Dr. Fate
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My bad.kah said:Doesn't work for me, and my initial reaction to the question is that it's an insult to rape victims (well, you asked what we thought).
My bad.kah said:Doesn't work for me, and my initial reaction to the question is that it's an insult to rape victims (well, you asked what we thought).
Agreed.danoyse said:Oh, I hope she doesn't forgive him. She's too smart for that.
In fact, if she and Magneto wind up getting their powers back, I'd think Magneto better watch out for Mystique. He left her like that and didn't care what happened to her.
Sun_Down said:Kind of a plothole, huh?
That is what I thought when I saw the movie. Magneto knew Mystique well enouph to know that she would betray him.kah said:not really, this one is okay with me. She easily could have known where the location was. And one could say that Magneto knew she would betray him, which is why he had MM pull off the illusion. That works.
Mothling said:I wouldn't have thought of that. Rebecca really did do the scene superbly, really giving off a feeling of total shame and humiliation.
Mystique_Lover said:I'm not saying she SHOULD forgive him i am saying that i think the writers have left it open for that, and if there is a new bad guy in X4 ie. Sinister then having a Mags group a Mystique group and an X-men group along with the humans would be a bit confusing don't you think ?
Mystique joining the X-Men may finally give us the chance to see her and Rogue having an actual conversation. We deserve that, seeing as how she was Rogue's foster mother for a time in the comics.micky-fox said:Not if Mystique was out on her own, trying to get revenge on the man who betrayed her in her darkest hour. She could even side with the X-Men or go in disguise as one of The Brotherhood and try and cripple him from the inside.
Kevin Roegele said:The problem with that scene is, because of the shots Ratner chose, you're not thinking how emotional it is, you're thinking, "Heyyyyy....she's naked".
Kevin Roegele said:The problem with that scene is, because of the shots Ratner chose, you're not thinking how emotional it is, you're thinking, "Heyyyyy....she's naked".
Denny67 said:Nothing wrong with naken but Agreed 100%.
Had he shot that and stayed in close (but not too close) to feel the pain for both her and Magneto, That moment that could have been conveyed much better and a lot more dramatically IMO.
I would lost a lot of the dialog, especially the line where Mags said you are not one of us anymore. IMO in that moment almost everything should have been felt through imagery and music (score).
Where you should have seen the full body shot of her is as Magneto and the rest of them were leaving the truck. A shot of them walking and talking in a somber tone at the camera. As they walk and pass the camera it cuts to the inside of the truck still close on Mystique. As the camera pans back and up, this is where you see her lying on the floor naked, vulnerable and looking very lost. The camera pans back, back and up with her frozen with fear and loss. Her head drops between her arms, she lays there curled in a ball, crushed. Fade to black end of scene. Cut!
Thats a wrap Intern! Get me a Starbucks!
This scene also gives much more weight to her actions later in the movie. You get a real sense of how devoted she is to the cause.
Mr. Socko said:I hated Magneto leaving her behind.
Works for me.Drago said:I kind of enjoyed it- Magneto is all about humans being inferior and having so much pride in your gifts, so suddenly throwing him in a situation that challenged that was pretty cool. I think either choice (leaving her or not) would involve a pretty equal amount of sacrifice. Plus it just made it that much more sad and that much more of a loss of identity for her, having her lose Eric.
I just wish that there was a different ending for Mags than that last minute chess scene, where we see the two of them reunited as humans- they each felt more alienated than ever being human, so having them able to identify with eachother after being cured would have been good closure for their relationship I think (sad, but fitting).