My Brother Threatened to Kill Me

[DOG LIPS]

My take is that would mean having your nephew kick his ass?

jag

I meant punch him, but jag's idea is just as solid.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

1) yes and no, they make him do some work but help him make right choices (with an argument on his end)
2)not unless forced. which is a no afterall
3) yea

Obviously, he seems upset about something. Have you tried asking your brother what is bothering him?

 

[Sofa]

Have you tried asking your brother what is bothering him?

Its not that simple.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Its not that simple.

You wouldn't know unless its been tried.

 

[Sofa]

You wouldn't know unless its been tried.

I do know. End of story.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

I do know. End of story.

You can't dismiss an untried approach just because "you know."

Its not that simple.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

If Venom Droll and his family are as dismissive as you, Sofa, then I can see how his brother could have become the way he is...

 

[Sofa]

You can't dismiss an untried approach just because "you know."

Its not that simple.

Right, wtv.

 

[DOG LIPS]

I don't know why, but I think the solution to this problem is VD mailing Sofa to me. I can't explain how I know. I just... know.

 

[Drakon]

Okay, I know you're not gonna want to hear this. It's gotta be said.

You need to kick your brother's ass. And I don't mean punch him once or twice. I mean, quite possibly, put him in traction. From what I can tell, he's in a state where he thinks he's king. He's not. Someone needs to make a man out of him. He's not going to listen to reason. If you challange him, he's going to run. You need to chase him. Beat the holy **** out of him. Since you're over 18, yes, this could very well get you in a lot of legal trouble. But if your folks are not for using meds, and your brother doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground apparently, someone's gotta stand up to him. With no disrespect meant, it's pretty obvious your dad isn't going to, and it's not your mom's place. Once you show him that you [as a group] are not scared of him, then he's ess tee eff you. From there, you can take more rational paths to saving your family. Blood may be thicker than water, but it's no fun to swim in, if you get my meaning.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Okay, I know you're not gonna want to hear this. It's gotta be said.

You need to kick your brother's ass. And I don't mean punch him once or twice. I mean, quite possibly, put him in traction. From what I can tell, he's in a state where he thinks he's king. He's not. Someone needs to make a man out of him. He's not going to listen to reason. If you challange him, he's going to run. You need to chase him. Beat the holy **** out of him. Since you're over 18, yes, this could very well get you in a lot of legal trouble. But if your folks are not for using meds, and your brother doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground apparently, someone's gotta stand up to him. With no disrespect meant, it's pretty obvious your dad isn't going to, and it's not your mom's place. Once you show him that you [as a group] are not scared of him, then he's ess tee eff you. From there, you can take more rational paths to saving your family. Blood may be thicker than water, but it's no fun to swim in, if you get my meaning.

A mindless solution for mindless people. For the most part, it is befitting, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt whenever I can. Though that doubt is probably misplaced in Venom Drool and his kin...

 

[X-Ray]

ill give a little bit of history before i begin

my brother has always had problems within our family. be it on the outside with friends, the family members which include aunts uncles etc and especially with my mother father and myself.

we arent a completely happy family at the same time, because my actions and my brothers, we have forced my parents to get into spats as well (im aware that it isnt really our fault as its a communication problem between the two of them)

my brother cannot be talked to as everything.. from how was your day to did you have a good time leads into the person posing the question to get yelled at or be disrespected. the first thought is that my parents mut have done something wrong with him. but no. that isnt the case. in fact they are likely some of the best parents out there always giving and never recieving. for example, bringing us to our hockey practices, soccer practices, getting us cellphones, computers in rooms, vacations, our own tvs, sattlelite dishes for them, not paying rent, food on the table.. and all they ask is for us to clean our rooms. haha.. the easy life.. to some we might be spoiled..and to some degree we are but my brother is an extreme cause.

he works and goes to school which is all payed for by my parents, who also helped him with his car. a seperate more complicated issue so i wont even start talking about how that came about. now he pretty much goes to work, sometimes, if he chooses to, goes to school and then goes out to see friends and go clubbing etc etc.. hes never home other than to sleep and have the occasional meal. he cannot stand our presence as like i said earlier, jumps at the chance to roll his eyes, act exhasperated and so on and so forth.

its gotten to the point where hes crossed a very important line between parent and son. hes called my parents *******s, ****ers, told them to go **** themselves, told them how they are crazy, told them to jump out the window, or kill themselves (which is immediately followed by a justification why he would say such a thing as if its excusable). though of course.. after a day or hours straigght of back in forth yelling about the same topics. he apologizes and my parents reluctantly accept. not with open arms of course. imagine your son telling you these things as you try and reason with him about something thats so illogical. being a third party and caring about my brother, 95% of the time, trying to be the voice that brings him down to earth, he is always in the wrong. always. because he reacts so easily to everything.

now the situation at hand was this. my dad asks him at the dinner table (where everything always happens) are you coming home after school tomorrow (he has work late at night about 4 hours after hes done).. my brother responds, what?! what else would i be doing? my father responds i wanted to know if youd be home for dinner, while in the process my brother pulls this exhasperated look (more like a look of hatred), and continues eating not looking at my father. i say, he just wanted to know- and im cut off by my brother who tells me to shut the **** up. of course, my father is opposed to this and says don't talk that way in a tone that means buisness. my brother says, tel lhim to shut up and thats that, i let go a breathe.. a sigh really just over the ridiculousness of the situation. and my brother threatens.. ill hit him if he doesnt shut up. my dad in the process of telling him hed do no such thing.. hits me.

we both get up from our chairs (i dont take being hit lightly as i put up with it from him for so many years of my childhood) and my dad gets up trying to control the situation.

my brother yells how i should shut up and howll hell kick my ass and i laugh and tell him to try it. .which he doesnt do.

during this time my brother runs away from my dad who is telling him to go to his room.my brother saying no. and this goes on for a bit. my dad says get the hel out of the house (final straw) and my brother refuses. after sometime he says fine. im leaving. gets his stuff. my dad says gimem back the key and again brother refuses. more back in forth around the sofa. think cartoon cat and mouse. my dad is trying to get him to leave. and me.. being disgusted and wanted him to leave.. try to continue lreasoning with him..telling him that all my dad asked was if your coming home.. how our mother (who he was saying hed tell the whole situation to) will not agree with him because whatever he thinks did happen doesnt justify what he is doing. he screams fo r me to shut up and then says it (i am only his brother), that i should go jump off a bridge (this mind you is all yelling..screaming at full power). i continure telling him to simply leave the keys and leave because hes crossed a line he thinks he has the right to cross. when he gives up the keys he walks to the door calmly..then turns his heels to me wanting to hit me. i dont hit him back as hes on top of me..and hes a coward (and i guess his body knows whats hes doing is wrong) and sorta is jut on top of me... my dad holds him back..as my brother..the ****ing animal is trying to still get at me while i stand there is disbeleif..screaming how hell kill me, hell kill me, watch my back tomorrow at work, hell kill me... saying how much hes done for me.. which includes giving me lifts to my girlfriends house (hes done that 3 times in 2 years) and numbers for my hockey jersey (a birthday and chritmas presnt).. i say that its al lmaterial.. thats not the most importnat thing thats given to someone.. then again..hell kill me

im afraid a bit i must say. hes threatened to do it before, but this looked heart felt. i know .. im so very sure that hell walk back into the house and in 2 weeks, everything be as it were. but i dont think i will ever talk to him again. i dont think i should. so i needed to get that off my chest.. i think a msg board will help me out.. even if none of you bother reading this. thanks

Sounds like my older brother from a couple of years ago. He used to threaten to kill me and even pulled out a knife on me. At least 3 times he pulled a out knife. He had a good reason ... seeing how he can't fight worth a damn.

Jail time and 3 months of anger management soften him up somewhat. It'll do the same for your bully of an brother as well

 

[Colossal Spoons]

This is when i hate the fact that we live so far apart. Its very cold to know i cant be there.

And this is beyond scary to me...

What happens now? And no way to know if hes really ok...

How far apart exactly

 

[Outsiderzedge]

About clobbering his brother; they should determine the root of his behavior before administering something as drastic as violence. If he is indeed simply trying them, then violence, though vulgar, would be an effective response. If it is deeper than that, it will most assuredly make matters worse...

 

[Outsiderzedge]

How far apart exactly

I love that you're black. Black people rule!

 

[Sofa]

How far apart exactly

Not thatfar by car, but by bus its a good hour. And it sounds silly, but not being able to be close to him when these things happen is so hard.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I love that you're black. Black people rule!

Haha, your detective skills are uncanny. You gathered that from my post

I do wanna give you props for suggesting a non-violent approach first b/c everybody else seems to want VD to clobber his brother. His brother is crazy and you don't just spring into battle with crazy people.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Not thatfar by car, but by bus its a good hour. And it sounds silly, but not being able to be close to him when these things happen is so hard.

Yes, how "silly"...

Everyone here seems so dysfunctional...

What exactly is silly about wanting to be there for someone you care about...

 

[DOG LIPS]

Haha, your detective skills are uncanny. You gathered that from my post

I do wanna give you props for suggesting a non-violent approach first b/c everybody else seems to want VD to clobber his brother. His brother is crazy and you don't just spring into battle with crazy people.

Man up, son! Man up!!

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Not thatfar by car, but by bus its a good hour. And it sounds silly, but not being able to be close to him when these things happen is so hard.

Oh no, I know. My ex's ex-bf was definately starting trouble and here I am; an hour and 45 mins away at college....with no car. Talk about pulling my hair out.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Man up, son! Man up!!

I could round up my homies and we could Cryme Tyme him. Canada isn't THAT far from me.

 

[Sofa]

Yes, how "silly"...

Everyone here seems so dysfunctional...

What exactly is silly about wanting to be there for someone you care about...

Would you just stop acting like a huge smartass...wow.

 

[Drakon]

A mindless solution for mindless people. For the most part, it is befitting, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt whenever I can. Though that doubt is probably misplaced in Venom Drool and his kin...

Quite the opposite. I speak from experience.

About clobbering his brother; they should determine the root of his behavior before administering something as drastic as violence. If he is indeed simply trying them, then violence, though vulgar, would be an effective response. If it is deeper than that, it will most assuredly make matters worse...

Not if he won't listen to reason, which seems to be the case.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Would you just stop acting like a huge smartass...wow.

Please excuse me if you were being sarcastic in your previous post. It was not apparent.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Quite the opposite. I speak from experience.



Not if he won't listen to reason, which seems to be the case.

No offense, but experience does not necessarily constitute thought.

Listen to reason?

They haven't even asked him what is bothering him...