Michael B Jordan IS Erik Killmonger!

[LoganGambit87]

 

[Knight-Tale]

That was his costume for maybe like half the movie
once he became king he got rid of the armor

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Sigh...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Someone beat me to it, by 12:30 hours.

 

[eon001]

Just when I thought Killmonger couldn't get any cooler.

And it turns out Michael B Jordan is a big anime head too.

I refuse to believe they killed off the character. He must LIVE!!!!

 

[Greens]

Killmonger definitely had some great lines and presence but if you think about it, he didn’t really have a lot to do. He had the museum scene. Then disappears for half the movie until he shows up in Wakanda. Then takes over, has a meaty scene with his dad, then it’s the finale. I would have liked one scene showing him actually convincing more Wakandans why they should follow him.

He showed a lot of charisma in his first scene and wish it had carried through to the Wakanda scenes.

This is why I have a hard time agreeing with people saying he's such a great villain. He doesn't really do all that much, and this is not a Hannibal Lecter type situation where he's SO mesmerizing that it doesn't matter.

 

[CB Fan]

Just got out of my second viewing and my opinion still stands. The character is written well but the performance is a bit too over done and I wish Coogler had directed MBJ to tone it down just a notch. We were all laughing/joking at work about the near permanent Rottweiler snarl present in every Wakandan scene cept the end.

 

[Stringer]

This is why I have a hard time agreeing with people saying he's such a great villain. He doesn't really do all that much, and this is not a Hannibal Lecter type situation where he's SO mesmerizing that it doesn't matter.

Considering his actions change the entire countries way of life, I'd say he did plenty.

 

[Darkness Falls]

definitely won me over with his performance
killmonger is right up their with loki for me

his theme was also great

 

[Greens]

Considering his actions change the entire countries way of life, I'd say he did plenty.

There's a difference between looking at the objective impact and the cinematic impact. Objectively, he changed the course of Wakanda's history. The way he went about it underwhelmed me.

 

[eon001]

Wow there's been alot of Killmonger is a misogynist articles in the past week. Are people missing the point of the character. He's the villain, he's not supposed to be a good person despite how sympathetic he is.

Here's a few...
https://www.themarysue.com/how-killmongers-misogyny-teaches-us-about-western-patriarchy/

https://bossip.com/1622576/editorial-you-love-kilmonger-at-the-expense-of-black-women/

 

[KevTravels]

That hairstyle was LEGENDARY

 

[Hypestyle]

There could be an intriguing short film based on Killmonger's black ops career.

There could be some good comics going way deeper into his history that you can't get into on film.

 

[KevTravels]

There could be an intriguing short film based on Killmonger's black ops career.

There could be some good comics going way deeper into his history that you can't get into on film.

This I would def enjoy seeing.

 

[Pennywise]

Killmonger is my favourite villain in the MCU movies so far!

 

[eon001]

There could be an intriguing short film based on Killmonger's black ops career.

There could be some good comics going way deeper into his history that you can't get into on film.

Yea bring back the Marvel shorts.

You can also put him on the list of potential antagonists for the Black Widow prequel movie too. He's a CIA killer that destabilizes governments. He must've passed through Russia and clashed with Black Widow. Maybe even the Winter Soldier.

 

[KevTravels]

Jordan has a lot to thank Coogler for. His role as Killmonger has effectively erased his Fantastic Four tragedy

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Jordan has a lot to thank Coogler for. His role as Killmonger has effectively erased his Fantastic Four tragedy

Eh... You are harping on something only fanboys give a crap about.

 

[Darkness Falls]

That hairstyle was LEGENDARY

this

 

[metaphysician]

Wow there's been alot of Killmonger is a misogynist articles in the past week. Are people missing the point of the character. He's the villain, he's not supposed to be a good person despite how sympathetic he is.

Here's a few...
https://www.themarysue.com/how-killmongers-misogyny-teaches-us-about-western-patriarchy/

https://bossip.com/1622576/editorial-you-love-kilmonger-at-the-expense-of-black-women/

I mean, they aren't wrong that Killmonger has a whole lot of misogynist undertones. I just think that, yes, this was deliberate, and not meant as a good thing. Erik Killmonger is supposed to be a villain where the audience ( particularly black and liberal audience-members ) find themselves cheering for him at times. . . and then stop and go "Wait. I'm cheering for a guy who casually kills women who get in his way, and advocates a bloody reign with a literal British Empire quote". One of the many complex messages in the movie is 'the dangerous allure of radical vengeance'. I suspect that the misogynist undercurrents in black culture were, if not a significant theme, at least something present in Coogler's mind.

Anyway, as another issue. . . am I the only one who reached the Killmonger vision sequence, and had the following really bleak and horrifying thought? "He's going to go into his vision. . . and there's going to be no one there." Either because his ancestors utterly rejected him, or worse, his ancestors are gone, not allowed in the Wakandan spirit realm. I kind of wonder if Coogler considered such an angle, and went otherwise because it would have been too bleak.

 

[KevTravels]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=60&v=UEhsFEgsI5U

His next role

 

[godisawesome]

I mean, they aren't wrong that Killmonger has a whole lot of misogynist undertones. I just think that, yes, this was deliberate, and not meant as a good thing. Erik Killmonger is supposed to be a villain where the audience ( particularly black and liberal audience-members ) find themselves cheering for him at times. . . and then stop and go "Wait. I'm cheering for a guy who casually kills women who get in his way, and advocates a bloody reign with a literal British Empire quote". One of the many complex messages in the movie is 'the dangerous allure of radical vengeance'. I suspect that the misogynist undercurrents in black culture were, if not a significant theme, at least something present in Coogler's mind.

Anyway, as another issue. . . am I the only one who reached the Killmonger vision sequence, and had the following really bleak and horrifying thought? "He's going to go into his vision. . . and there's going to be no one there." Either because his ancestors utterly rejected him, or worse, his ancestors are gone, not allowed in the Wakandan spirit realm. I kind of wonder if Coogler considered such an angle, and went otherwise because it would have been too bleak.

I Think Coogler wasn't just using the British Empire quote to show how Erik's not quite in the right page; notice that after chastising the British Museum curator for taking trophies from defeated enemies and displaying them with pride, he steals a mask from a non-Wakandan tribe and dons it for fun. T'Challa wasn't kidding in any way when saying Kilmonger had become his enemies.

I had some thoughts on that and the ancestral plain visits in my essay on Tumblr while waiting for my buddy to watch the film fro our podcast; in brief, I think it and his other lines show that it's a combination of not identifying as Wakandan and what he does have is still this sad little moment in time in America.

https://franchisewars.tumblr.com/post/171331888740/black-panther-review-and-sociological?is_related_post=1

 

[Kane52630]

 

[eon001]

I mean, they aren't wrong that Killmonger has a whole lot of misogynist undertones. I just think that, yes, this was deliberate, and not meant as a good thing. Erik Killmonger is supposed to be a villain where the audience ( particularly black and liberal audience-members ) find themselves cheering for him at times. . . and then stop and go "Wait. I'm cheering for a guy who casually kills women who get in his way, and advocates a bloody reign with a literal British Empire quote". One of the many complex messages in the movie is 'the dangerous allure of radical vengeance'. I suspect that the misogynist undercurrents in black culture were, if not a significant theme, at least something present in Coogler's mind.

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And that's when you stop cheering we understand that he's a villain. It's the same as Magneto. You sympathize with him up until the point he wants to destroy mankind.

It's a shame that the people that wrote the article aren't giving the audience enough credit to understand the difference between fighting injustice and extremism.

 

[Iceman]

This is the same with any badass villain. Noone is ok with what TDK Joker was actually doing to people!