My worries about Planet Hulk...

[dabig2]

Hulk fanboys are the worst....I fear a flood of idiots like this once this event is over

Muwahahahaha

My look into what the Hulk is: He reminds me of a faucet. His power shown is always been as a constant drip, only in some feats having the valve turned to produce a decent stream. That's the key to beating him before, turn off the valve (knock out the Hulk or calm him) before it overflows. What happens if the valve is turned so much now that the pressure has blown that valve off and the water is flowing uncontrollably violent? You can't stop it so easily and suddenly everything around you is inundated.
IMO, that's a writer's "copout" to whatever feat the Hulk performs. "He was just really really angry". I don't really see anything too outrageous in him giving a beat down to the majority of the heroes on earth, at least not to the extent that I've seen other people claim. You would think it were Squirrel Girl here doing battle.

Anyways, it's not like BB is going to let out a scream, which will kill all his fellow inhumans who are just in the front yard, break up the moon, and thus killing god knows how many on earth. I'd say BB's defeat will be the most logical out of any of the others. What reason would there be for a Pyhrric victory that destroys all life?

And the Sentry? The faucet idea works perfectly for him. He's always just a trickle or merely just "off". We'll likely never see him in a constant flow. Regardless, I see Hulk not overpowering him, but using psychology and his emotions against him. Sentry is...a little unstable at times. And he apparently knows the Hulk almost better than anyone since their little adventures.

The Initiative....does one single ant calling up his colony have a chance against you in the real world? Hulk has friends anyhow, that includes 3 other Class 100s. But, I digress, that the Initiative will probably the trump card in the end since the writers have alluded as much. You Initiative-faithful will probably get your wish. Maybe Cloud 9 will choke the Hulk with a cloud.....

Worries are warranted, but Hulk strength won't be the only factor here and I think Marvel has made that clear. This event should be an enjoyable one. At least, moreso than Civil War and the House of M/Decimation I hope.

 

[ang_hulk]

hulk could stand up to most of the people hes going to go fight,dr strange is a different story but he deserves to go down just as bad.hulk swallowed,chewed and threw up reed,has bashed the finsih off iron man plenty of times,has tangled with black bolt,fought subby(who prolly isnt a maint target) and tagled with prof x way before all this.you saying he has no chance with them is faulse.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I doubt it. This whole event is going to have a huge anti-climax.

I personally don't see it that way.

Sure, we know what Hulk isnt going to win at the end of it all, for the very reasons you stated before - that's pretty much a given - but it's what happens along the way which is the selling point.

There's going to be major throwdowns in this arc and it's gonna be interesting (to me at least) to see what develops.

Those preview pages have only confirmed by belief.

 

[hippy fascist]

personally I think world war hulk is intended to simply cement the reputation of the initiative. kind of a, "we would have been really screwed if all the heroes weren't organised into a well trained army" trip

But i may just be being paranoid

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The powers we've seen from Initiative recruits so far haven't convinced me that they'll make a lick of difference against the Hulk. War Machine's probably got the best chance against the Hulk of the people we've seen, but he's basically just Iron Man with more guns and we already know Iron Man's gonna get his ass stomped.

 

[Darthphere]

The powers we've seen from Initiative recruits so far haven't convinced me that they'll make a lick of difference against the Hulk. War Machine's probably got the best chance against the Hulk of the people we've seen, but he's basically just Iron Man with more guns and we already know Iron Man's gonna get his ass stomped.

The Initiative involves every hero that is registered Corp. Including, the Mighty Avengers.

 

[hippy fascist]

The Initiative involves every hero that is registered Corp. Including, the Mighty Avengers.

and the thunderbolts.

The united front thing could be key

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but the Mighty Avengers are still generally called "the Mighty Avengers," so I figured hippy was just talking about the people in Avengers: The Initiative. If we're talking about the entire Initiative... honestly, I still don't really see them making much of a difference. The Sentry's the only one who might. The Hulk's supposed to be much stronger now than he's ever been before, and the Hulk's kicked just about every ass in the Initiative already. The fact that the registered heroes don't include the likes of Dr. Strange, the Silver Surfer, or most other cosmic heroes is pretty bad for them. There's always the strength in numbers idea, but the Hulk's not alone--he's got the Warbound and, probably within another issue or two of his comic, Hercules, She-Hulk, Namora, and Angel. With the exception of Angel and maybe a couple of the Warbound, they're all very powerful badasses while most of the Initiativites are not.

 

[hippy fascist]

maybe at the end of WWH thor will make his return proper to the marvel u finally beating down that green punk

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Depends on what power level he's at. Rune Thor, sure. Probably even King Thor. Regular Thor? Not so much with the beating down of the Hulk before he was "stronger than ever." There have been rumors on other message boards that there'll be two Thors when he comes back--Rune Thor as king of Asgard and an avatar Thor closer to Thor's pre-Odinpower levels who'll be bonded to DB and acting as a superhero.

 

[Darthphere]

Depends on what power level he's at. Rune Thor, sure. Probably even King Thor. Regular Thor? Not so much with the beating down of the Hulk before he was "stronger than ever." There have been rumors on other message boards that there'll be two Thors when he comes back--Rune Thor as king of Asgard and an avatar Thor closer to Thor's pre-Odinpower levels who'll be bonded to DB and acting as a superhero.

How does this make you feel?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Tingly.

 

[UK_Stu]

personally I think world war hulk is intended to simply cement the reputation of the initiative. kind of a, "we would have been really screwed if all the heroes weren't organised into a well trained army" trip

But i may just be being paranoid

I agree with your sentiments here. It's like they needed a threat big enough that all the heroes would need to work together to defeat - proving once and for all the SHRA was a good thing and Civil war wasn't a complete waste of time.

geez - I spend 4 weeks in Budapest with no comics, limited internet access and this is one of the things I come back too

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

That's pretty much my biggest worry about Planet Hulk as well.

Hulk should have no defense against Dr. Strange. None whatsoever. A billion puppies will die the day that Hulk manages to beat Strange with his one single offensive superpower of punching things really hard. Except that for this story to work, he has to be a huge threat to Strange.

Ther's been hints recently that some of earth's heroes may actually back the Hulk on this...specifically Dr. Strange and the New Avengers...

 

[hippy fascist]

I agree with your sentiments here.

And that is why you are awesome

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Ther's been hints recently that some of earth's heroes may actually back the Hulk on this...specifically Dr. Strange and the New Avengers...

That would be odd. More importantly, would the Hulk even let them, given Strange's complicity in sending him off-world?

 

[Darthphere]

That would be odd. More importantly, would the Hulk even let them, given Strange's complicity in sending him off-world?

I'm pretty much sure that it'll be Hercule and Angel, with possibly Iceman and Black Widow (which would be interesting) as the Champions owe him the benefit of the doubt. There was that image in the Giant Sized Hulk issue with 10 blacked out characters, but I think we can assume some of those are his war party.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

That would be odd. More importantly, would the Hulk even let them, given Strange's complicity in sending him off-world?

Not sure. But the current Wizard's WWH article hints that some sort of reconciliation between the two may happen.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I'm pretty much sure that it'll be Hercule and Angel, with possibly Iceman and Black Widow (which would be interesting) as the Champions owe him the benefit of the doubt.

Perhaps, but i dont see Warren siding with The Hulk when he attacks Professor Xavier and the school....and there has also been an image released of Hercules and Hulk fighting....

Anyway; it's gonna be real interesting to see what unfolds...

 

[hippy fascist]

I'm pretty much sure that it'll be Hercule and Angel, with possibly Iceman and Black Widow (which would be interesting) as the Champions owe him the benefit of the doubt. There was that image in the Giant Sized Hulk issue with 10 blacked out characters, but I think we can assume some of those are his war party.

If they do a herc vs stark one on one I'll have to order a laminated copy :heart:

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

If they do a herc vs stark one on one I'll have to order a laminated copy :heart:

Iron Man rolled all over Herc in Avengers #163.

(and Black Widow and Iceman as well)

 

[hippy fascist]

Perhaps, but i dont see Warren siding with The Hulk when he attacks Professor Xavier and the school....and there has also been an image released of Hercules and Hulk fighting....

Anyway; it's gonna be real interesting to see what unfolds...

There's one key thing you're forgetting here. Xavier's not too popular with the core x-men at the moment. We haven't really feltthe effects yet because he's been off in space but when he gets back there's going to be some major tension and possibly a split straight down the middle.

Scott in particular will not be keen to follow xavier and where scott goes usually beast, iceman and (to a lesser extent) warren will tend to follow. The fact that they've had a good few months to stew in terms of how the feel about him plus his arrival pretty much coinciding with the chaos WWH will bring...it's not exactly going to be little house on the prairie when he gets back

 

[hippy fascist]

Iron Man rolled all over Herc in Avengers #163.

(and Black Widow and Iceman as well)

Herc will see it as justce for steve's murder.

His engine will be running on vengeance

He's going to rip stark a new one and it's gonna be BEAUTIFUL!

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

There's one key thing you're forgetting here. Xavier's not too popular with the core x-men at the moment. We haven't really feltthe effects yet because he's been off in space but when he gets back there's going to be some major tension and possibly a split straight down the middle.

Scott in particular will not be keen to follow xavier and where scott goes usually beast, iceman and (to a lesser extent) warren will tend to follow. The fact that they've had a good few months to stew in terms of how the feel about him plus his arrival pretty much coinciding with the chaos WWH will bring...it's not exactly going to be little house on the prairie when he gets back

Perhaps, but keep in mind that Xavier has been like a father to Warren. And we already know that Hank will be one of the first old-schoolers to intercept The Hulk.

Families and friends argue and disagree all the time, but when an outside force threatens, it's not unusual for tensions and wounded feelings to be cast aside...

Remember; we're talking about people that Warren has lived and fought alongside for at LEAST a decade...maybe longer, versus some one (in this case, The Hulk) whom he has met less than half a dozen times in his life.

 

[Horrorfan]

I am pretty sure there are a lot of peeps at the x institute that could take hulk, especially as a team...