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[Harlekin]

Quasar certainly deserves the title, but it's one that has almost always been used to describe Mar-Vell, and for crying out loud, it's about the Negative Zone. It practically can't be anybody else.

 

[PWN3R]

Do people actually type like that? Because even when you're making fun of it you seem really ******ed.

rofl!1one!1 u wil liek this! LMAO!!one11! Its teh pwnz! LOL

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253322

 

[Zenien]

Can we not taint the rest of the board by linking to that section?

 

[PWN3R]

Can we not taint the rest of the board by linking to that section?

I love you and your Sony ways Zen.

 

[danielisthor]

Why can't anybody ever ask Fat Joe what the hell is going to happen when Whedon leaves Astonishing?

We get questions about League of Losers of all things.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Quasar certainly deserves the title, but it's one that has almost always been used to describe Mar-Vell, and for crying out loud, it's about the Negative Zone. It practically can't be anybody else.

Mar-Vell returning would just blow. Hard. He had his time. I really hope Marvel doesn't **** up the one good legacy they've got going for them.

 

[stillanerd]

Mar-Vell returning would just blow. Hard. He had his time. I really hope Marvel doesn't **** up the one good legacy they've got going for them.

Hey, if they can screw up the return of Thor by having "Thor" be a clone, they certainly can with this. My guess is "Captain Marvel" is a clone created by Reed that was too "independent" and was shuffled off to the Negative Zone and the Sentry frees him. Either that or that the Sentry discovers he's the reincarnated version of Mar-Vell while in the Negative Zone and "embraces" his rediscovered identity.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, the second suggestion is even worse than the worst-case scenario I came up with.

 

[Zenien]

Mar-Vell returning would just blow. Hard. He had his time. I really hope Marvel doesn't **** up the one good legacy they've got going for them.

CIVIL WAR: THE RETURN
Written by PAUL JENKINS
Penciled by TOM RANEY
As the Civil War rages, two of the universe’s greatest heroes are confronted with pasts they can’t leave behind in two heart-rendering tales. On Earth, the Sentry confronts his inner demons as the shadows of past and future battles tear him apart. Within The Negative Zone, the walls of 42, are pulled back to reveal the return of one of the Marveldom’s greatest heroes…now face-to-face with a Universe they no longer recognize.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

Which currently dead Captain Marvel does the line "One of Marveldom's Greatest heroes" suggest? "One of Marveldoms greatest heroes"? Or "his clone born son who was a booze drinker before he became Captain Marvel for a forgettably short time and then promptly went bat**** insane?"

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I missed that solicitation when I went to the preview page on Newsarama. I look at the covers first, and since Marvel doesn't know about a little thing called contrast, I completely missed The Return's cover, so I skipped the solicitation, too. It's totally Mar-Vell.

 

[Zenien]

The 'They' in thats entence is supicious, I doubt Sentry would come back from whatever he's doing in his one shot and face a universe he no longer recognizes, so why the 'they'? If it's in specific reference to the Captain Marvel portion maybe Mar-Vell AND Genis are returning from the dead.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think the "they" is just there so the mystery person's gender isn't revealed. It's bad grammar, but it's ostensibly more suspenseful.

Hey, I had a thought. What if The Return refers to Thor? He's definitely one of Marvel's greatest heroes, and his "return" in CW #4 was such **** that maybe Marvel's trying to make up for it near the end of CW. Plus, that cover is so abysmal that I'm wondering if it might be a fake. They've pulled the red herring cover trick before.

 

[Zenien]

Ok, now we're both reaching.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I need to cling to the hope that it might somehow not be Mar-Vell.

 

[Tropico]

It's Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr) who will take on the mantle of Capt. Marvel thus bringing back one of Marvel's greates heroes (but only in name).

 

[Dread]

It's Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr) who will take on the mantle of Capt. Marvel thus bringing back one of Marvel's greates heroes (but only in name).

That's possible as I think in a previous Friday they claimed that Marvel-Boy, currently acting as a slave soldier for The Cube and fighting the Young Avengers & Runaways in their CW series, would be seen again. So it may be possible he somehow is "freed" and can carry things on. Of course, from his original series from Morrison, he was hardly "superheroic" in the Capt. Marvel sense, but we'll see what happens.

And anyone who thinks it's odd that Marvel would show a picture where the colors clash and you kill your eyes reading it, has never read THE 198 FILES. Someone at Marvel thought dark blue text on black pages would be easy to read.

 

[deemar325]

I think the "they" is just there so the mystery person's gender isn't revealed. It's bad grammar, but it's ostensibly more suspenseful.

Hey, I had a thought. What if The Return refers to Thor? He's definitely one of Marvel's greatest heroes, and his "return" in CW #4 was such **** that maybe Marvel's trying to make up for it near the end of CW. Plus, that cover is so abysmal that I'm wondering if it might be a fake. They've pulled the red herring cover trick before.

I can see them doing something as lame as that again.

 

[Dread]

I can see them doing something as lame as that again.

To play Devil's Advocate, when Marvel has done a red herring, it was to keep something a surprise, like Astonishing X-Men #4. I can live with that as being surprised these days at Marvel is bloody rare. I appreciated no cover and a brief blurb about CW #7, BTW. Let the work speak for itself if it's so brilliant!

What I didn't like was the "extended, cover up lie" that Marvel & Wizard did way back for THE SENTRY. Yeah, I know, it was years ago, but I still never forgave either for that, nor will I ever read or buy the trade because of that. And I don't care how good it is. Whenever I see Sentry, all I recall is, "the character that proved that being blatently dishonest to your audience, and using the major comic-magizine monopoly to play along, is profitable". But that's neither here nor there.

It could be a cover for Thor. We'll see. Either way it's not until next year.

 

[deemar325]

You still angry over the Sentry thing? I was kinda annoyed too but hey Paul Jenkins came with the goods.

 

[Dread]

You still angry over the Sentry thing? I was kinda annoyed too but hey Paul Jenkins came with the goods.

I just felt it was underhanded, especially with WIZARD, who at the time had more of a niche on the market as the Internet wasn't as big for fans back then, played along. Wizard still laughs about it, like that jock in high school who, years after graduation, still laughs at you and reminds you of the wedgie.

If I wanted to be fair, one could claim Marvel & Wizard did that because they doubted the audience would flock to the work otherwise. But it was still a cheap stunt to me. What's next? Faking a writer's death just to make his #1 issue sell better?

 

[iamcevrus2]

could the return be about captain universe?

 

[stillanerd]

Wow, the second suggestion is even worse than the worst-case scenario I came up with.

You mean having it turn out that Mar-Vell really was alive all this time and that he didn't really die and was trapped in the Negative Zone? Yeah, I take that rather than the Sentry being the reincarnated version of Mar-Vell. Heck, wasn't Quasar supposed technically the "new Captain Marvel" anyway?

 

[Marcdachamp]

I just felt it was underhanded, especially with WIZARD, who at the time had more of a niche on the market as the Internet wasn't as big for fans back then, played along. Wizard still laughs about it, like that jock in high school who, years after graduation, still laughs at you and reminds you of the wedgie.

If I wanted to be fair, one could claim Marvel & Wizard did that because they doubted the audience would flock to the work otherwise. But it was still a cheap stunt to me. What's next? Faking a writer's death just to make his #1 issue sell better?

I'd be a lot more pissed if they used it to sell Trouble. As it is, they used it to sell a great story, and the articles fit well with the concept of the story, so that's cool with me.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

could the return be about captain universe?

I doubt it. Captain Universe has no association with that symbol at all, nor does he really count as one Marveldom's greatest. Captain Universe is a superhero who appears once in a blue moon and always with a new identity. Plus, they just released a bunch of Captain Universe one-shots in a month-long mini-event last year.

You mean having it turn out that Mar-Vell really was alive all this time and that he didn't really die and was trapped in the Negative Zone? Yeah, I take that rather than the Sentry being the reincarnated version of Mar-Vell. Heck, wasn't Quasar supposed technically the "new Captain Marvel" anyway?

Quasar followed in Captain Marvel's footsteps by becoming the new Protector of the Universe and hanging out with Eon and Epoch. He never called himself Captain Marvel or anything, though. He was also much more powerful than Mar-Vell, thanks to the quantum bands (Mar-Vell's nega-bands are literally just cheap imitations of them).

As I said, Quasar's preferrable to the alternatives (especially Mar-Vell and Noh-Varr), but I don't really see the need for him to give up his own superhero identity and hop on the Captain Marvel legacy.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Why can't anybody ever ask Fat Joe what the hell is going to happen when Whedon leaves Astonishing?

We get questions about League of Losers of all things.

Then for the next Joe Friday submit that question and see if it gets answered, homeslice.