MCU vs thread....controversy and chaos

[Spider-Aziz]

Can I ask why?

Ok.

Iron Man MK III armor can beat a tank, Iron Monger can smash MK III.Luke in the show is slow against a flying armor and can lose to a gunshot shell to the head.

 

[Luigi]

Hmm, bit of a tough one. Depends if Luke can withstand the Iron Monger's firepower and tear through the armor to get his hands on Obadiah. Maybe he can jump on his back like Tony did and rip the wires?

I'm going with Luke but it could go either way.

 

[Batmannerism]

Luke Cage takes this.

While Ironmonger has a lot of raw power its not very agile and has cannons rather than repulsor weapons. He's also not really a fighter, just a ruthless corporate *******.

Luke is a fighter and if he's able to close with Ironmonger he's probably strong enough to smash through the armour.

People seem to forget that when Iron Man and Iron Monger fought Tony was recovering from having his heart ripped out ,( literally) and was running the Iron Man mk 3 on about 15% power from the arc reactor he built in the cave.

As such Ironmonger smacked Tony around because Tony was already in a weakened state- at full power I have no doubt that Tony would have flown rings around him and blasted him apart piece by piece.

 

[Shuri]

Bucky win 9


Going by the gifs, if Bucky has his guns and Erik has knives, well....knife to a gun fight means 10/10 Bucky wins.

If its Bucky unarmed vs human Kilmonger ( as per the gif) then Bucky 10/10.

If its superhuman Kilmonger then Bucky wins at least 8/10 times if it's unarmed. The cyborg arm is a weapon in of itself capable of smashing concrete easily.

If they both have knives or edged weapons, Bucky at 7/10.

If they both have guns I still have Bucky at 7/10.

IMHO T'Challa lost the waterfall fight because he was trying to be merciful and isn't naturally a killer- Bucky is a different story, even as a normal soldier he was a sniper who took life when he had to .

So, in short, Bucky.

Perfectly said. My man Bucky wins this.

 

[Shuri]

You said without armor, but not before or after chewing the heart shaped herb.

Before the Herb I'm gonna give it to Buck, but after chewing the herb that Kilmonger guy still has flexibility and a lot of fighting skill, plus trading his old knives for vibranium knives and being a bullet timer? Erik Killmonger is the winner, with simplicity.

Before or after the herbs. Bucky still wins. People seem to forget he's a supersoldier with super strength and everything. He's a highly trained soldier that has been killing long before killmonger was born.

 

[Shuri]

I'm voting Killmonger, leaving us with a 2-2 tie.
Next up:
Luke Cage

Vs Iron Monger

Who you got peeps?

I refuse your tie so Bucky wins.

For this round I vote Iron monger

 

[Batmannerism]

Perfectly said. My man Bucky wins this.

 

[Docker2.0]

I refuse your tie so Bucky wins.

For this round I vote Iron monger

Can't refuse the tie now! 2-2 draw! Next up:

Luke Cage and Iron Fist

Vs Promixa Midnight and Corvus Glaive

Who you got peeps?

 

[Luigi]

Heroes for Hire

Luke provides the power and Danny brings the speed for them to bring down the Black Order duo. Danny could KO both of them with his fist.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Netflix characters are too grounded to fight against fast moving bouncy cosmic beings, and by grounded I mean they don't leap a distance or jump high, at all.

 

[Batmannerism]

Can't refuse the tie now! 2-2 draw! Next up:

Luke Cage and Iron Fist

Vs Promixa Midnight and Corvus Glaive

Who you got peeps?

This is probably harder than it looks.

Both Glaive and Midnight are super strong and skillful fighters - Glaive's weapon can almost certainly kill Luke Cage, and Proxima's spear would probably seriously injure him ( with a stab).

Is Danny's Iron Fist powerful enough to put either of them down ? Maybe, while Luke could fight them hand to hand if they hit him even once with their weapons he's in trouble, whereas Danny would probably be straight up killed by any hits.

Cap, Widow and Falcon beat them by hitting them with their own weapons and keeping them off balance - in a straight up 2 on 2 fight I'm not sure Luke and Danny would be as successful.

I'll say Luke and Danny win 6/10 but Glaive and Proxima win 4/10.

So a narrow victory to Cage and Fist.

 

[Shuri]

Luke Cage and Danny Rand. Mostly because I don't think Promixa Midnight and Corvus Glaive could hurt Cage.

 

[Batmannerism]

Luke Cage and Danny Rand. Mostly because I don't think Promixa Midnight and Corvus Glaive could hurt Cage.

What about his Glaive weapon, which skewered Vision ? - there's a big difference between resisting an impact like a punch, explosion or bullet - and resisting an edged weapon, especially one which appeared to be so powerful.

If Glaive gets a surprise attack in on either of them, that's a big problem - Luke might survive with a serious injury, but Danny wouldn't.

 

[Shuri]

What about his Glaive weapon, which skewered Vision ? - there's a big difference between resisting an impact like a punch, explosion or bullet - and resisting an edged weapon, especially one which appeared to be so powerful.

If Glaive gets a surprise attack in on either of them, that's a big problem - Luke might survive with a serious injury, but Danny wouldn't.

You're right. That could probably hurt Cage, if it could, then it's over for our heroes.

 

[Docker2.0]

Heroes for Hire win in a shocking upset 3-1. Next up:

Hawkeye

Vs Antman

Who you got peeps?

 

[Oliver Betz]

If this were a fight to the death I don’t see Hawkeye coming out on top. I see this playing out as a cat and mouse game with Clint on the defensive. While he’s the better strategist and is more skillful overall, I think Antman’s Tech powers make him too unpredictable. Miniature Scott would give Clint trouble because his shrinking technology gives him a distinct advantage in the form of versatility. It would be a bit like quicksilver overwhelming Hawkeye but instead of speed, it would be a shrinking expanding nightmare. While Hawkeye will definitely make it somewhat difficult for Giantman with his Guerilla tactics he can only as much as hurt him with explosive arrows while Hawkeye could squish him. The only chance Clint has in subduing Scott in normal or miniature size is if he manages to catch him in a trap. Antman has enough tricks on his sleeve to close the distance. In terms of likelihood I’m giving Scott an 8/10 advantage.

 

[Batmannerism]

Heroes for Hire win in a shocking upset 3-1. Next up:

Hawkeye

Vs Antman

Who you got peeps?

The gif indicates that this is a very inexperienced Ant Man. In fact that's his first go with the suit.

At that stage he's going to lose to Hawkeye about 8/10. Simply because Clint is a master assassin with ranged attacks, and Scott has no idea what he's doing.

BUT

If we take Ant Man from the end of the movie, where he's had some fight training and training with the suit then Scott wins about 8/10 times, because he could shrink, distract Clint with fire ant swarm attacks and then KO him with the kind of rapid shrink- grow-shrink attacks he used against the security goons in his first movie.

So I'm going with Ant Man on this one.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm going to throw a vote in for Hawkeye. I know it's easy to say Antman would win but if Hawkeye went to neutralize him, he could. Hawkeye rarely misses and could get Lang before he even shrinks and if he goes big, he's even a bigger target. I got Hawkeye winning this.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

It's a difficult choice, but I will side with Docks on this one and vote Hawkeye.

 

[Luigi]

Hawkeye

I'll go out on a limb and say that he can beat both inexperienced and experienced Scott. He's a master assassin with keen eyesight and has powerful tools in his arsenal to take the win.

 

[Iceman]

I'm going to throw a vote in for Hawkeye. I know it's easy to say Antman would win but if Hawkeye went to neutralize him, he could. Hawkeye rarely misses and could get Lang before he even shrinks and if he goes big, he's even a bigger target. I caught Hawkeye winning this.

Yeah, you convinced me. I might have voted Ant Man but I'll go with Hawkeye.

 

[Iceman]

This is probably harder than it looks.

Both Glaive and Midnight are super strong and skillful fighters - Glaive's weapon can almost certainly kill Luke Cage, and Proxima's spear would probably seriously injure him ( with a stab).

Is Danny's Iron Fist powerful enough to put either of them down ? Maybe, while Luke could fight them hand to hand if they hit him even once with their weapons he's in trouble, whereas Danny would probably be straight up killed by any hits.

Cap, Widow and Falcon beat them by hitting them with their own weapons and keeping them off balance - in a straight up 2 on 2 fight I'm not sure Luke and Danny would be as successful.

I'll say Luke and Danny win 6/10 but Glaive and Proxima win 4/10.

So a narrow victory to Cage and Fist.

I think that encounter with cap, Widow and Falcon is a bit misleading as it was an ambush in the middle of/straight after a fight with Scarlet Witch and Vision. Imagine the other way round with Glaive and Midnight ambushing the other 3 straight after they fought SW & Vision. Glaive could take one of them out completely with an ambush with the way he took out Vision's phasing ability.

 

[Docker2.0]

I think that encounter with cap, Widow and Falcon is a bit misleading as it was an ambush in the middle of/straight after a fight with Scarlet Witch and Vision. Imagine the other way round with Glaive and Midnight ambushing the other 3 straight after they fought SW & Vision. Glaive could take one of them out completely with an ambush with the way he took out Vision's phasing ability.

Thank you! I've been saying for a minute that they are sorely underrated. They are not street level villains even though street level heroes took them out. They stood toe to toe with Vision and Wanda and that's saying a lot.

 

[Shuri]

Heroes for Hire win in a shocking upset 3-1. Next up:

Hawkeye

Vs Antman

Who you got peeps?

Ant-man.

 

[Shuri]

Wow! People actually voted for Hawkeye. I was expecting everyone to vote for Ant-man.