MCU vs thread....controversy and chaos

[Stormborn]

In a straight fight, Hulk will always beat Spider-Man, no question. Spider-Man isn't strong or durable enough to have a chance of winning and in the MCU he isn't even that much faster than Hulk so he couldn't dodge attacks forever.

In character, Spider-Man would know he has no chance if he came across a rampaging Hulk. At best, he could maybe distract Hulk for a few minutes to buy time for civilians to get away or for a more powerful Avenger to show up.

 

[metaphysician]

If Peter doesn't want to be hit, he won't be hit, but this doesn't actually matter, since he can't do a lick of damage to the Hulk. The most he can do is flee, which he certainly could do! . . . but if he stays and fights, its just a matter of time before he misses a dodge. The Iron Spider armor certainly will keep him alive through that, but only so many times. . . and all the dodging in the world doesn't matter if you can't harm your foe.

 

[Docker2.0]

Hulk wins 5-0. I figured I'd give it a shot. Next up:

Guardians of the Galaxy

Vs the New Avengers

Minus Vision and Scarlett Witch though.

 

[Luigi]

So it's Cap, Nat, Rhodey and Sam?

Have to go with the Guardians. Not only is there the numerical advantage but there's also the strength difference and more advanced weaponry.

 

[metaphysician]

OTOH, Steve is a better fighter than anyone the Guardians have.

I'd call it a coin flip. There are so many variations on how it could turn out, the slightest random chance in the initial melee can result in completely different results.

 

[Docker2.0]

So it's Cap, Nat, Rhodey and Sam?

Have to go with the Guardians. Not only is there the numerical advantage but there's also the strength difference and more advanced weaponry.

Yes sir.

 

[Stormborn]

Cap and Gamora would probably keep each other occupied. They're both highly skilled, comparably superhuman and Gamora's sword is a good counter to Cap's shield.

War Machine is the most powerful Avenger here but he'd have to take on Drax and Groot at once and I'm not sure he could put them down quickly.

That leaves Falcon and Widow vs Quill and Rocket. Since Quill and Rocket can both fly and have far better weapons they'd win and then go help the other Guardians overwhelm Cap and War Machine.

 

[Bayne]

I agree, the numbers and weapons advantage of the guardians is too much. Guardians win.

 

[Batmannerism]

In a straight fight, Hulk will always beat Spider-Man, no question. Spider-Man isn't strong or durable enough to have a chance of winning and in the MCU he isn't even that much faster than Hulk so he couldn't dodge attacks forever.

In character, Spider-Man would know he has no chance if he came across a rampaging Hulk. At best, he could maybe distract Hulk for a few minutes to buy time for civilians to get away or for a more powerful Avenger to show up.

Agreed. MCU Spidey would get squished by the Hulk.

 

[Batmannerism]

Cap and Gamora would probably keep each other occupied. They're both highly skilled, comparably superhuman and Gamora's sword is a good counter to Cap's shield.

War Machine is the most powerful Avenger here but he'd have to take on Drax and Groot at once and I'm not sure he could put them down quickly.

That leaves Falcon and Widow vs Quill and Rocket. Since Quill and Rocket can both fly and have far better weapons they'd win and then go help the other Guardians overwhelm Cap and War Machine.

Or..... War Machine uses his napalm bombs, good bye Groot.

Nat kills Rocket with a well placed gunshot. Falcon engages Quill but appears more skilled in aerial combat and has a small arsenal of his own gadgets. Quill loses.

Cap fights Gamora and subdues her. Cap was able to subdue the stronger and faster Spider Man with relative ease. Quill took out Gamora twice via trickery. Can't Cap losing to Gamora.

However that leaves Drax. Interestingly Drax doesn't appear to be durable against edged weapons. Cap's shield can cut through steel cables and Iron Man's armour so that may hurt Drax. Otherwise Widow picks up Gamora's sword and stabs him with it.

War Machine may also be able to subdue Drax with repulsors and rockets.

Old/New Avengers for the win.

 

[Docker2.0]

GotG win 4-2. Next up:
Captain Marvel

Vs. Stormbreaker Thor(Infinity War)

 

[Luigi]

Oh boy, the fight that originally broke the contests. Hopefully it's more civil this time.

Close one but I can see Thor edging out a win. IW Thor was peak MCU Thor and not to mention that Endgame showed that Carol can get taken out temporarily.

 

[Stormborn]

I'd guess Infinity War Thor narrowly wins.

They're both ridiculously strong and durable, can fly straight through space ships, have extremely powerful energy attacks etc.

Carol has a flight speed advantage and probably a narrow strength advantage but Thor seems more skilled and should be able to hurt her with Stormbreaker.

 

[Fosterson]

Is there any reason why Carol can't just grab Stormbreaker like Thanos did?

 

[Stormborn]

Is there any reason why Carol can't just grab Stormbreaker like Thanos did?

No reason why she definitely couldn't but I'd guess it'd be harder to do since she's less skilled than Thanos and this Thor isn't a fat alcoholic.

Does Carol have any feats using weapons?

 

[metaphysician]

Thor vs Captain Marvel:

Thor takes it. To put it bluntly, based on the actual stuff shown on screen, he's just plain more powerful. Carol will put up a strong fight, but it will be a losing one. She just doesn't have a useful advantage to leverage, aside from "fly away". Its basically "Thor vs Someone Roughly A Peer To Him, Who Is Less Skilled and Lacks A Powerful Weapon".

 

[Batmannerism]

GotG win 4-2. Next up:
Captain Marvel

Vs. Stormbreaker Thor(Infinity War)

Before Endgame I would have said Thor.
However Carol seemed to be able to overpower Thanos - something Thor couldn't do, as the start of Infinity War strongly suggests.

While Thor is almost certainly more skillful, Carol might actually be stronger and more durable in a straight up fistfight - in those circumstances she might be able to beat Thor down ( eg Kurse overcame Thor with sheer power and brutality).

The big question for me is how Carol would stand up to Stormbreaker's axe blade ? If it would nearly kill Thanos I would think it would seriously injure her. Of course she might be able to catch Stormbreaker as Thanos did.

I doubt his lightning would have a decisive effect as it didn't do much more than slow Thanos down.

I think the most likely outcome is a draw.

 

[Docker2.0]

Ok so Thor wins 3-1-1. Next up:
Black Panther

Vs the Amazing Spiderman

Who we got?

 

[metaphysician]

On the matter of Endgame, note that Carol "overpowered" Thanos. . . briefly, at the *end* of the fight. After he had fought quite a few rounds with, amongst other people, Wanda and. . . Thor. He was not anything close to fresh. *cough*

Anyway.

Black Panther vs Spider-man:

Assuming that Peter doesn't have the Iron Spider armor? I give it to T'Challa. Civil War aptly demonstrated that Captain America is in Spider-man's weight class, and Black Panther is definitely in the same tier. Peter is faster, but not by an insurmountable lead, and T'Challa is certainly more skilled. At which point, Peter has a problem. He can try to web T'Challa, but between strength and claws, he isn't staying webbed for long. He can punch T'Challa, but that is actively counterproductive: BP will absorb the energy and use it to area effect blast back. The only thing Peter can really do is try to grapple T'Challa and leverage his superior strength, but that just means he's within claw range of an opponent who is comparably buff and more skilled.

Its just not a good fight for Peter.

 

[Docker2.0]

On the matter of Endgame, note that Carol "overpowered" Thanos. . . briefly, at the *end* of the fight. After he had fought quite a few rounds with, amongst other people, Wanda and. . . Thor. He was not anything close to fresh. *cough*

Anyway.

Black Panther vs Spider-man:

Assuming that Peter doesn't have the Iron Spider armor? I give it to T'Challa. Civil War aptly demonstrated that Captain America is in Spider-man's weight class, and Black Panther is definitely in the same tier. Peter is faster, but not by an insurmountable lead, and T'Challa is certainly more skilled. At which point, Peter has a problem. He can try to web T'Challa, but between strength and claws, he isn't staying webbed for long. He can punch T'Challa, but that is actively counterproductive: BP will absorb the energy and use it to area effect blast back. The only thing Peter can really do is try to grapple T'Challa and leverage his superior strength, but that just means he's within claw range of an opponent who is comparably buff and more skilled.

Its just not a good fight for Peter.

No Peter does not have the Spider Armour. Whatever is in the pic or gif, that's what we roll with unless specified. Tried to make it as even as possible.

 

[Stormborn]

Black Panther would beat MCU Spidey fairly easily. He's comparably fast and agile, far more skilled, strong enough to hurt Peter and has a vibranium suit that prevents Peter from hurting him. Peter's only chance is to web him up but I can't see him pulling it off.

On the other hand, I do think the Maguire and Garfield versions of Spider-Man could probably beat T'Challa.

No Peter does not have the Spider Armour. Whatever is in the pic or gif, that's what we roll with unless specified. Tried to make it as even as possible.

I don't think it'd make much of a difference.

 

[Docker2.0]

Black Panther would beat MCU Spidey fairly easily. He's comparably fast and agile, far more skilled, strong enough to hurt Peter and has a vibranium suit that prevents Peter from hurting him. Peter's only chance is to web him up but I can't see him pulling it off.

On the other hand, I do think the Maguire and Garfield versions of Spider-Man could probably beat T'Challa.



I don't think it'd make much of a difference.

I think Garfield's Spiderman could but I don't think Maguire's Spidey is as powerful as people make him out to be. But since we are on that...................you guys think I can include Venom and Deadpool(yet again)in this? It's already confirmed that Spidey and Venom will crossover and Deadpool will as well.........Ryan Reynold's Deadpool. So what do you guys think?

 

[Luigi]

T'Challa

Peter doesn't have the necessary amount of training to beat someone as skilled as T'Challa.

And nay to Venom being in here.

 

[Docker2.0]

T'Challa

Peter doesn't have the necessary amount of training to beat someone as skilled as T'Challa.

And nay to Venom being in here.

Everything with you is always no.

 

[Batmannerism]

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Ok so Thor wins 3-1-1. Next up:
Black Panther

Vs the Amazing Spiderman

Who we got?

Hmmmm..... Maguire or Garfield would be too fast and strong for TChalla - although with his vibranium suit I'm not sure even they could actually harm him. While any of the Spideys could web him up, T'challa 's claws are likely easily capable of cutting through the webbing.

Skill wise T'challa has a big edge. If the fight happened at close quarters T'challa would eventually slice Spidey to ribbons- with space to move Spidey would be able to evade a lot of T'challa's attacks.

I think eventually T'challa would take this one.