MCU vs thread....controversy and chaos

[Shuri]

Thor. Quicksilver can't hurt him no matter how fast he is.

 

[Batmannerism]

I know people hate MCU Pietro because of the bad Russian accent, but I do feel like he's being sold a little short here. He was fast enough to catch bullets in mid-air, disassemble the gun that fired them, and lay them out neatly on a table before Klaue could even react. Thor was literally a statue in Pietro-time.

Also, Thor telegraphs his lightning attacks really badly, so I think Pietro should easily be able to move out of the way. And it's not really in-character for Thor to summon a tornado. In fact, I'm fairly sure it's been retconned so that its no longer one of Thor's abilities anymore.

I see this as either a stalemate, or a victory for Pietro in the long-run. His punches can stagger Thor and I doubt he'll fall for the Mjolnir trick twice. And there's nothing stopping him from running off and bringing back heavy-duty weaponry capable of killing Thor.

Thor summoned a tornado in Thor (2011) to take out the destroyer - when did that get retconned ?

Quicksilver wasn't fast enough to move Hawkeye out of the path of bullets and evade them himself ( which Fox Quicksilver could have done and had time to make himself a sandwich).

While I doubt Thor could lay a hand on him, some of his lightning strikes have an area effect, like an explosion, which would be tough to avoid.

Lightning flashes travel about 1/3 the speed of light ( looked it up) and Thor's lightning seems a bit slower than that, but I doubt Pietro could evade it for long.

In the meantime what's he going to do to Thor - who can fly above the battlefield.

Flash can take on Superman and be a challenge because he has a bunch of crazy powers associated with the mythical speed force - but Thor vs Quicksilver is a very different story.

 

[InCali]

Thor. I'm back. I decided I missed Doc after all.

 

[Docker2.0]

Thor. I'm back. I decided I missed Doc after all.

 

[Docker2.0]

That was a quick 48 hours!! Well, Thor wins. Next up:

Groot

vs Venom

Who you got peeps?

Welcome back Cali!

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Regenerating tree vs regenerating living ooze should last long if you think of it like this, but I believe Venom can move fast enough to avoid strikes from Groot and win this fight.

VENOM

 

[Batmannerism]

That was a quick 48 hours!! Well, Thor wins. Next up:

Groot

vs Venom

Who you got peeps?

Welcome back Cali!

Very difficult - Venom wouldn't really be harmed by crushing or piercing attacks by Groot and Groot would be highly resistant to any stabbing or clawing attacks by Venom - possibly he could get a tendril up Eddie's nose and into his brain.

Not sure that Groot could destroy the Ooze symbiote but I think he could probably kill Eddie, so I'll count that as a win.

I vote Groot.

 

[Luigi]

Venom

Groot doesn't really have any way of hurting Eddie and the symbiote. Still not entirely convinced that it's connected to the MCU.

 

[Docker2.0]

Venom

Groot doesn't really have any way of hurting Eddie and the symbiote. Still not entirely convinced that it's connected to the MCU.

Venom was a success and if Morbius does decent(I think it will make pre-Corona, like $600M WW)that pocket universe that Amy was referring to does exist in the MCU. There are even rumors of a live action Spideyverse with Holland, Maguire and Garfield. I don't like the idea but anything to keep Spidey in the MCU.

 

[Luigi]

Fair enough. Wonder which one of us is going to bite the bullet and go watch Morbius to see if it really connected to the MCU.

 

[Docker2.0]

Fair enough. Wonder which one of us is going to bite the bullet and go watch Morbius to see if it really connected to the MCU.

Well with Blade coming out in a few years, you don't think they will connect the two if Morbius is successful?

 

[Luigi]

They probably will but I can't say that I'm excited about it.

 

[Docker2.0]

They probably will but I can't say that I'm excited about it.

Man it is to please you guys!

 

[Docker2.0]

Groot wins 2-1. Next up:

Bucky

Vs Killmonger, without his suit

Who you got peeps?

 

[Batmannerism]

Bucky win 9

Groot wins 2-1. Next up:

Bucky

Vs Killmonger, without his suit

Who you got peeps?

Going by the gifs, if Bucky has his guns and Erik has knives, well....knife to a gun fight means 10/10 Bucky wins.

If its Bucky unarmed vs human Kilmonger ( as per the gif) then Bucky 10/10.

If its superhuman Kilmonger then Bucky wins at least 8/10 times if it's unarmed. The cyborg arm is a weapon in of itself capable of smashing concrete easily.

If they both have knives or edged weapons, Bucky at 7/10.

If they both have guns I still have Bucky at 7/10.

IMHO T'Challa lost the waterfall fight because he was trying to be merciful and isn't naturally a killer- Bucky is a different story, even as a normal soldier he was a sniper who took life when he had to .

So, in short, Bucky.

 

[Luigi]

Bucky

More skilled and remorseless as the Winter Soldier and not to mention his vibranium arm.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You said without armor, but not before or after chewing the heart shaped herb.

Before the Herb I'm gonna give it to Buck, but after chewing the herb that Kilmonger guy still has flexibility and a lot of fighting skill, plus trading his old knives for vibranium knives and being a bullet timer? Erik Killmonger is the winner, with simplicity.

 

[Batmannerism]

You said without armor, but not before or after chewing the heart shaped herb.

Before the Herb I'm gonna give it to Buck, but after chewing the herb that Kilmonger guy still has flexibility and a lot of fighting skill, plus trading his old knives for vibranium knives and being a bullet timer? Erik Killmonger is the winner, with simplicity.

Hope Ramadan is going well for you.

Is there any evidence to suggest Erik is a bullet timer after eating the Herb ? I don't think Black Panther is - I mean he was pretty evenly matched with Cap during their airport fight, and BP was angry and trying to get past Cap to kill Bucky.

To me the vibranium suit is the factor that tips it towards Kilmonger, but without it I can't see him beating the Winter Soldier.

Anyway, cheers !

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Hope Ramadan is going well for you.

Is there any evidence to suggest Erik is a bullet timer after eating the Herb ? I don't think Black Panther is - I mean he was pretty evenly matched with Cap during their airport fight, and BP was angry and trying to get past Cap to kill Bucky.

To me the vibranium suit is the factor that tips it towards Kilmonger, but without it I can't see him beating the Winter Soldier.

Anyway, cheers !

Ramadan is going well, AlhamduliLlah. Thank you sir.

Heart herb powered T'Challa can jump on cars and chase a car running on his claws while avoiding Klaw's vibranium projectiles while also running on 4 on walls. In the realm of superheroes anyone with such agility is a bullet timer, hence why I expect the better fighting and ruthless Killmonger to be a bullet timer

Cheers.

 

[Batmannerism]

Ramadan is going well, AlhamduliLlah. Thank you sir.

Heart herb powered T'Challa can jump on cars and chase a car running on his claws while avoiding Klaw's vibranium projectiles while also running on 4 on walls. In the realm of superheroes anyone with such agility is a bullet timer, hence why I expect the better fighting and ruthless Killmonger to be a bullet timer

Cheers.

Glad to hear Ramadan is going well . It's unfortunate that the Covid pandemic has made going places during the holy month more difficult. We're pretty much back to normal down here.

Hang on a moment about the whole speed thing- despite Tchalla's impressive agility, when he was fighting Cap and Bucky in Civil War he wasn't noticeably faster than either of them, his fight with Cap was mostly a stalemate and he did get the better of Bucky who was reluctant to fight.
If the herb gives Erik the same powers, then I don't see him having much advantage over Bucky.

It's like Bucky = Cap = Tchalla = Erik with regards to strength, toughness and speed. Skill wise it's hard to say who's the best, possibly Cap but not by much.

I can see why you'd vote Kilmonger, he is a very skillful and utterly ruthless fighter - a real shame that they killed him off after one film.

Cheers.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Glad to hear Ramadan is going well . It's unfortunate that the Covid pandemic has made going places during the holy month more difficult. We're pretty much back to normal down here.

Hang on a moment about the whole speed thing- despite Tchalla's impressive agility, when he was fighting Cap and Bucky in Civil War he wasn't noticeably faster than either of them, his fight with Cap was mostly a stalemate and he did get the better of Bucky who was reluctant to fight.
If the herb gives Erik the same powers, then I don't see him having much advantage over Bucky.

It's like Bucky = Cap = Tchalla = Erik with regards to strength, toughness and speed. Skill wise it's hard to say who's the best, possibly Cap but not by much.

I can see why you'd vote Kilmonger, he is a very skillful and utterly ruthless fighter - a real shame that they killed him off after one film.

Cheers.

Alhamdulillah things are going well where you are. I pray to Allah that the world gets better sooner.

 

[Docker2.0]

You said without armor, but not before or after chewing the heart shaped herb.

Before the Herb I'm gonna give it to Buck, but after chewing the herb that Kilmonger guy still has flexibility and a lot of fighting skill, plus trading his old knives for vibranium knives and being a bullet timer? Erik Killmonger is the winner, with simplicity.

My bad! You are right! Killmonger with the herb. And Bucky has no guns. This is straight up hand to hand combat.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm voting Killmonger, leaving us with a 2-2 tie.
Next up:
Luke Cage

Vs Iron Monger

Who you got peeps?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I guess I'll vote for Iron Monger.

 

[Docker2.0]

I guess I'll vote for Iron Monger.

Can I ask why?