MPAA Rating (Note: Officially PG-13)

[RedIsNotBlue]

The R movies that make money don't have the huge budget Ghost Rider has.

 

[TheVileOne]

I've seen movies about Satan and God and Hell and Demons and Angels that was rated G before so, I don't buy that argument.

Which ones were rated G?

You're right on the R rated movie thing, I don't disagree, they can and do make money. I keep saying, it's not the rating that makes a movie good, it's the movie itself. The rating is just a couple of letters and/or numbers giving it a catagory.

I care more about the movie being good. And if the R rating is the difference in giving it the content it should have instead of it being a neutered PG-13 film like AVP, then there you go.

 

[TheVileOne]

The R movies that make money don't have the huge budget Ghost Rider has.

I honestly don't see why Ghost Rider should have such a huge budget. This is not the Hulk or Spider-man we are talking about here.

Also, plenty R-rated movies have big budgets.

 

[FlameHead]

But it is that big. The special effects alone make it that big.

 

[TheVileOne]

Well, we'll see if it works or if we have to wait for a superior version on DVD again.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I honestly don't see why Ghost Rider should have such a huge budget. This is not the Hulk or Spider-man we are talking about here.

The main character has a ****ing CGI flaming skull. There is gonna be a ton of effect shots in this film. The budget isn't Spidey or Hulk big but its still big at least 100 million.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Also, plenty R-rated movies have big budgets.

Didn't say there wasn't.

 

[TheVileOne]

The main character has a ****ing CGI flaming skull. There is gonna be a ton of effect shots in this film. The budget isn't Spidey or Hulk big but its still big at least 100 million.

So? Nicholas Cage isn't going to have a flaming skull for the entire movie. There are going to be more scenes of him without a flaming skull.

How much is the budget? $120 million? That's equivalent to X-men 2 and Fantastic Four range.

 

[TheVileOne]

Didn't say there wasn't.

You kind of did:

The R movies that make money don't have the huge budget Ghost Rider has.

Alright maybe not quite as huge, but they are huge.

 

[FlameHead]

I'm personally not fond of classifying movies by their budget. Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

So? Nicholas Cage isn't going to have a flaming skull for the entire movie. There are going to be more scenes of him without a flaming skull.

How much is the budget? $120 million? That's equivalent to X-men 2 and Fantastic Four range.

I know. That was just one of the many examples of uses of CGI in the film and fire is very hard to do.

And yes that is the same range as those movies and they are PG-13 which is exactly my point. When the budget gets that high an R rating is pretty much thrown out.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm personally not fond of classifying movies by their budget. Doesn't make sense to me.

Do you see me doing it? It's you and RedIsNotBlue that are.

 

[TheVileOne]

I know. That was just one of the many examples of uses of CGI in the film and fire is very hard to do.

And yes that is the same range as those movies and they are PG-13 which is exactly my point. When the budget gets that high an R rating is pretty much thrown out.

IMHO, the budget for a Ghost Rider movie does not need to be as high as an X-men film, a Hulk film, or Fantastic Four film.

Ghost Rider is not nor has he ever been a heavy hitter character.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

You kind of did:



Alright maybe not quite as huge, but they are huge.

Uhhh no I didnt buddy. I said R movies dont get the budget Ghost Rider is getting because a good profit cant be made. Can you find me an R movie that has had the same range budget as Ghost Rider?

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

IMHO, the budget for a Ghost Rider movie does not need to be as high as an X-men film, a Hulk film, or Fantastic Four film.

Ghost Rider is not nor has he ever been a heavy hitter character.

Okay thats nice. Doesnt change the fact thats what the budget it is therefore it gets a PG-13.

 

[TheVileOne]

Uhhh no I didnt buddy. I said R movies dont get the budget Ghost Rider is getting because a good profit cant be made. Can you find me an R movie that has had the same range budget as Ghost Rider?

Terminator 2.

Terminator 3.

The Matrix Reloaded.

The Matrix Revolutions.

Constantine.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Terminator 2.

Terminator 3.

The Matrix Reloaded.

The Matrix Revolutions.

Well those are sequels to hugely successful first films. And 4?? Its very rare.

 

[TheVileOne]

Well those are sequels to hugely successful films. And 4?? Its very rare.

You didn't say they couldn't be sequels.

You said "find me an R rated film in the same budget range as Ghost Rider." You asked me to find you ONE. I found you 4.

The first Terminator was not hugely successful.

Most people at this point would say:

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Well you said "find me an R rated film in the same budget range as Ghost Rider." You asked me to find you ONE. I found you 4.

The first Terminator was not hugely successful. It was more of a cult, sleeper hit for its time. It did not make anything close to the budget of the second movie.

Lol. Didn't say it never happened I just asked if you could find me one. My point is that is very uncommon for a movie with that big of budget to get an R rating ESPECIALLY with the recent box office slump. And Vile...is it possible for you to make one post without being a pretentious *****ebag. Quit being so nahnah nah nahnah with your posts.

 

[TheVileOne]

Lol. Didn't say it never happened I just asked if you could find me one. My point is that is very uncommon for a movie with that big of budget to get an R rating ESPECIALLY with the recent box office slump.

Well that's not what you said. You asked me to find you one. I found you four.

And CONSTANTINE. There that's 5. And Constantine came out in 2005.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Good for you. Ghost Rider is gonna be PG-13. And Constantine couldn't even make back its budget domestically which just goes to show.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's cute that you keep saying that Red, even though you were:

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Yeah sure you owned me. Your originality blows me away. Now go be pretentious somewhere else cutie pie.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's a panda in a little car Red, its not pretentious, its adorable .

I'm not trying to be pretentious. And I felt I've made some valid points.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Yes you have along and so have I. Now lets just leave it at that.