I don't think anyone in here has said that he isn't very powerful, he's clearly one of the most powerful characters in the MCU. I'm arguing that he's less powerful than Surtur, Odin and Hela from what I've read so far. I'll re-judge that position once I've seen Ragnarok. And he's clearly less powerful than Dormammu who is undoubtedly the most powerful character we've seen yet.
We haven't seen what Hela and Surtur can do so it's impossible to compare their power to anyone just yet. However, Ego was able to do things that we've not seen Odin match. For one thing, Ego was able to create his own form (his world-body) and countless living avatars. He had extensive control of matter and energy, even to the extent of controlling parts of himself across the universe and causing mass destruction through them. Ego clearly came close to wiping out all sentient life in the cosmos, which is something that Odin could never do. Even Hela (and Thanos) can't end all life yet, not without the Infinity Gauntlet, so Ego was more powerful than either of them.
We haven't seen what Hela and Surtur can do so it's impossible to compare their power to anyone just yet. However, Ego was able to do things that we've not seen Odin match. For one thing, Ego was able to create his own form (his world-body) and countless living avatars. He had extensive control of matter and energy, even to the extent of controlling parts of himself across the universe and causing mass destruction through them. Ego clearly came close to wiping out all sentient life in the cosmos, which is something that Odin could never do. Even Hela (and Thanos) can't end all life yet, not without the Infinity Gauntlet, so Ego was more powerful than either of them.
I agree with you 100%. I think people underestimate Ego's powers, partially due to them feeling that Ego's Avatar was Ego rather then just a portion of Ego that he had created. Ego was the brain that made and controlled everything on the planet into a living extension of himself and even created higher life forms to go across the universe to set up new worlds to take over. The Avatar was like a finger. As for the Guardians taking him down with explosives, well the Guardian's found a way in and got to the core and close enough to the brain to destroy it. It is almost like there are brain eating Amoebas in real life, but they can only get into your brain through your nose. The Amoebas are easily killed by humans using salt water or chlorine in a swimming pool, so not tough to kill. Also, they can't go through peoples skin, they can be swallowed without killing people, I don't even think if they enter the blood stream it is a problem. It is only a problem when they enter through the nose and travel through the olfactory nerve to enter the brain. So, my point is that we as Humans I feel could kill these things off easily meaning we are more powerful, but if not suspected and under the right circumstances they can still kill humans. This is my analogy for Guardian's of the Galaxy being able to destroy Ego.
I am happy to announce that BigThor will be joining Jaqua99 and myself as a partner and collaborater for the Vs. matches and the power tier list. So, welcome BigThor me and jaqua99 are glad to have you on board.
Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Surtur
Doctor Strange (with time gem..reality hack)
Ego (seems bigger than those others in power level)
Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Odin
Eson The Searcher (w/power gem)
Ronan (w/power gem)
Malekith (With reality gem. Thor wasn't going to beat him in combat)
Thanos (I'm guessing will fall here)
Hela
Ultron Prime (his vibranium body made this an implication)
Kaecilius (with dark dimension powers)
Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Thor
Kurse
Heimdall (if not higher)
Doctor Strange
Ancient One
Scarlet Witch (so far)
Vision
Hulk (stamina and strength make up for lack in versatility)
Blonsky (post-Hulk serum)
Hulkbuster Iron Man
Ultron mk2
The Destroyer
Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Ronan
Loki (w/ or w/out scepter)
Iron Man
Malekith
Quicksilver
Groot
Lady Sif
Warriors Three
Drax
Gamora
Laufey
Yondu
Nebula
Killian (just barely)
Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Rocket
Star Lord
Captain America
Black Panther
Winter Soldier
Ant Man
Spiderman
Crossbones
Falcon
Vulture
Whiplash
Iron Monger
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Blonsky (post-serum)
Street Tier (non super human, agent/soldier level)
Iron Fist
Daredevil
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Thor (depowered)
Punisher
Stick
Elektra
Ultron mk1
Maria Hill
Nick Fury
Mantis
Peggy (1940/1950s)
Blonsky (pre-serum)
Civilian Tier (non super human, golf caddy level)
Baby Groot
Coulson (movies only)
Ross
Klaw (pre-black panther)
Happy
Just small stuff I'd tweak but obviously this is fairly subjective.
Quicksilver should probably be top tier (his death was a sham) and scarlet witch powerhouse tier (so far). I dont think i'd put Kurse so high. And Spider-Man is liable to increase to top tier over time as well. I'd probably drop Iron Fist to street tier until he impresses me in battle.
Otherwise i'm on your side with everything. The only other category that you could do is civilian tier. Coulson, Happy, Ross, etc. (granted, this would mostly be a benchmark, rather than an actual ranking).
Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Surtur
Odin(?)
Doctor Strange (with time gem..reality hack)
Ego (seems bigger than those others in power level)
Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Odin(?)
Eson The Searcher
Ronan (w/power gem)
Malekith (With reality gem. Thor wasn't going to beat him in combat)
Thanos (I'm guessing will fall here)
Hela
Ultron Prime (his vibranium body made this an implication)
Kaecilius (with dark dimension powers)
Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Thor
Heimdall (if not higher)
Doctor Strange
Ancient One
Vision
Kurse
Hulk (stamina and strength make up for lack in versatility)
Hulkbuster Iron Man
Scarlet Witch (so far)
Ultron
Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Ronan
Loki (w/ or w/out scepter)
Iron Man
Malekith
Quicksilver
Lady Sif
Warriors Three
Laufey
The Destroyer
Killian (just barely)
Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Spiderman
Captain America
Black Panther
Winter Soldier
Ant Man
Crossbones
Falcon
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Whiplash
Iron Monger
Vulture
Street Tier (non super human, agent/soldier level)
Iron Fist
Daredevil
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Maria Hill
Nick Fury
Peggy (1940/1950s)
Punisher
Stick
Elektra
Civilian Tier (non super human, golf caddy level)
Thor (depowered)
Happy
Coulson (movies only)
Ross
Klaw (pre-black panther)
Just small stuff I'd tweak but obviously this is fairly subjective.
Quicksilver should probably be top tier (his death was a sham) and scarlet witch powerhouse tier (so far). I dont think i'd put Kurse so high. And Spider-Man is liable to increase to top tier over time as well. I'd probably drop Iron Fist to street tier until he impresses me in battle.
Otherwise i'm on your side with everything. The only other category that you could do is civilian tier. Coulson, Happy, Ross, etc. (granted, this would mostly be a benchmark, rather than an actual ranking).
Wonder where you would put the Guardians, especially since Drax, Gamora and Nebula got one hell of an upgrade in terms of powers in the second movie when compared to the first.
I am happy to announce that BigThor will be joining Jaqua99 and myself as a partner and collaborater for the Vs. matches and the power tier list. So, welcome BigThor me and jaqua99 are glad to have you on board.
Just small stuff I'd tweak but obviously this is fairly subjective.
Quicksilver should probably be top tier (his death was a sham) and scarlet witch powerhouse tier (so far). I dont think i'd put Kurse so high. And Spider-Man is liable to increase to top tier over time as well. I'd probably drop Iron Fist to street tier until he impresses me in battle.
Otherwise i'm on your side with everything. The only other category that you could do is civilian tier. Coulson, Happy, Ross, etc. (granted, this would mostly be a benchmark, rather than an actual ranking).
All right BigThor you win. I'm putting him at street/agent level. HOWEVER would he beat Hawkeye/Black Widow? mmmm not sure about that. I have to assume Hawkeye would be given his bow in any category he's put into. And he has his skillset which in general includes intentionally staying far away and out of sight. I think he takes this.
So 'Donald Blake' vs Black Widow? Now that's a fight. Widow has the luxury of plot convenience. She battles alongside Cap, Winter Soldier and T'Challa across several movies. Granted, not quite enough to move her up a tier, but certainly makes her a tough competitor within the Agent/Street-level tier. I call it a draw! :P
All right BigThor you win. I'm putting him at street/agent level. HOWEVER would he beat Hawkeye/Black Widow? mmmm not sure about that. I have to assume Hawkeye would be given his bow in any category he's put into. And he has his skillset which in general includes intentionally staying far away and out of sight. I think he takes this.
So 'Donald Blake' vs Black Widow? Now that's a fight. Widow has the luxury of plot convenience. She battles alongside Cap, Winter Soldier and T'Challa across several movies. Granted, not quite enough to move her up a tier, but certainly makes her a tough competitor within the Agent/Street-level tier. I call it a draw! :P
Yeah Hawkeye would definately beat both at distance, but in close combat he would get trounced.
Donald Blake's strength is what pushes him over the edge against Black Widow. If you take two people of fairly equal skill and one has a huge strength advantage they'll likely win.
For example you can't really put Thor/Hulk above each other, they are pretty much tied. In Ragnarok ...
Thor pretty much beats Hulk in powered up lightning form and gets nerfed once he does by the Grandmaster. But it is also kind of implied that just before Thor gets nerfed, Hulk starts to get really pissed as he hasn't been challenged like this for a long time and could raise his power level as well. It could go either way and they end it in such a way, that it is undecided.
For example you can't really put Thor/Hulk above each other, they are pretty much tied. In Ragnarok ...
Thor pretty much beats Hulk in powered up lightning form and gets nerfed once he does by the Grandmaster. But it is also kind of implied that just before Thor gets nerfed, Hulk starts to get really pissed as he hasn't been challenged like this for a long time and could raise his power level as well. It could go either way and they end it in such a way, that it is undecided.
-Surtur (Eternal Flame form)
-Odin (by virtue of keeping Hela at bay,
but since he is her father, might be a special thing
, whether Odin is stronger than Surtur in his ultimate form is hard to say, as they don't really say how he has stopped him before.)
-Hela (mostly by being invulnerable)
-Thor/Hulk
-Surtur (normal form)
-Valkyrie (mostly superhuman strength)
-Dr. Strange (may be even stronger, but hard to compare with Valkyrie and the rest because he doesn't fight, all he does is teleport people around which gives him an edge on Loki at least, who can sneak around but can't actually manipulate time and space)
-Heimdall (fights a bunch of evil soldiers but is hard to compare with Valkyrie in terms of actual physical strength and other powers. Valkyrie is shown doing more stuff, so I'm putting her higher because of that)
-Loki
-Skurge/Korg/Miek (they don't seem to have powers, they use weapons)
-Topaz (mostly relies on weapons and spaceships)
-Grandmaster (kinda useless, doesn't show any power, is very old though...)
I don't have a whole lot of knowledge of the comic book characters but going by the movies, I would say Strange is human level powerhouse but I don't think I would put him above Hulk and Thor. And doesn't he need props to help him use his powers? Hulk and Thor's powers are inherently within them. Like Cap.
I'd put Dormammu top. Not sure where Thanos would be since we haven't seen him much. I'd probably put Ego above Hela but not sure about her since I haven't seen her in action yet. Same with Sukur (sp).
In terms of heroes, I'd say:
Hulk
Thor
Scarlet Witch
Strange
Cap
Spider Man
Black Panther
Iron Man
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Falcon
War Machine
Ant Man
Those are grouped in power tiers but within the tiers, no specific order.
I'd say more like this (perhaps we could create tier labels)
Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Surtur
Odin
Doctor Strange (with time gem..reality hack)
Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Ego
Odin(?)
Eson The Searcher
Ronan (w/power gem)
Thanos (I'm guessing will fall here)
Hela
Kurse (Another brick, but his strength and durability and utter domination places him above the power house tier)
Ultron Prime (his vibranium body made this an implication)
Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Thor
Doctor Strange
Malekith (With reality gem)
Ancient One
Vision
Hulk (stamina and strength make up for lack in versatility)
Hulkbuster Iron man
Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Ronan
Loki (w/ or w/out scepter)
Iron Man
Scarlet Witch (tough to place)
Quake
Malekith
Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Spiderman
Captain America
Black Panther
Winter Soldier
Ant Man
Crossbones
Falcon
Quicksilver
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil
Black Widow
Hawkeye
This is the format BigThor, Surfer and I are gonna be sticking to. So if you'd like to give a vote in the battle forum, and place a tier in, that would be fun
Haha, yeah good point. But before he went big, he was fighting on Natasha's level, so I wasn't too sure where to put him.
Also, I do stand by placing Eson the Searcher in the Transcendent tier. Just because he wasn't necessarily a god like Dormammu. While Eson was huge, and destroyed a planet, he had the power gem, and seemed like a local giant entity with immense cosmic power, opposed to a sort of cosmic god who could destroy/consume a planet by being present more or less.
Haha, yeah good point. But before he went big, he was fighting on Natasha's level, so I wasn't too sure where to put him.
Also, I do stand by placing Eson the Searcher in the Transcendent tier. Just because he wasn't necessarily a god like Dormammu. While Eson was huge, and destroyed a planet, he had the power gem, and seemed like a local giant entity with immense cosmic power, opposed to a sort of cosmic god who could destroy/consume a planet by being present more or less.
Ant Man was fighting evenly with Natasha BEFORE activating the powers of his Ant Man suit. He should definitely be in the "Top Tier" group with Iron Man and Ronan etc.
Eson did use the power gem while destroying that planet, so I see what you're saying.
I think this is a great idea and Surfer, jacqua and BigThor are the right men for the job.
Good luck with this project and I hope by the end of it we have a comprehensive breakdown of rankings for MCU character powers which will be very informative for all of us and especially for people who are new to the MCU, CBMs and comics. Looking forward to seeing it develop.
I think this is a great idea and Surfer, jacqua and BigThor are the right men for the job.
Good luck with this project and I hope by the end of it we have a comprehensive breakdown of rankings for MCU character powers which will be very informative for all of us and especially for people who are new to the MCU, CBMs and comics. Looking forward to seeing it develop.
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