Mental Disorders

[ang_hulk]

I think believeing that mental disorders have any tangible evidence is the only disorder humans suffer from and even it doesnt exsist.

 

[Jerry]

With the heavy alteration of the general population's food and water resources being contaminated by chemicals, preservatives, steroids and hormones, flouride, processing and refining techniques, and many other things that alter the overall composition of the nutrition most people intake, it's not hard to imagine those things having an impact on the chemical and hormonal composition of the human body. Especially across generations where certain genetic traits can be passed or even mutated in the process. Couple in an ever increasing sense of stress and a widespread lack of physical activity for most people, and you have a very nice recipe for some strang things to happen to the human organism. Mental disorders and depression are just one variant that could be a result of all this.

So, while I agree with you that some people are genuine *****es mostly as a result of the overly sensitive nature of society that has developed where people are coddled even to their detriment, there are also a lot of valid cases where depression is a very debilitating thing for many people. It's epidemic in proportion, but the strange part is that in many more primitive tribes that still function on the planet where a more natural diet and physical activity are a way of life (not to mention the lack of some of the societal hangups we have), depression isn't nearly as much of a problem. I guess it helps that they don't have drug companies that are constantly inventing new diseases that require their special pill or tonic to cure, either. Don't be so quick to write off depression as a disease, though. It's very real, most of all to the people who suffer from it.

jag

Well........agree to disagree then.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I can be OCD about certain things, hardly bad enough for medicine or therapy.

 

[Carter]

I can be very unemotional and cold sometimes, is that a mental disorder?

 

[JLBats]

I think believeing that mental disorders have any tangible evidence is the only disorder humans suffer from and even it doesnt exsist.

So you seriously think that somebody like Howard Hughes was completely normal and fine

 

[JLBats]

Well........agree to disagree then.

lol, that seems like a bit of a cop out after his huge, scientific post, doesn't it?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I can be very unemotional and cold sometimes, is that a mental disorder?

Bipolarity maybe.

 

[Alpha and Omega]

Ah, that's jes good ol' fashioned aphathy.

 

[Carter]

Prolly

 

[Darthphere]

I can be very unemotional and cold sometimes, is that a mental disorder?

No, you're just an *******.

 

[Sabretooth]

I'm bi-polar. Runs in my family. My uncle has it really bad,and my cousin has it,but it isn't nearly as extreme.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

Because alcohol is truth serum and deep down you're gay.

lol. Best missadvice i've ever seen.

Anyway, I've been diagnosed with (not suprisingly) depression and add for quite some time. I was heavily medicated for years but as of about 2 years I have been clean (as I don't trust the validity of medication for these psychological disorders, especially ADD or ADHD since it's still debatable wether or not they have any physical side to them at all).

Hmmm...maybe I should go back on treatment for depression though, that's largely physical.

Anyway, I think some other diseases I might have are hypomania, pychosis, and marxism (or whimpyiasm). I'm not sure, though. Futher diagnosis is required.


I can be very unemotional and cold sometimes, is that a mental disorder?

Carter, the only place i've seen the deadening of emotions as a symptom is psychopathy, which would make you a psychopath. I feel like I never had the illness from the beginning, but have since developed a couple of traits of the psychopath, but I totally do not have some of the other traits. I think the traits I do have come from an increasing lack of trust in people, and perhaps some kind of smearing of my perceptions of the possibilities for interpersonal connection (I see less of a connection than I feel there should be on almost all levels in almost everyone I know, and it grows as I do).

Deadening emotions is probably linked with other things, but I'd like to find out what those are.

The weird thing that might support my claim to have developed it stems from the wikipedia article, and it's probably completely bogus as a childs world is so different from an adults world anyway, but to have a quick look:

Childhood precursors

* A longer-than-usual period of bedwetting
* Cruelty to animals
* Firesetting and other vandalism.
* Lies
* Truancy
* Theft
* Aggression to peers
* Defiance of authority

None of these describe me as my child self. I wasn't the kid to be involved with any of these things, not even setting things on fire amused me, and as far as cruelty to animals, I was made fun of for protecting insects and crying when people killed them.

Now, definitions of pyschopathy

1. Superficial charm and average intelligence - not really, maybe...
2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking - nope
3. Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestation - nope
4. Unreliability. - totally no (I get extremely angry at other people when they are unreliable).
5. Untruthfulness and insincerity. - no
6. Lack of remorse or shame. -yes
7. Antisocial behavior without apparent compunction. - yes
8. Poor judgement and failure to learn from experience. -yes and sometimes
9. Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love. - yes (not when I was younger)
10. General poverty in major affective reactions. - yes
11. Specific loss of insight. - maybe (but who would I be to know, lol)
12. Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations. - yes
13. Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink, and sometimes without. - no
14. Suicide threats rarely carried out. - no
15. Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated. -yes
16. Failure to follow any life plan. -YES majorly

When I was younger I would talk on the phone with girls for sometimes 3 or more hours. That's pretty much how I kept girlfriends, but of course being a good listener doesn't seal the deal in the long run in the absence of some other things. Nowadays I get agitated when a girl keeps talking to me and talking and talking and talking. I pretty much don't find it worth it to have a steady girlfriend anymore, and cannot stand to have to "listen". I just don't find people interesting and rarely talk about even myself, I usually only enter a conversation if it has some kind of existential concern.

 

[jaguarr]

^^^
Sociopaths also sometimes report feeling little to no emotion as well.

As far as depression, 8Ball, a lot of people have great success "self medicating" their depression by cleaning up their diet and engaging in regular exercise. Don't know how much of that you do, but it might be something to explore if it's an area you haven't touched much.

jag

 

[Carter]

Childhood precursors

* A longer-than-usual period of bedwetting
* Cruelty to animals
* Firesetting and other vandalism.
* Lies - Lying phase
* Truancy - Had a school cutting phase
* Theft
* Aggression to peers
* Defiance of authority


Now, definitions of pyschopathy

1. Superficial charm and average intelligence
2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3. Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestation
4. Unreliability.
5. Untruthfulness and insincerity.
6. Lack of remorse or shame.
7. Antisocial behavior without apparent compunction.
8. Poor judgement and failure to learn from experience.
9. Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love.
10. General poverty in major affective reactions.
11. Specific loss of insight.
12. Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations.
13. Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink, and sometimes without.
14. Suicide threats rarely carried out.
15. Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated.
16. Failure to follow any life plan.

I don't know how crazy this makes me

 

[?The Question?]

****

 

[Lantern Venom]

I believe some do, but not the astronomical numbers that are reported. Some people are just *****es.

MI is serious and it would take a great deal of observation for me to dismiss someone's case as lack of fortitude. Since we can't do that from behind a computer, let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I can be very unemotional and cold sometimes, is that a mental disorder?

It depends on the extent. Do you have moments when you feel completely void of emotion and no motivation to address even the worst of situations? Do you find it difficult to empathize with the closest relationships in your life? Do you feel that the suffering or displeasure of other people is intrusive to your life? If the answer to these is yes, then I would say that there is a problem.
However, you may simply be someone who processes your feelings and tries to direct them to a favorable end. This may *seem* cold but what you are actually doing is trying to normalize your situation and problem solve. People that act very logically can often seem themselves as less caring that their more emotional counterparts but that's not always the case.

 

[War Lord]

Now, definitions of pyschopathy

1. Superficial charm and average intelligence
2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3. Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestation
5. Untruthfulness and insincerity.
6. Lack of remorse or shame.
8. Poor judgement and failure to learn from experience.
9. Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love.
10. General poverty in major affective reactions.
11. Specific loss of insight.
12. Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations.
13. Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink, and sometimes without.
16. Failure to follow any life plan.

I don't know how crazy this makes me

This sounds exactly like me, except for the "joy of hurting others and maiming them for life" part.

 

[Honey Vibe]

War Lord and Carter, if those symptoms were combined with an over-developed sense of self-preservation, you could have the complex of a sociopath. ...But without that, you're just *******s

...Hey fellas, I just got a great idea. I'm gonna go to a therapist and tell the guy everything .... EVERYTHING... and see what he diagnoses me with for amusement and recreation.

 

[War Lord]

War Lord and Carter, if those symptoms were combined with an over-developed sense of self-preservation, you could have the complex of a sociopath. ...But without that, you're just *******s

...Hey fellas, I just got a great idea. I'm gonna go to a therapist and tell the guy everything .... EVERYTHING... and see what he diagnoses me with for amusement and recreation.

The only thing that keeps from going over the edge is the fact that I refuse to do wrong, even unto my life.

 

[Honey Vibe]

The only thing that keeps from going over the edge is the fact that I refuse to do wrong, even unto my life.

Well all guffaws aside, if you have a real problem you can seek help. The best "help", though, is to stop resisting the way your psyche chooses to rearrange and heal itself.

 

[War Lord]

Well all guffaws aside, if you have a real problem you can seek help. The best "help", though, is to stop resisting the way your psyche chooses to rearrange and heal itself.

Once psychopathy has become ingrained, there is no known treatment. The only thing that can be done is hope that the psychopathic individual is choosing to not harm individuals.

Which is what I have chosen to do.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

The only thing that keeps from going over the edge is the fact that I refuse to do wrong, even unto my life.

Now what if you don't believe in any concept or right or wrong?

I mean if you were a freethinker, accepting that right and wrong are agreed upon circumstances in the overall best interest of a large sect of people, fine you probably wouldn't be able to do any harm with that.

But if you were a nihilist... this brings me to what I always search for...the parallels between nihilism and mental disorders....

I try to escape nihilism. I sometimes feel it a little, but I think many people feel it at times and don't admit to it.

 

[Danalys]

ever tried drinking mineral water. or just getting some time away from everything to relax.