New Joe Fridays Special - The Tom and Axel Show

[Specter313]

http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays_Tom_Axel.html

~ Tom Brevoort and Axel Alonso substitute in for Joe so he can have a little week off and give their opinions on such matters as delays, varients, digital comics, sales numebers, and more.

~ Also give the following hints to what to look for in 2007:

Civil War #6 will not make you happy, but it will keep you rooted to your seat.

Captain America #25 will not only rock your world, but also the parallel world in which your Earth-2 counterpart resides.

JMS and Chris Weston’s secret project is going to be the book of the year. How can I be so sure? It has this guy in it.

Moon Knight is about to throw himself into the thick of the Marvel Universe – whether anyone wants him or not.

Black Panther and Storm are going to find a new home…and their family will grow.


Images:

This guy appears to be another one of those characters from the 40's that someone was talking of brining back in a new series a few editions ago:

 

[Kevin]

Thanx, Spec

 

[CaptainCanada]

Heartening words about variant covers and the like. Although at this stage I really hope there isn't anyone buying those under the impression they'll become valuable.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Damn...still nothing on who is going to replace JMS when he leaves Amazing Spider-Man.

I'm about to go to the Marvel offices myself and demand to know the answer.

 

[Red]

Pay attention Joe, JMS’s replacement on Amazing needs to be:

Spoiler

Dan Slott

 

[Kraven]

I would love to see

Spoiler

Dan Slott

on a Spider-title, but I thought it was supposed to be [blackout]Jeph Loeb[/blackout].

 

[Dread]

Tom Bevroot and Axel Alonso seem to have more knowledge and experience than Joe Q usually shows, and that is noticeable and welcome.

Naturally, Dan Slott on any core Spider-book would be heaven. If anyone could begin to write a civilian supporting cast for him again, and actually have them MATTER, it would be him. But it makes too much sense, so it won't happen.

Also, while Tom & Axel are honest about comic relays and realities of publication, they still follow the pattern of Joe Q; they adopt at "oh, well, live with it" instead of coming up with anything constructive to deal with the problem. I'm not even paid to come up with this stuff but here are some suggestions:

- Pioneer the concept of attaching more than one artist to a book on the onset, so the notion of a "fill in" becomes less of a curseword at the bullpen.

- If achieving 12 issues a year is unrealistic, then stop solicting them as such. If that means making all books bi-monthly, so be it. Upfront honesty beats broken promises.

- Realize that "fill in" art only backfires when it SUCKS, or when a particular artist is THE draw for the book. For example, Cassaday's art is the key draw to ASTONISHING X-MEN next to Whedon, and Hitch on ULTIMATES 2. On the other hand, was McNiven really fundamental to CIVIL WAR as a whole? Be flexiable, for F's sake. Sometimes Marvel isn't happy until it makes things as difficult as possible for themselves.

But what do I know, right?

Anyway, the notion of CIVIL WAR #6 "not pleasing" someone is expected. Marvel stopped wanting to please people with their stories as a whole 7 years ago. "Pleasing" stories don't get the Internet all fired up, they don't make the newspapers, they don't get everyone in a tizzy. It's the shocks, the explosions, the deaths, that do it. It's the loud books that make the waves and the quiet, always pleasing, always enjoyable without the shocks books that undersell. And it always sucks.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Pay attention Joe, JMS’s replacement on Amazing needs to be:

Spoiler

Dan Slott

That would be fantasmic but from what I've heard Dan Slott will be busy with She-Hulk and his new, still unnnamed, project in 2007 that's supposed to be his breakout work.

I had two writers in mind for when JMS leaves, barring that it isn't Loeb and Campbell who take over Amazing...and that's Brian K. Vaughan. With him leaving Runaways, Y The Last Man ending, and Dr. Strange The Oath almost over, he's going to have a lot of opened scheduling. And he'd be an awesome fit on Amazing Spider-Man, especially if Jazzy John Romita Jr. came back on to do the artwork.

And the other writer would be someone that people around here would have geek heart attacks over, and I mean that in a bad way. And that would be Brian Michael Bendis. He hinted heavily in a Wizard interview a few months back about doing Amazing Spider-Man. The guy sucks at surprises in his books and he also sucks at them in real life. So, I figure with those sucky hints he tossed that he might be taking that over. I'd enjoy it...but many around here would just find further crap to complain about and we'd hear about how Spider-Man got his arm broken by Jigsaw for the 1,000,646th time.

 

[roach]

That would be fantasmic but from what I've heard Dan Slott will be busy with She-Hulk and his new, still unnnamed, project in 2007 that's supposed to be his breakout work.

I had two writers in mind for when JMS leaves, barring that it isn't Loeb and Campbell who take over Amazing...and that's Brian K. Vaughan. With him leaving Runaways, Y The Last Man ending, and Dr. Strange The Oath almost over, he's going to have a lot of opened scheduling. And he'd be an awesome fit on Amazing Spider-Man, especially if Jazzy John Romita Jr. came back on to do the artwork.

And the other writer would be someone that people around here would have geek heart attacks over, and I mean that in a bad way. And that would be Brian Michael Bendis. He hinted heavily in a Wizard interview a few months back about doing Amazing Spider-Man. The guy sucks at surprises in his books and he also sucks at them in real life. So, I figure with those sucky hints he tossed that he might be taking that over. I'd enjoy it...but many around here would just find further crap to complain about and we'd hear about how Spider-Man got his arm broken by Jigsaw for the 1,000,646th time.

but he got his arm broken by Jigsaw

 

[SpideyInATree]

1,000,647th time now.

 

[Doc Destruction]

SIAT, your posts would be so much easier to read if you weren't such a freaking martyr, I swear.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I'm so sorry to inconvenience you.

 

[The_Mystery]

I would say the Robert Kirkman would be a better writer for Amazing. Put him on it and keep Garney. Did you see the last issue of Amazing, Garney seemed to be channelling Romita on one of the splash pages with Spidey swinging through NY.

 

[Doc Destruction]

I'm so sorry to inconvenience you.

It's not that, it's simply the fact that your posts have good content, then veer off to jab some group of people and place yourself in the victim corner.

Just make your point and end the post, no need to get high horse EVERY time.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Listen...I can't help it that I have a horse that's fifteen feet tall. If you can find me a smaller horse I'd take it...but until then I'm going to stick with my fifteen foot stallion here.

 

[deemar325]

Pay attention Joe, JMS’s replacement on Amazing needs to be:

Spoiler

Dan Slott

Amen to that!!!!!

t:

 

[deemar325]

Tom Bevroot and Axel Alonso seem to have more knowledge and experience than Joe Q usually shows, and that is noticeable and welcome.

Naturally, Dan Slott on any core Spider-book would be heaven. If anyone could begin to write a civilian supporting cast for him again, and actually have them MATTER, it would be him. But it makes too much sense, so it won't happen.

Also, while Tom & Axel are honest about comic relays and realities of publication, they still follow the pattern of Joe Q; they adopt at "oh, well, live with it" instead of coming up with anything constructive to deal with the problem. I'm not even paid to come up with this stuff but here are some suggestions:

- Pioneer the concept of attaching more than one artist to a book on the onset, so the notion of a "fill in" becomes less of a curseword at the bullpen.

- If achieving 12 issues a year is unrealistic, then stop solicting them as such. If that means making all books bi-monthly, so be it. Upfront honesty beats broken promises.

- Realize that "fill in" art only backfires when it SUCKS, or when a particular artist is THE draw for the book. For example, Cassaday's art is the key draw to ASTONISHING X-MEN next to Whedon, and Hitch on ULTIMATES 2. On the other hand, was McNiven really fundamental to CIVIL WAR as a whole? Be flexiable, for F's sake. Sometimes Marvel isn't happy until it makes things as difficult as possible for themselves.

But what do I know, right?

Anyway, the notion of CIVIL WAR #6 "not pleasing" someone is expected. Marvel stopped wanting to please people with their stories as a whole 7 years ago. "Pleasing" stories don't get the Internet all fired up, they don't make the newspapers, they don't get everyone in a tizzy. It's the shocks, the explosions, the deaths, that do it. It's the loud books that make the waves and the quiet, always pleasing, always enjoyable without the shocks books that undersell. And it always sucks.

Got ya covered Dread.

1) Any new ongoing should not be solicted until the creative team have at least 12 issues in the can ready to go.

2) If your knowingly gonna put a slow creative team on a book, use two regular artists who will switch out art chores every arc.

3) No mini-series should be solicted until all issues are finished, no teases, no preview art hold off until it's all done. Fans can't fiend over something they don't know is coming.

4) If a writer is falling behind on scripts or is only able too commit to a limited run, but his/her presence is crucial to the books success then use a co-writer from the start or let another writer of high quality work off plots/story arcs outlined by the writer who's late or leaving. (Daredevil hand-off between BMB and Brubaker is an example.)

5) Know your talent. If you know a guy like Bryan Hitch can only produce 6-8 issues a year, then don't offer him ongoing series unless you plan to use rule #1. If you got guys like Mark Bagley and John Romita Jr. who can pump out over 12 issues a year or handle two ongoings without breaking a sweat and still maintain quality art, first off double their pay and second keep them on your top tier ongoings.

 

[Kevin]

There goes Deemar and his cure again J/k, I think they should follow these most of the time.

EDITED

 

[Specter313]

Got ya covered Dread.

1) Any new ongoing should not be solicted until the creative team have at least 12 issues in the can ready to go.



3) No mini-series should be solicted until all issues are finished, no teases, no preview art hold off until it's all done. Fans can't fiend over something they don't know is coming.

Sorry, but if those two were used, we might as well just give up solicitations alltogether. Maybe wait to solicit them until the single issues are in the can, but not a full run.

 

[deemar325]

Sorry, but if those two were used, we might as well just give up solicitations alltogether. Maybe wait to solicit them until the single issues are in the can, but not a full run.

This for new ongoings inparticular. Plus my other rules allow two main artists for other ongoings.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Sorry, but if those two were used, we might as well just give up solicitations alltogether. Maybe wait to solicit them until the single issues are in the can, but not a full run.

They really should wait and solicit until the run is complete like was mentioned.

Then fiascos like Ultimate Wolverine Vs. Hulk wouldn't happen.