MCU Power Tiers

[Surfer]

The problem is she needs skin contact (unlike Scarlet Witch when she used to have her mind powers). Which means she has to get close enough to the enemy to touch them. That automatically makes her mind control powers much less powerful. Because the chances of her not getting crushed before that happens, are slim to none. Unless it's a sneak attack ala IW but for that she needs a team up.

But I'm kind of baffled by so many GOTG characters outranking Gamora and Nebula. Star-Lord and Yondu too? What has Yondu done in terms of feats that I missed?

Yondu's arrow has taken out a massive amount of people in a matter of seconds on 2 occassions. His arrows fly through the targets and can be controlled to make sharp turns and then be directed at new targets, continuing the cycle until you have a massive amount of characters quickly killed on screen. So, I think based on his attack feats with his arrow that has range he is in the proper tier. However, during battles characters have the opportunity to win or lose their way up or down the tier list. This includes now even being able to move into another tier through battles. However, we also during battle ask that people voice their opinion about a characters tier placement and if enough fans agree that a character belongs in a different tier then they would be moved to that tier at the end of the battle. Such was the case with Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur. So, it's important to know through battles the characters will eventually find their correct Final placement (at least as of the most recent itteration of the character when the battle took place). However, until they reach their Final Placement in Blue, the Green characters are Moving up and the Orange chararacters are Moving down to head towards that Final placement. Red characters have not been used yet and have no placement yet through battles, the only placement they hold is our opinion on the power tier we feel the characters belong in at the time we added them. So, with this information you should be able to piece together that Gamora fought Captain America and lost due to the votes Fans cast during their battle together. This resulted in Gamora turning Blue at the time as a result of her reaching the floor of the tier. Note at the time her battle took place we did not allow battling into other tiers. So again she reached the floor of the tier and in doing so reached what we consider to be a final placement that is relative to the other characters in Blue. Then later a battle occured between Starlord and Captain America and Starlord lost, so he turned orange since he lost and is battling down the tier from that location. So, his position reflects a loss to Captain America and not that he is above Gamora, as that has yet to be established. So, if Starlord fights Gamora next for example, and he wins then it would be Starlord in Blue above Gamora in Blue, but if he lost then it would be Gamora in Blue above Starlord in Blue. Again though if we have reason to believe the character is in the wrong tier we could even continue by fighting the character from the bottom of the tier above with the character at the top of the tier below. This also works for characters that are moving up tiers, in some cases because they might have a newer showing with feats and abilities. For example Thor who is currently at the top of the Power House Tier can fight Ultron Prime at the bottom of the Transcendant Tier. Thor's placement seemed correct to fans after Ragnarock, but then he showed up in Infinity War with a whole new set of Feats many now feel he belongs in the Transcendant Tier. So, This battle can now take place to re-establish a new Final placement based on the newest itteration of the character. As a result even characters with a Final placement status are still in flux. Therefore, the only characters that can really truly be considered to have reached a final placement are those characters that are never to appear in the Marvel Cinematic Universe again. Also, this is a very long process. As I think BigThor mentioned this has been going on for several Months and there are still many characters that are on their way to placement or have not even fought their first battle yet. So, the list is definitely not accurate at this point, but hopefully this explains the process involved and how we are aiming at one day far in the future ending up with a tier list that feels as comprehensive and correct as a tier list can be for fictional characters.

I hope this helps you.

Thanks!

Surfer

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Just a suggestion guys, but a Ego vs Surtur battle would be damn interesting.

 

[BigThor]

Just a suggestion guys, but a Ego vs Surtur battle would be damn interesting.

Heck yeah bro that should be the next one.

 

[Surfer]

Even though the results of the Thor vs. Ultron Prime battle is not done until tomorrow, it seems overwhelmingly decisive in favor of Thor. Therefore I have updated the list with Thor moving into the Transcendant Tier today. BigThor or jaqua99 should have a new battle beginning again soon, so stay tuned.

Thanks!

Surfer

 

[Thör-El]

Even though the results of the Thor vs. Ultron Prime battle is not done until tomorrow, it seems overwhelmingly decisive in favor of Thor. Therefore I have updated the list with Thor moving into the Transcendant Tier today. BigThor or jaqua99 should have a new battle beginning again soon, so stay tuned.

Thanks!

Surfer

Should Ultron Prime move down to powerhouse as well?

 

[Surfer]

Should Ultron Prime move down to powerhouse as well?

I considered moving Ultron Prime down to Powerhouse tier, but the reason I didn't is because Ultron Prime established himself in the Transcendant Tier initially, and he has not had any updated showings of feats and abilities that should effect his initial placement. Where as Thor was initially placed, but then had showings in Ragnarok and Infinity War that would effect his placement due to new feats and abilities being displayed. So, as a result Thor is battling up the tier trying to gain a higher placement based on these new feats, where as Ultron Prime is already established and his only movement is in relationship to Thor. In other words Thor being shown as more Powerful does not make Ultron Prime less powerful then what he was initially established to be.

At least thats how I see it. Hope that makes sense.

Thanks!

Surfer

 

[Surfer]

The power tiers list has been updated as of the most recent battle between Black Widow and Okoye, and a new battle has begun between War Machine and Heimdall. Be sure to join in on the fun.

Thanks!

Surfer

 

[BigThor]

It's been confirmed that Thanos wasn't using the Power Stone in his fight with Hulk.

https://comicbook-com.cdn.ampprojec...r-joe-russo-thanos-didnt-need-stones-defeat-/

 

[Surfer]

The list is now updated as of the most recent battle between Dormammu and Thanos w/ a filled Infinity Gauntlet.

Surfer

 

[Batmannerism]

The list is now updated as of the most recent battle between Dormammu and Thanos w/ a filled Infinity Gauntlet.

Surfer

I was looking at the order in Black Widow v Elektra thread.

I'm sure BigThor will chuckle when I say this, but shouldn't Thor, with Stormbreaker, be a lot higher up ? I mean with that weapon he might have been able to beat Hela - it flew through a beam from the full Infinity Gauntlet and nearly killed Thanos. I doubt Ultron Prime could take a direct hit from it, or could any other being in MCU ( maybe Dormammu if it was in the Dark Dimension? Or Surtur Prime ).

After Infinity War Thor is easily the most powerful superhero in the MCU. One on One I don't think any other character could defeat him - Strange using the time stone might trap or stalemate him, but otherwise I don't see it.

I certainly can't see Kurse, fenris or Ronan even with the power stone, standing up to him.

Stormbreaker Thor should be in the transcendant tier IMO.

 

[Surfer]

I was looking at the order in Black Widow v Elektra thread.

I'm sure BigThor will chuckle when I say this, but shouldn't Thor, with Stormbreaker, be a lot higher up ? I mean with that weapon he might have been able to beat Hela - it flew through a beam from the full Infinity Gauntlet and nearly killed Thanos. I doubt Ultron Prime could take a direct hit from it, or could any other being in MCU ( maybe Dormammu if it was in the Dark Dimension? Or Surtur Prime ).

After Infinity War Thor is easily the most powerful superhero in the MCU. One on One I don't think any other character could defeat him - Strange using the time stone might trap or stalemate him, but otherwise I don't see it.

I certainly can't see Kurse, fenris or Ronan even with the power stone, standing up to him.

Stormbreaker Thor should be in the transcendant tier IMO.

I don't disagree with you, but Thor is not locked into his current placement. His current placement resulted in initial placement before Thor Ragnarok that placed him at the top of the Power House Tier. Then after Ragnarok he battled into the next tier and is now awaiting further battles because he is in green to continue moving up the list.

I hope that helps.

Thanks!

Bryan

 

[BigThor]

I was looking at the order in Black Widow v Elektra thread.

I'm sure BigThor will chuckle when I say this, but shouldn't Thor, with Stormbreaker, be a lot higher up ? I mean with that weapon he might have been able to beat Hela - it flew through a beam from the full Infinity Gauntlet and nearly killed Thanos. I doubt Ultron Prime could take a direct hit from it, or could any other being in MCU ( maybe Dormammu if it was in the Dark Dimension? Or Surtur Prime ).

After Infinity War Thor is easily the most powerful superhero in the MCU. One on One I don't think any other character could defeat him - Strange using the time stone might trap or stalemate him, but otherwise I don't see it.

I certainly can't see Kurse, fenris or Ronan even with the power stone, standing up to him.

Stormbreaker Thor should be in the transcendant tier IMO.

The characters have to battle their way into their placement, imo Thor is definitely at the very top of the Transcendent tier so we'll see after a few more battles.

I try not to overuse Thor in my battles because I already get a lot of flack for my username and almost anytime I even say Thor's name I get hassled.

 

[Batmannerism]

The characters have to battle their way into their placement, imo Thor is definitely at the very top of the Transcendient tier so we'll see after a few more battles.

I try not to overuse Thor in my battles because I already get a lot of flack for my username and almost anytime I even say Thor's name I get hassled.

Having said what I said earlier,

The characters have to battle their way into their placement, imo Thor is definitely at the very top of the Transcendient tier so we'll see after a few more battles.

I try not to overuse Thor in my battles because I already get a lot of flack for my username and almost anytime I even say Thor's name I get hassled.

I don't know if I'd agree that Thor is top of that tier - but he's certainly transcendent IMO and a contender for a top 3 spot. Could he defeat Ego or Dormammu ? Maybe.

 

[BigThor]

Having said what I said earlier,


I don't know if I'd agree that Thor is top of that tier - but he's certainly transcendent IMO and a contender for a top 3 spot. Could he defeat Ego or Dormammu ? Maybe.

You're confusing Transcendent tier with Cosmic Tier, Ego & Dormmamu are in Cosmic tier.

Thor is already in the Transcendent tier which is Ultron Prime, Kurse, Fenris, Hela, and Thanos (w/Power Stone)

 

[Batmannerism]

You're confusing Transcendent tier with Cosmic Tier, Ego & Dormmamu are in Cosmic tier.

Thor is already in the Transcendent tier which is Ultron Prime, Kurse, Fenris, Hela, and Thanos (w/Power Stone)

You're confusing Transcendent tier with Cosmic Tier, Ego & Dormmamu are in Cosmic tier.

Thor is already in the Transcendent tier which is Ultron Prime, Kurse, Fenris, Hela, and Thanos (w/Power Stone)

Okay, my mistake. Thor has a good shot at the cosmic tier then.

 

[All-Father]

Okay, my mistake. Thor has a good shot at the cosmic tier then.

I definitely agree with you.

 

[All-Father]

Depending on how He does in Avengers 4, I see him climbing up to the top of the transcendent tier very fast.

 

[BigThor]

Thor is now ahead of Hela in the Transcendent tier. *evil grin*

Oh and Thanos in the Transcendent tier is now Thanos (No Stones) instead of Thanos (w/ Power Stone). The Russos confirmed that he didn't use the Power Stone while fighting Hulk.

 

[jaqua99]

Our tier list and battle threads are the only thing keeping me excited about the MCU. Unfortunately, my love for it has peaked.

But our project keeps me invested. So, thanks to everyone who participates!

 

[Batmannerism]

Our tier list and battle threads are the only thing keeping me excited about the MCU. Unfortunately, my love for it has peaked.

But our project keeps me invested. So, thanks to everyone who participates!

Dude ! I am saddened to hear that your enthusiasm for the MCU has plateaued. I am a DC fan but I am constantly amazed at how enjoyable MCU films are - especially phase 2 and 3.

Might I suggest rewatching some of the absolute best phase 1, 2 and early phase 3 films ?

Winter Solider has been one I've rewatched a bunch of times recently - the action/fight sequences alone are worth it. Dr Strange is a joy, especially the final showdown, and Civil War and GOTG vol 1 are pure magic. While IW is great I feel like, TWS, CW and GOTG are the pinnacle so far. GOTG vol 1 always lifts my mood.

On the other hand you could watch Batman V Superman and Suicide Squad ( at least until you can't stand them anymore) and that will remind you how great the MCU is.

The battle threads are great fun you and BigThor are doing a great job, hang in there.

 

[BigThor]

Hela beat Thanos (No Stones) this week, so the Transcendent tier list goes as follows.....

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Thor
Hela
Thanos (No Stones)
Ronan with the Power Stone
Kurse
Fenris
Ultron Prime (Vibranium)

 

[jaqua99]

Hela beat Thanos (No Stones) this week, so the Transcendent tier list goes as follows.....

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Thor
Hela
Thanos (No Stones)
Ronan with the Power Stone
Kurse
Fenris
Ultron Prime (Vibranium)

Had a thought. Given we saw what each stone could do, would we want to battle Thanos with each of the stones he's used individually? Thanos w/power stone. Thanos 2 w/reality stone, etc. Thanos did use the powerstone through out the movie, so I dont think we need to necessarily remove that from the list. The battle with it vs hela took the powerstone feats into consideration

 

[BigThor]

Had a thought. Given we saw what each stone could do, would we want to battle Thanos with each of the stones he's used individually? Thanos w/power stone. Thanos 2 w/reality stone, etc. Thanos did use the powerstone through out the movie, so I dont think we need to necessarily remove that from the list. The battle with it vs hela took the powerstone feats into consideration

I don't know it's a slippery slope, having 7 different Thanos is pretty absurd. Also, while Thanos did use the Power Stone several times throughout the film he never really used "just" the Power Stone in combat.

During combat he only used it while also wielding and using multiple other stones.

 

[jaqua99]

Dude ! I am saddened to hear that your enthusiasm for the MCU has plateaued. I am a DC fan but I am constantly amazed at how enjoyable MCU films are - especially phase 2 and 3.

Might I suggest rewatching some of the absolute best phase 1, 2 and early phase 3 films ?

Winter Solider has been one I've rewatched a bunch of times recently - the action/fight sequences alone are worth it. Dr Strange is a joy, especially the final showdown, and Civil War and GOTG vol 1 are pure magic. While IW is great I feel like, TWS, CW and GOTG are the pinnacle so far. GOTG vol 1 always lifts my mood.

On the other hand you could watch Batman V Superman and Suicide Squad ( at least until you can't stand them anymore) and that will remind you how great the MCU is.

The battle threads are great fun you and BigThor are doing a great job, hang in there.

I still watch them happily!

I just mean, I'm not necessarily rushing to see them the first day they come out anymore. IW was the first MCU movie since dr strange and spiderman I saw opening weekend.

Still havent seen Antman and the Wasp. (Granted I was in the hospital then).

But I used to live in the speculation threads! I still love the movies, I just dont get as arroused by them as I used to anymore.

 

[jaqua99]

New battle is up everyone.

Iron man vs Jotenheim beast, for a spot in the powerhouse tier. MCU Fight: Iron man (Mark L) vs Jotenheim Beast