, I'm curious what they'll do with the big three. I wouldn't mind if they're not in Phase IV at all, but some would argue recasting is better. I wonder if Marvel is considering bringing Thor as a woman. I could dig that, if done well. Bucky-Cap or maybe even Falcon-Cap are some serious possibilities, too.

Well, guess we'll have to wait and see. GOTG 3 is probably the most assured thing we have. Sequels for Doc Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Inhumans and Ant-Man are probably being discussed aswell. The rest is pretty much open.

 

[Dasher10]

I feel like Phase 4 should be the breather Phase after Infinity War, then have things go crazy during the finale. I also feel like we'll be getting more Spider-Man films per phase than any other character since Sony is funding them. Marvel would also be smart to start releasing films in the first three months of the year which could either be made on a low budget or require an R-rating since there would be less competition. Sony will also probably do Spider-Man spin-offs for years when there isn't a Spider-Man film.


IMO

November 2019 - Spider-Man: The Death of Jean DeWolff (Black Costume. Sin Eater as villain. Loses costume at the end.)

Early 2020 - Black Widow: Homecoming

May 2020 - Iron Man: Armor Wars

July 2020: Incredible Hulk: Ghosts of the Past

October 2020 - Captain America: Two Americas

December 2020 - Black Cat

Early 2021 - Ghost Rider

May 2021 - Guardians of the Galaxy: Conquest (Nova and Moondragon join the team)

July 2021 - Spider-Man: Venom

October 2021 - Thor: The Dark Gods

Early 2022 - Doctor Strange: Ascent Into Hell

May 2022 - Thunderbolts

July 2022 - Captain Marvel: Live Kree or Die

October 2022 - Black Panther - Gorilla Warfare

December 2022 - Silver Sable

Early 2023 - Inhumans 2 (I don't know their storylines all that well, mostly since they never interested me)

May 2023 - Mighty Avengers: Atlantis Attacks

July 2023 - Spider-Man: Maximum Carnage

October 2023 - West Coast Avengers: Kang Dynasty

Kang Dynasty would end with the Avengers managing overthrow Kang's rule of the Earth... but changing the timeline has made Norman Osborn director of SHIELD where he's now in a position to not only make his move against Spider-Man on Spider-Man but take down the Avengers once and for all.

Phase 5 would be an adaptation of Dark Reign. I can't think of dates yet but certain films which would occur would be

Iron Man: World's Most Wanted

Captain America: Prisoner of War

The Spider-Man films would be Adaptations of The Night Gwen Stacy Died, Ends of the Earth and and Kraven's Last Hunt.

Hulk: Code Red

Black Panther: Enemy of the State

Venom: Lethal Protector

Captain Marvel: War of the Marvels

Guardians of the Galaxy: Celestial Madonna (the lighthearted breather film which isn't anywhere near as dark)

Thunderbolts: Dark Avengers

Then culminate in Mighty Avengers: Seige where Norman Osborn invades Asgard to bring to an end the much, much darker Phase 5 and clear the way for a more optimistic Phase 6.

 

[SlamAdams]

Considering how Phase 3 ends (Carol Danvers becomes Capt. Marvel, Thanos makes a play for Earth and fails, and Inhumans bring it home becoming serious MCU players), I'm thinking it will all lead to Kree-Skrull War (even though I know Skrulls are kind of up in the air)

Phase 4

Fall 2019 - Guardians of the Galaxy 3 (repercussions of Thanos fight across the galaxy)

Early Summer 2020 - Spider-Man 2 (because Sony probably won't want too wait much longer)
Middle Summer 2020 - Thor 4 (my pitch: God-Butcher)
Fall 2020 - Doctor Strange 2 (my pitch: Tomb of Dracula/Blade teamup)

Early Summer 2021 - Captain America 4 (my pitch: New Avengers/Cap leading a roster shake-up)
Middle Summer 2021 - New character (my pitch: Fantastic Four reverted)
Fall 2021 - Black Panther 2

Early Summer 2022 - Captain Marvel 2
Fall 2022 - Inhumans 2
December 2022 - Avengers: Andromeda Swarm (Kree/Skrull War) If F4 hasn't reverted maybe just the Kree trying to grab Earth as a military outpost for the Kree/Skrull War holding that off for later.

 

[Lord]

Some previously key players might disappear before Phase IV.

http://collider.com/avengers-infinity-war-lineup-new-characters-phase-4/

My guess is that the main trio (Iron Man, Thor and Captain America) might die in Infinity War.

 

[meanmc]

(Finally) Dying would be a bad solution, because, if phase 4 does not work without them (Iron Man, Captain America and Thor), you have a problem.

Maybe they just talk about the Avengers itself - not about "them not being around elsewhere".

 

[SirStrangefolk]

Yeah, I'd say leading SHIELD/Stark Industries, ruling Asgard, etc. would be the better choices.

 

[MbJ]

Some previously key players might disappear before Phase IV.

http://collider.com/avengers-infinity-war-lineup-new-characters-phase-4/

Ballsy move if they can stick to it.

Of course it could be a cop-out and they just have a lesser character like Hawkeye retire to raise his kids.

 

[Godzillasaurus]

Though it is likely jut wishful thinking, it would be great to see an Ironman 4, under certain conditions... Should it be done like Ironman 3, I would have to say "no" to its production.

But the chances of it happening are VERY slim to begin with

 

[meanmc]

I think it is very tough to say, what Marvel (/Feige) plans for phase 4!
And all depends, how long phase 4 is...

If we see just 6-9 movies, 3 years, there could be a break for some (Thor and Chris Evans, not for RDJ because of his age), as we would have enough star-power (Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Spiderman, Ant-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers, Inhumans, Captain Marvel, Vision+Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, maybe also Hawkeye and Hulk... and some new faces)

If he plans "Secret Invasion", we will need all our heroes, but maybe no solo movies for some "big players". Maybe no real solo movies at all...

If Hulk is the villian, we also would need all our (old) heroes... but not in solo movies!

If they plan the phase around Spiderman, Iron Man will be there...

If he introduces the Illuminatis, we do not need "Iron Man 4", or the movie leads into The Illuminatis...

If the Fantastic Four come back, Iron Man will be around...

If he retires Cap, maybe Falcon or Bucky take the shield - that would be "Captain America 4"...

I think, Marvel needs to milk the cow as long as they can. We see already a overdose of Iron Man in the movies. And that will continue through phase 3.
And i do not believe, that we will not see "Iron Man 4".

There are only three heroes, who have trilogies. Feige said, that the Cap-trilogie is "the complete story".
But Captain America and Iron Man are their "top sellers". I can not believe, that we will not see them around for phase 4.
Also, because Feige said, that he will not send a new actor (for Iron Man) back to "an origin story"!

So it seems to me, that we maybe will see "Iron Man 4", but maybe no solo movies for Captain America or Thor (in phase 4).

Today, i would say, we will see the following movies for sure in phase 4:

Iron Man 4 (or Illuminatis)
Black Widow (maybe with someone, Hawkeye?)
Guardians of the Galaxy 3
Spiderman 2
Inhumans 2
Illuminatis (or Black Panther 2 and Dr. Strange 2)
Avengers
(Captain Marvel 2)
(Fantastic Four)
(Ant-Man and Wasp 3)

I do not see, that we lose Captain America, but maybe we will not see him in a solo movie. Maybe just with the Avengers.
I would not understand, if they do not tell the "Bucky/Falcon take the shield, Rogers comes back" story in phase 4.

I do not think, that they do nothing with the Hulk - but where does he fit? Just in a solo movie, or as villian for the Avengers or the Illuminatis.

Just with Thor it could be difficult. Maybe he joins the GotG in their new adventure.

Maybe we will lose Winter Soldier, War Machine and Falcon, because there is no need for them with the Avengers or Illuminatis. And if there would be no solo movies for Iron Man or Captain America, they do not need them as side-kicks...

But Mackie is to "good" and funny, to let him go...

 

[Lord]

Seeing things in perspective, yeah, i doubt all of the main three will die, but that happening to in least one of them and letting the others reform would make sense, and give the MCU a progression that the comics can't have.

Though it is likely jut wishful thinking, it would be great to see an Ironman 4, under certain conditions... Should it be done like Ironman 3, I would have to say "no" to its production.

But the chances of it happening are VERY slim to begin with

Meh, would love to see another fun Iron Man film like the 3rd one. Had problems but was done by a creative Director, tried new things and on the whole i actualy find it the most fun of all of the Marvel films so far (yeah, give me more of goons who are unexpectedly smart and have fun personalities than Star-Lord randomly dancing).

 

[NHawk19]

I guess the question is "where are they going in Phase IV?"

Phase 1 was the setup for everything
Phase 2 brought us the expanded worlds
Phase 3 is going to be where all the worlds collide.

What does that leave for Phase 4? Repercussion?

Then what after that should we just let several stories start down their individual paths for a while? Maybe some limited cross overs.

The next major event will have to top the Infinity Wars somehow and that's not going to be easy. They've been basically building to IF wars for 4 years to date and it'll be 6 by the time it comes to fruition.

 

[Lord]

They should probably try avoiding making something bigger than Infinity War, best way to go is trying to make the next stories better and generaly more impressive.

 

[MbJ]

They should probably try avoiding making something bigger than Infinity War, best way to go is trying to make the next stories better and generaly more impressive.

Agreed. I didn't like Age of Ultron and a lot of my problems stemmed from the studio deciding everything needed to be "bigger" than the first movie.

Just focus on telling a good story with a manageable amount of heroes and villains. Many bad comic book movie sequels make the same mistake of throwing in too many new characters just for the hell of it (Iron Man 2, Spider-Man 3, X-Men: The Last Stand, Batman and Robin, Blade: Trinity, X-Men Origins: Wolverine).

 

[NHawk19]

That's why I suggested just leaving the stories go down their individual paths for a while without the Avengers specifically. As much as I want a Galactus level threat I want them to hold off until it becomes appropriate.

 

[GoblinScrier]

Phases 4, 5, and 6 should have Doom as the all-encompassing threat once the rights revert to Marvel...that is how it should have been to begin with.