BvS MOS 2 and Justice League being filmed simultaneously?

[Quasimod0]

At least Marvel is doing something with their properties, and doing something right. We've never seen the flash, wonder woman, martian manhunter, aquaman, etc in a film. And those are some of DCs biggest characters. As a DC fan, I want to see them putting out more films. So I can see some of my favorite super heroes brought to life on the big screen.

 

[kendalag]

At least Marvel is doing something with their properties, and doing something right. We've never seen the flash, wonder woman, martian manhunter, aquaman, etc in a film. And those are some of DCs biggest characters. As a DC fan, I want to see them putting out more films. So I can see some of my favorite super heroes brought to life on the big screen.

You could complain about it to Warner Bros, but they've been busy over the last decade with multiple Lord of the Rings/Hobbit films ... Harry Potter films ... Batman films ... and Academy Award winning films ... they have a full plate of stuff that's guaranteed money ... instead of taking chances with Martian Manhunter and Aquaman.

I hope we eventually see those though as they could be awesome.

 

[roach]

we are comparing two different companies.
Warner Bros is like a restaurant...they do everything extremely well.
Marvel is like a taco stand...they aren't doing steak or lobster but they will make the hell out of a taco.

 

[kendalag]

we are comparing two different companies.
Warner Bros is like a restaurant...they do everything extremely well.
Marvel is like a taco stand...they aren't doing steak or lobster but they will make the hell out of a taco.

 

[MrsKent26]

we are comparing two different companies.
Warner Bros is like a restaurant...they do everything extremely well.
Marvel is like a taco stand...they aren't doing steak or lobster but they will make the hell out of a taco.

I'm tired of tacos and the restaurant takes too goddamn long.

 

[JKKS085]

Warner Bros is like a restaurant...they do everything extremely well.

Catwoman, Constantine, Jonah Hex and Green Lantern say Hi.

I think he meant that an Iron Man film outgrossed a Batman film. Just a very poor choice of words on his part.

Yeah that's what I meant.
As for the "very poor choice of words" well english is not my first language so sue me while you're at it.

The thing is Iron Man 3 outgrossed every Batman film ever made. Which is what I implied, nothing more. And no one would have dared to hope it would be possible even 5 years ago. And here we are in 2014 with Iron Man topping every other solo super hero franchise and not just Batman (I don't want to turn this into another DC Vs Marvel thing) even Spider-Man's number got crushed.

 

[Shikamaru]

Catwoman, Constantine, Jonah Hex and Green Lantern say Hi.

I would add MOS to that as well.

 

[JKKS085]

I would add MOS to that as well.

I guess it's debatable. But no matter how many problems I have with MoS I think it's nowhere near as bad as those films (or Marvel's worst like Elektra or the Fantastic Four flicks).

I mean I just don't like the idea of excusing the fact that WB does't put a lot of their DC properties on screen just because they put more care in crafting their stories than the competition. Yes the Nolan trilogy was great but it's pretty much the only great thing WB/DC made in the past decade. They produced terrible films (Catwoman, Constantine, Jonah Hex and Green Lantern), a mediocre one (Watchmen), a couple that might be liked but ultimately failed to meet their goals (Superman Returns, Man Of Steel) and a pretty good one (V for Vendetta).

If we only talk about quality and put the box office aside, I'm really sorry to say that Marvel Studios still have a better track record.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Catwoman, Constantine, Jonah Hex and Green Lantern say Hi.

Green Lantern was a yummy ****ing meal.

 

[John-An]

Even if MoS made a billion and everyone loved it WB would be pushing their crossover in this film. Fans would slam them over and over when Nolan didn't let them do it with TDKT in the face of marvel's novelty events.

Marvel made thor, then they made avengers instead of a direct solo. What you are suggesting is that if thor was better received they would have moved on with a direct sequel(you know before they ended up doing that after they made alot of money with the crossover).

True...

 

[roach]

Catwoman, Constantine, Jonah Hex and Green Lantern say Hi.

It's not all about superheroes

http://news.yahoo.com/sony-warner-b...DMTBsZGRwY2R1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMzBHNlYwNzcg--

WB has 21 Oscar nominations this year. Tied with Sony for the most.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/warne...DMTBscWpyN3YzBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwM5BHNlYwNzcg--

The Studio took in an estimated combined global box office gross of $5.035 billion, setting a new Warner Bros. benchmark and becoming only the second studio ever to cross the $5 billion threshold. It also marked the fifth consecutive year Warner Bros. has surpassed $4 billion worldwide, which is an industry record. Globally, the Studio has now ranked #1 or #2 in nine of the past ten years, also an industry record.

 

[Herolee10]

So, if rumors are true in that they'll film a JL film shortly after filming BvS, do you guys think that we could look at all of this as just one big JL trilogy that started with MOS?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I see what you're doing, but I'll bite.

If WB didn't have Batman and Superman movie rights, I think they'd do what they've been doing. Watchmen, V For Vendetta, Green Lantern, Jonah Hex, Constantine. They just announced Sandman. More Vertigo-related titles. A History of Violence. Road to Perdition. RED. More adult-oriented material, because frankly, DC has more adult-oriented material and isn't bound by just superheroes. Really, not an amazing filmography, but they'd still put one or two out every year like they've been doing. Definitely more Vertigo stuff - Y: The Last Man, 100 Bullets, etc.

I'm not sure where the A-List stops with DC and the B-List begins, but I wouldn't put Wonder Woman, Flash, or Green Lantern on the B-list. So, nothing would be happening there. I'll admit that Batman and Superman are ultimately DC's bread and butter. But it's the same case with Spider-Man and X-Men with Marvel. The only difference is, we're talking in hypotheticals; DC actually CAN (and will) put them all together.

Marvel, for example, has second-tier characters, (and third-tier, and fourth-tier). Nobody knew who Iron Man was in 2007, and they turned that around in one year. I applaud them for that. Same with Thor. Nobody gave a damn about Thor. These Avengers characters (I'll include Ant-Man and Guardians) were like the comic books our moms picked up for us at the grocery store as a surprise, because the comics were in a bargain bin for 99 cents, and we threw them in a corner because we suddenly realized our moms were poor and couldn't afford X-Men for us.

By the way, this is a more suitable topic if the question was, "What if DC Comics started a movie studio called DC Studios, but they didn't have the movie rights to Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern?" And, "DC Studios only has the movie rights to Hawkman, Red Tornado, Metamorpho, Cyborg, and Zatanna."

If Marvel had the rights to all their characters, it would be a DISASTER. And the reason for that is that they have three-times as many characters as DC does, and that's not a good thing. Again, quantity does not equal quality. If Marvel seriously explored the idea of putting Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Captain America, ALL IN ONE MOVIE, it would be an absolute disaster. You thought Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3 was a problem? Oh boy, you couldn't imagine.

In my opinion, I LOVE that Marvel Studios doesn't have Spider-Man, X-Men or Fantastic Four. It puts them in check. I don't like shared cinematic universes all that much. I think it ends up being limiting instead of making it more expansive. Instead of opening up infinite doors and infinite possibilities, it puts everything in a corner. It does the opposite of what it should do. I'll go on record and say that I don't want WB toying around with Justice League for too long. I basically want:

Man of Steel
Batman vs. Superman
Justice League
Wonder Woman
The Flash

^ And that's it. That's all I want. If Justice League 2 is thrown in there, along with Solo Batfleck, that's fine too. But not this craziness that Marvel's doing. Let it end at some point.

Glad someone has the right idea around here.

 

[John-An]

I would add MOS to that as well.

neither yourself believes the **** you're talking about.
please don't let the hate being so notorious....

 

[Loki882]

It's not all about superheroes

http://news.yahoo.com/sony-warner-b...DMTBsZGRwY2R1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMzBHNlYwNzcg--

WB has 21 Oscar nominations this year. Tied with Sony for the most.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/warne...DMTBscWpyN3YzBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwM5BHNlYwNzcg--

The Studio took in an estimated combined global box office gross of $5.035 billion, setting a new Warner Bros. benchmark and becoming only the second studio ever to cross the $5 billion threshold. It also marked the fifth consecutive year Warner Bros. has surpassed $4 billion worldwide, which is an industry record. Globally, the Studio has now ranked #1 or #2 in nine of the past ten years, also an industry record.

That's fantastic, for everyone who isn't a DC fan. If WB wants is just going to sit on all these awesome DC properties and not actually DO ANYTHING with them, then just sell the rights. I'd prefer that WB concentrate on their other properties, since that's where their priorities seem to be, and let someone else use the DC character who will actually DO something with them, besides just Batman and Superman, rather than keep the rights and then just mouthball everything.

 

[Lord]

neither yourself believes the **** you're talking about.
please don't let the hate and envy being so notorious....

LoL

 

[DChero]

That's fantastic, for everyone who isn't a DC fan. If WB wants is just going to sit on all these awesome DC properties and not actually DO ANYTHING with them, then just sell the rights. I'd prefer that WB concentrate on their other properties, since that's where their priorities seem to be, and let someone else use the DC character who will actually DO something with them, besides just Batman and Superman, rather than keep the rights and then just mouthball everything.

I agree to an extent. I wish that WB would focus on putting out more DC superhero products, but I do have to admit that I enjoy the ones that they put out over the ones that Marvel usually does. My favorites are MoS, TDKT, X-Men (except 3), Avengers and Raimi's Spider-man trilogy. The solo Marvel movies never really mattered to me, but they aren't bad. I just feel like the ones that I enjoy the most are the ones that get the most focus from their respective studios.

 

[roach]

That's fantastic, for everyone who isn't a DC fan. If WB wants is just going to sit on all these awesome DC properties and not actually DO ANYTHING with them, then just sell the rights. I'd prefer that WB concentrate on their other properties, since that's where their priorities seem to be, and let someone else use the DC character who will actually DO something with them, besides just Batman and Superman, rather than keep the rights and then just mouthball everything.

WB is a film studio that can't cater to one type of film fan. I'd like for them to make more superhero films but that's not what the studio is about and it's kept them deep in the black for a long time. Yes Marvel has made more superhero films than WB but that's all they have to make. So WB is going to do what it can with the superheroes...while putting out films for everyone.
So yes it sucks that WB isn't giving us our yearly superhero fix and maybe it's a good thing.

 

[LaserBees]

WB is a film studio that can't cater to one type of film fan. I'd like for them to make more superhero films but that's not what the studio is about and it's kept them deep in the black for a long time. Yes Marvel has made more superhero films than WB but that's all they have to make. So WB is going to do what it can with the superheroes...while putting out films for everyone.

It just sucks for DC fans that our favorite heroes are controlled by a company that doesn't care as much about them.

So yes it sucks that WB isn't giving us our yearly superhero fix and maybe it's a good thing.

I think it would be good if WB made quality films with all of our favorite characters, and made a quality film about the Justice League, and gave us a larger DC universe realized on the big screen. You know, as opposed to not making anything at all for years while Marvel continues to make amazing movies with their characters.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I think they should have greenlit DC films with non-powered superheroes that can be done on a lower budget with minimal CG. Green Arrow, Batgirl, Knightwing, that kind of thing.

 

[BH/HHH]

^ I think they should have greenlit DC films with non-powered superheroes that can be done on a lower budget with minimal CG. Green Arrow, Batgirl, Knightwing, that kind of thing.

Blue Beetle

 

[Caekzor]

while Marvel continues to make amazing movies with their characters.

Highly subjective.

 

[The Riddler]

i not only hope it's true, but it makes sense. JL was always the end result. pushing back BvS a year works if it also means their ultimate goal of JL is pushed forward to just one year afterwards.

 

[The Guard]

I don't get the Marvel or the DC hate frankly. I want both of them to succeed because comic films that do well in the mainstream means both companies have a better chance at exploiting their properties.

This.

The "rivalry" is so, so stupid, and most of the arguments against one studio are the other are clearly biased. There are arguments to be made about approach and such, but it's gotten ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure this:

Man of Steel
Batman vs. Superman
Justice League
Wonder Woman
The Flash

is indeed what we are getting from WB in the near future. With sequels and solo Batman films and AQUAMAN if WONDER WOMAN and THE FLASH succeed.

And that suits me just fine.

 

[Herolee10]

Why do I get the feeling that this is what we can expect to be our overall line up villains...

1. MOS: General Zod

2. BVS: Lex Luthor

3. JL: Brainiac