Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

[psylockolussus]

Yes to a new roster. The roster of the 90s cartoon never changed so it was kinda boring in that aspect.

 

[SumT]

Iceman, Psylocke and Angel as team members, please. Oh, and Kitty too of course.

 

[psylockolussus]

That would be eXciting. I would add Colossus and Nightcrawler as well.

 

[Silvermoth]

Consider the following with Collusus. When he first arrived he was part of the Soviet era. Modern collussus would definitely have to be part of the Putin era. Obviously this would have to change things slightly about his origin in an interesting way.

I am watching the inflight attendant and Michiel Huisman would make an amazing Gambit. He has the roguish charm, is good with accents and it doesn’t hurt he has a nice fish too.

 

[psylockolussus]

The Flight Attendant of HBO MaX is an eXcellent series!

 

[SuperT]

After seeing Eternals last night, I want Chloe Zhao for X-Men. She juggled multiple characters superbly and nailed the team dynamics aspect. Beautiful film all around!

 

[Silvermoth]

The Flight Attendant of HBO MaX is an eXcellent series!

it was so good! Cuoco was really good!

After seeing Eternals last night, I want Chloe Zhao for X-Men. She juggled multiple characters superbly and nailed the team dynamics aspect. Beautiful film all around!

thank you for this, always I’ve been worried about people juggling casts with multiple leads so it’s assuring to know Chloe and marvel have had a great practice run. Can’t wait to see it!

 

[Detective Conan]

After seeing Eternals last night, I want Chloe Zhao for X-Men. She juggled multiple characters superbly and nailed the team dynamics aspect. Beautiful film all around!

Ah, given some of frequent criticisms of the film of being too many characters I don’t think too many people are going to agree with you on that, lol. I’ll see the movie soon, but from the little I’ve seen of Zhao’s work, I think she could bring a strong relatable humanity to the team.

 

[spidercide89]

According to Box Office Guru, Eternals is ahead of both Black Widow and Shang-Chi so far in (very) early international box office grosses. The film is still tracking for a $70M opening weekend in North America alone which would be excellent for the pandemic era. Unfortunately though the CinemaScore grade is only a B which is on the low end for a Marvel movie...

I saw it last night and loved it. I was initially worried about the tone of the early reviews but I thought Chloé Zhao knocked it out of the park. And I thought the representation was completely appropriate for the material. If you were a Celestial and wanted to create a race of super beings to protect humankind, why would you not make them multiple races/genders/sexual orientations? The diversity in the film makes perfect sense based on what Disney/Marvel were trying to convey.

I'm crossing my fingers that Eternals does at least as well as Shang-Chi internationally. I agree that Zhao would be a perfect choice for a rebooted X-Men franchise.

 

[psylockolussus]

Ah, given some of frequent criticisms of the film of being too many characters I don’t think too many people are going to agree with you on that, lol. I’ll see the movie soon, but from the little I’ve seen of Zhao’s work, I think she could bring a strong relatable humanity to the team.

To me what's concerning about the reviews, is I've read the reviews of the members here and how a couple of them mentioned how underused Salma Hayek and Angelina Jolie were in the movie... and the best character

Spoiler

was left out for the final battle...

I've also read criticisms for the role of Gemma Chan, Richard Madden and the actress that played Sprite. Thats siX out of the 10 Eternals.

Those criticisms are simply not what I want to read about the X-Men's reboot. I'm going to see the movie on Dec 1 (ugh that long) but some of the things Ive read about the film, just don't sound good.

 

[Lip]

I was watching Stranger Things 4 trailer.

Man, Millie Bobby Brown would've been such a great Kitty Pryde.

 

[Detective Conan]

To me what's concerning about the reviews, is I've read the reviews of the members here and how a couple of them mentioned how underused Salma Hayek and Angelina Jolie were in the movie... and the best character

Spoiler

was left out for the final battle...

I've also read criticisms for the role of Gemma Chan, Richard Madden and the actress that played Sprite. Thats siX out of the 10 Eternals.

Those criticisms are simply not what I want to read about the X-Men's reboot. I'm going to see the movie on Dec 1 (ugh that long) but some of the things Ive read about the film, just don't sound good.

Having seen the film now, I can sort of see why SuperT thinks Zhao would be a good fit for the X-Men as far capturing the team dynamics goes. Here’s an example: The film opens with the proverbial superhero team battle where the Eternals battles deviants and they show some good ol’ fashion team work with them working together, using their powers in unison to defeat the enemy. However, I don’t think there’s really much variety or creativity in use of their powers. As for the rest of the film, it’s pretty unimpressive as far as character work goes. Most of the character’s in the film I find pretty uninteresting and dry. There’s just no spark or much chemistry between any them, especially between the romantic leads Sersi and Ikaris who have the most passionate-less love scene that I’ve seen in quite some time, even for PG-13 standards.

I think I like my X-Men to have a lot more personality and charm than I saw in Eternals. A more comic accurate X-Men film should have some of sociopolitical commentary of the Black Panther film but some of the larger than life fun and character interplay of Avengers where you really root for the characters. This movie really does feel more like a Zack Snyder DC film than your typical Marvel film, and that’s very much by design as the director even confirmed that she was in fact influenced by Snyder Superman(which I know you’re not a fan of). When you watch the movie, try to keep low expectations and you might end up pleasantly surprised but I doubt you’ll be walking away from the film thinking Zhao should make an X-Men film. In fact, I think you’ll end up feeling quite the opposite.

 

[psylockolussus]

Having seen the film now, I can sort of see why SuperT thinks Zhao would be a good fit for the X-Men as far capturing the team dynamics goes. Here’s an example: The film opens with the proverbial superhero team battle where the Eternals battles deviants and they show some good ol’ fashion team work with them working together, using their powers in unison to defeat the enemy. However, I don’t think there’s really much variety or creativity in use of their powers. As for the rest of the film, it’s pretty unimpressive as far as character work goes. Most of the character’s in the film I find pretty uninteresting and dry. There’s just no spark or much chemistry between any them, especially between the romantic leads Sersi and Ikaris who have the most passionate-less love scene that I’ve seen in quite some time, even for PG-13 standards.

I think I like my X-Men to have a lot more personality and charm than I saw in Eternals. A more comic accurate X-Men film should have some of sociopolitical commentary of the Black Panther film but some of the larger than life fun and character interplay of Avengers where you really root for the characters. This movie really does feel more like a Zack Snyder DC film than your typical Marvel film, and that’s very much by design as the director even confirmed that she was in fact influenced by Snyder Superman(which I know you’re not a fan of). When you watch the movie, try to keep low expectations and you might end up pleasantly surprised but I doubt you’ll be walking away from the film thinking Zhao should make an X-Men film. In fact, I think you’ll end up feeling quite the opposite.

My eXpectations are definitely low right now.

 

[SumT]

What about not putting spoilers and details of a movie that just premiered?

 

[Detective Conan]

What about not putting spoilers and details of a movie that just premiered?

Nothing I posted was that spoilery.

 

[SumT]

I saw words talking about how the movie starts. I dont need to learn those details before even watching.

Posting details openly (without tags) of a very recent movie, that hasnt even opened in some countries is a total lack of respect to the rest of the users. Always was, always will to me.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

"Super hero film starts with battle showcasing characters and powers."

"Don't go spoiling a new movie!"


This is...

Silly.

 

[Detective Conan]

Again….not *major* spoilers. Its a minor detail to the prologue of the film that will hardly ruin the experience whenever you go and watch the movie. If, for say, Empire Strikes Back was released today, and I described on here that it starts off with a cool battle between the rebels and the Empire on a snowy planet that’s obviously not going to be on the same level as me spoiling Darth Vader being Luke’s father or something. There’s far bigger twists that occurs in Eternals for me to spoil than me saying there’s a superhero team fight at the start of the film(without even giving any context as to why they’re fighting) with them using their powers. You’re blowing this out of proportion.

 

[Silvermoth]

My friend had an idea, use the acolytes as the man villain. They are radicalised because they think Magneto is dead and it’s them who decide to blow the whole thing open and reveal the secret that mutants are real in the mcu. I thought that was a fun idea and we haven’t seen the acolytes yet plus it’s a great way to bring in Amelia voght which would also develop Charles in a seperate and distinct way to Patrick’s version

 

[psylockolussus]

The thing about having Acolytes in the first movie is it directly includes Magneto in the movie, even without an appearance. Just a mere maindrop is a big thing. I'd like to see at least two X-Men movies without anyone uttering his name.

 

[BobJM]

I would just like 1 Magneto-less X-Men movie. Please.

I think it'd be cool if the MCU went for someone/some group that is a bit more obscure and off-the-wall. I'm always pushing for Sauron as an amalgamation of the comics' Karl Lykos & John Sublime, with a variation of the U-Men (genetically-enhanced goons w/ grafted mutant abilities) as the Hyrda Winter Soliders-type henchmen. And integrate Savage Land/Krakoa. But there's plenty of other interesting options too.

• Juggernaut as a main physical threat is interesting, and he could be coupled with a secondary human threat like Friends of Humanity/ MRD/ Project Wideawake/ Sentinels. The gem of Cyttorak could tie the X-Men closer to Dr. Strange & the MCU.

• Arcade or Mojo would be fun, though I think the former would be easily to introduce in a first X-Men MCU film. Give him some personal vendetta against mutants & some fun visuals for his death traps.

• Obviously Mr. Sinister is a good candidate but I would personally like to see him as a in-the-shadows type adversary for now. He could easily fill the role of my Sauron pitch.

Additionally Shadow King or Proteus but I wouldn't want this movie to be too Professor X-focused.

 

[psylockolussus]

I would be happy to see a X-Men movie without the Professor, the Wolverine and Magneto.

 

[metaphysician]

My friend had an idea, use the acolytes as the man villain. They are radicalised because they think Magneto is dead and it’s them who decide to blow the whole thing open and reveal the secret that mutants are real in the mcu. I thought that was a fun idea and we haven’t seen the acolytes yet plus it’s a great way to bring in Amelia voght which would also develop Charles in a seperate and distinct way to Patrick’s version

Problem: this hinges on an assumed audience knowledge of a pre-existing version of Magneto. That's just a generally bad way to start a new and rebooted take on the X-Men. I mean, yes, obviously prior audience knowledge is going to be a thing going in regardless, but you really shouldn't lean on it that hard, especially when you will almost certainly want to *distinguish* your new take on Magneto from the old.

 

[Iceman]

I would be happy to see a X-Men movie without the Professor, the Wolverine and Magneto.

I definitely think we can do without Wolverine and Magneto in the first film but I want Xavier to be there to establish his dream even if he plays a smaller role after that. He certainly doesn’t need to be a field team player like McAvoy’s Xavier.

 

[Iceman]

My friend had an idea, use the acolytes as the man villain. They are radicalised because they think Magneto is dead and it’s them who decide to blow the whole thing open and reveal the secret that mutants are real in the mcu. I thought that was a fun idea and we haven’t seen the acolytes yet plus it’s a great way to bring in Amelia voght which would also develop Charles in a seperate and distinct way to Patrick’s version

As others have mentioned, this could end up relying on preexisting conceptions of Magneto. I would love to see the acolytes and Voght when the MCU does eventually introduce Magneto though.