NBC's ''Timeless''

[Dark Raven]

There's no way they can wrap up this whole story in the next two episodes, so either it will have to go to a second season, or the series will end on a cliffhanger never to be resolved.

 

[ComicChick]

i dont think she's on the show enough to where she would have conflicts in schedule

 

[Osiris-Rex]

There's no way they can wrap up this whole story in the next two episodes, so either it will have to go to a second season, or the series will end on a cliffhanger never to be resolved.

And the last few episodes don't really seem to be going anywhere that there is going to be a conclusion without it being terribly rushed. It's a fun enough
show with each individual episode, but I think the time machine having spinning wheels is an apt metaphor for the show, because the show seems
to be just spinning its wheels.

 

[SV Fan]

I was surprised to find out there is only 1 more episode left. It's sort of weird that when Quantico moved to Monday I was like oh no I have 5 shows to watch now on Mondays(Quantico, Scorpion, Timeless, Supergirl and Gotham) and now 2 of those shows are gone for the time being

 

[ComicChick]

timeless was only lit for 13 eps season 1 right?
great casting for Capone. When I saw who was cast as Ness, i thought he'd be around a lot longer.

this is the kinda nail biting ending i've been waiting for in an ep, yet dreading all the same lol. pretty solid episode for the most part.

shoutout to the Rufus virus lol

 

[SV Fan]

timeless was only lit for 13 eps season 1 right?

According to the tv guide

http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCGrid.do?aid=tvschedule&fromTimeInMillis=1487640679756

It looks like it's the season finale, so I don't think it's a case it's going on hiatus then come back in 2 months

 

[Shifty]

timeless was only lit for 13 eps season 1 right?
great casting for Capone. When I saw who was cast as Ness, i thought he'd be around a lot longer.

this is the kinda nail biting ending i've been waiting for in an ep, yet dreading all the same lol. pretty solid episode for the most part.

shoutout to the Rufus virus lol

The initial order was for 13 and when the show was a ratings disappointment considering how Blindspot did much better in the demo and with viewers (for the first 8 episodes), they only gave the series an additional 3 episodes.

Which is too bad as I've found Timeless to be a better show than Blindspot. I don't get why the show connect with a big enough fan base. It's actually one of the few network shows that I do watch.

NBC is likely going to air Jason Katims' Drama High after The Voice next year after finding success with This Is Us.

 

[General Mike]

Is it a rule that Mason Industries and Rittenhouse have imposed?

Or is it an actual rule of time travel, that they can't go back to a time where they've actually been, because of some kind of temporal implosion from running into another version of themselves?

It would be interesting to see if they do break this rule.

But aren't they doing that already next week? I thought they've already run into Elliot Ness and Al Capone before not that long ago. Didn't they have to help Elliot Ness out?

It's just one of those rules of time travel. Don't kill your grandfather, etc. and don't run into yourself.

As far as Ness and Capone, that was the Legends of Tomorrow that ran into them. Seems like the 2 shows have had a lot of overlap this year of the time periods they have traveled to, but I guess that makes sense since certain time periods are a lot more interesting than others.

Anyway, I hope it gets another season, if not on NBC, then somewhere.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well Rufus looks like he's about to expire. That's not good.

I hope this can go another season. Unless Flynn takea all of Rittenhouse out in 1954, I can't see how this can end quickly.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Poor Rufus, he seems to take more hits than anyone. I thought this was a great ep, loved the little nods to The Untouchables and the way they brought the period setting to life and played with the history of how Al Capone was taken down, he was so well cast, the actor did a great job. It was also cool to see Jiya stand up for herself and get one over on Mason.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Ness and Capone were in Legende of tomorrow.
Bonnie and Clyde were in Timeless.

Looks like I was two episodes behind. Ness/Capone were also in Timeless.

 

[Dark Raven]

I suppose if Rufus died, they would have to replace him with Jiya since she's the only other one who could potentially pilot the Lifeboat. Also, she's not exactly safe at Mason Industries anymore. She would need to defect as well and join forces with the Time Team and Agent Christopher.

But surely Mason Industries/ Rittenhouse must be training up other pilots, soldiers and historians who would be much more loyal to their cause and could go on missions for them.

 

[Dark Raven]

Timeless Edition (a weekly after-show discussing the episode) suggests that Mason might try to use the tech that he's requested to take over Rittenhouse, and that he could become the main threat for season 2. That would be interesting to see.

 

[ComicChick]

i feel like Mason is either

a)someone who always wanted to be rittenhouse
b) the son of the woman who used to have the member list memorized
c) long shot, allies with Flynn secretly

and that flynn may be a Rittenhouse member descendant too

i dont want rufus to die. they need and inside man (woman) inside Mason Industries so i hope Jiya remains

 

[Marvolo]

I can't believe they wasted Misha Collins like that.

 

[X-Ray]

Looks like I was two episodes behind. Ness/Capone were also in Timeless.

Naw, if you've seen the episode with Ness/Capone. You're caught up. That was first time both appeared in the series. If they had appeared before then people would remember. Because the guy playing Capone was memorably good. Wish the same can be said about Ness but...

I can't believe they wasted Misha Collins like that.

Right?

 

[Sawyer]

Finale tonight.

 

[Marvolo]

Finale tonight.

Series or season?

 

[Dr.]

Series or season?

Exactly.

 

[Sawyer]

Series or season?

We'll probably have to wait until May to find out.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Series or season?

Hopefully season, but I'm afraid it is probably the series finale.

 

[Dark Raven]

I can't see them resolving it all tonight in the space of one episode.

 

[Sawyer]

With Grimm ending and that Oz show probably being a one-off, I'd even be fine with NBC sticking it in a Friday slot if it means we get more.

 

[Marvolo]

I can't see them resolving it all tonight in the space of one episode.

I doubt the NBC executives, that decide whether shows are renewed or canceled, give a rat's ass whether things are resolved in this finale. If they want to cancel it they will cancel it regardless of whether the finale wrapped things up adequately.

 

[Shifty]

Here's some spin from NBC - they're mulling moving it to Fridays like we've speculated to an earlier timeslot. A reduced budget and 13 episode order and it may do better than Emerald City. The former head of scheduling for NBC/Fox has said you only want a handful of new shows to promote in the fall and that the data backs up keeping some toss up shows as you don't have to spend that much marketing them.

‘Timeless’ Awaits Renewal Decision By NBC As Season 1 Ends: Is It Out Of Time?
by Nellie Andreeva February 20, 2017 6:06pm

NBC’s freshman time-travel drama series Timeless is wrapping its 16-episode run tonight before the network has made a decision on its future. While the other two new NBC fall series with shorter seasons, breakout drama This Is Us and comedy The Good Place, both have been renewed, Timeless will likely have to wait until May to find out its fate.

Timeless has been a big conundrum. It had everything going for it – A-list pedigree with Shawn Ryan and Eric Kripke as creators and executive producers; strong reviews; a great time slot, Monday 10 PM after The Voice; and being first to market as the only of the three new broadcast time-travel series this season to premiere in the fall. But, while it quickly established a small loyal viewership, Timeless never found a wide audience the way the previous dramas that had launched in the time period did – at least initially – The Blacklist and Blindspot.

With solid time-shifting lifts, Timeless has averaged an OK, not great, 2.2 Live+7 adults 18-49 rating, on par with the third installment in the Chicago franchise, sophomore Chicago Med. Timeless has suffered without The Voice as a lead-in this winter, slipping to a 0.6 and 0.7 demo Day+Same day rating the last two weeks. The drop was partially offset by big DVR lifts, including a +117% for the Feb.6 season low L+SD episode.

The modest ratings performance, which has left NBC brass puzzled, has made Timeless vulnerable to cancellation, but it has support internally.

“We really like it,” NBC Entertainment president Jenifer Salke told Deadline at TCA in January. “I didn’t think it was going to be like This Is Us, but I am a little surprised that it didn’t settle in at a higher number.”

Still, NBC owns half of the show, produced by Sony TV, and I hear that, even with the so-so ratings, the network does not lose money on it.

Timeless also is a rare family viewing show, so I hear NBC has been mulling putting it on at 8 PM, so such a play, possibly on Friday, is considered an option for next season.

In Timeless, the heroes travel back in time to a major event in history, making the show a potential learning tool for schools.

“You learn a little something, and it takes you back to these periods of history, which is interesting,” Salke said, adding that she and NBC chairman Bob Greenblatt both are fans.

In the end, it will come down to NBC’s scheduling needs for next season, but in some cases, a series with loyal – albeit not large – following could be more attractive than spending $30 million to market a new series that may deliver the same ratings.

“There is a lot of passion for it,” Salke said of Timeless.

One factor that could complicate a potential renewal is the ongoing copyright lawsuit against NBC and Sony TV over the show, which may be resolved before the upfronts.

No matter what NBC decides, Ryan and Kripke are not ready to call it quits, with a Season 1 finale designed to set up a second season. You can read my interview with Ryan following the end of the finale telecast later tonight.