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I SEE SPIDEY said:
Any criticism of Bale's performance in that flick is met by the most ridiculous comments from his fans. "He's perfect in every movie, how dare you critique my lord and master." Seriously dude, seriously.
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There are nutty extreme fanboys of everything. But selective anomalies work just as well I suppose. :whatever:
 
I saw the movie. Hated it.

One positive thing, though? I like Bella's dad. He's the only stomachable character, in my opinion.
 
Blackman said:
But I thought that the acting was cringeworthy at times between the main 3 characters. The chemistry between them was terrible and all there lines were delivered so stiff, phony, and/or wooden. Most of the time I thought that the supporting cast (who didnt get that must screentime) were funnier, better acted, and just overall more interesting then the main characters and thats a huge problem.
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Sounds like the books to me.
 
Emmett > Alice > Carlisle > Jasper > Esme > Rosalie > Jessica >>> Edward. :o
 
Emmets just the strong guy. He's cool ,but Alice IMO is the best. Shes the most likable, shes funny, cute. Shes just awesome.

Meyer wrote the supporting cast better than the main ones.
 
Emmett's got my favorite lines. :D "It's about time someone's scored around here." Plus the chapter Meyer cut out of Twilight about his origin is awesome.
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
It's mostly out of spite of the sexism that infects the internet. I like to see the fanboys squirm about the success of these flicks, especially considering the fact that other cheesy or bad movies don't get half the hate that Twilight gets because they are boy movies. When Transformers and it's fans get bashed to the degree that the Twilight and it's fans are I will shut-up.

It's pretty much all about spite because I obviously don't get any of the money.

And oh yeah, I did think that the movie was good for what it was on my first viewing.
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I always see you so up in arms trumpeting this argument of the hate for Twilight being due to sexism. When, as a huge fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (a television show that was basically marketed towards the same target demographic as Twilight is,) I can honestly say that if this was Buffy the movie making this kind of money I don't think there would be such a negative uproar. The reason being that it is the quality of these films that is being put into question not who they are being marketed to. Personally I could care less if its geared towards tweens or not. The point is these films are packaged as romantic vampire movies when they are closer to being about dangerous superficial teenage obsession and overlly angsty and emotional vegetarian vampires. And yet its a phenomenon I would put it's quality up there with the direct to video sequel to The Lost Boys and yet here it is breaking box office records. Why? Mostly because of shirtless boys. Where as this generation of young girls could have had an icon that tought them to be strong independent women like Wonder Woman, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or even Supergirl instead they have Bella the classic Mary Sue Damsel in distress who is self absorbed and little more than a silly girl with an extreme crush on an apparently really really pretty vampire boy. And that portrayal is ironically as sexist as you can get. It's essentially conditioning that sets the womens movement back if anything.
 
jasontodd said:
I always see you so up in arms trumpeting this argument of the hate for Twilight being due to sexism. When, as a huge fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (a television show that was basically marketed towards the same target demographic as Twilight is,) I can honestly say that if this was Buffy the movie making this kind of money I don't think there would be such a negative uproar. The reason being that it is the quality of these films that is being put into question not who they are being marketed to. Personally I could care less if its geared towards tweens or not. The point is these films are packaged as romantic vampire movies when they are closer to being about dangerous superficial teenage obsession and overlly angsty and emotional vegetarian vampires. And yet its a phenomenon I would put it's quality up there with the direct to video sequel to The Lost Boys and yet here it is breaking box office records. Why? Mostly because of shirtless boys. Where as this generation of young girls could have had an icon that tought them to be strong independent women like Wonder Woman, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or even Supergirl instead they have Bella the classic Mary Sue Damsel in distress who is self absorbed and little more than a silly girl with an extreme crush on an apparently really really pretty vampire boy. And that portrayal is ironically as sexist as you can get. It's essentially conditioning that sets the womens movement back if anything.
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:up:
 
jasontodd said:
I always see you so up in arms trumpeting this argument of the hate for Twilight being due to sexism. When, as a huge fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (a television show that was basically marketed towards the same target demographic as Twilight is,) I can honestly say that if this was Buffy the movie making this kind of money I don't think there would be such a negative uproar. The reason being that it is the quality of these films that is being put into question not who they are being marketed to. Personally I could care less if its geared towards tweens or not. The point is these films are packaged as romantic vampire movies when they are closer to being about dangerous superficial teenage obsession and overlly angsty and emotional vegetarian vampires. And yet its a phenomenon I would put it's quality up there with the direct to video sequel to The Lost Boys and yet here it is breaking box office records. Why? Mostly because of shirtless boys. Where as this generation of young girls could have had an icon that tought them to be strong independent women like Wonder Woman, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or even Supergirl instead they have Bella the classic Mary Sue Damsel in distress who is self absorbed and little more than a silly girl with an extreme crush on an apparently really really pretty vampire boy. And that portrayal is ironically as sexist as you can get. It's essentially conditioning that sets the womens movement back if anything.
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I second the :up:
 
Well, I think it's because you have a bunch of dudes telling chicks what they should and shouldn't like.
 
And as far as the Comparison to Transformers goes, Transformers while not exactly Shakespeare is at it's core still about heroism featuring classic archetypes reimagined as giant robots true but still the overall values are there. The Transformers are heroes in that they do what heroes are supposed to do which is inspire us to be better than we are to do the right thing to stand for something. Bella, Edward, Jacob, seem to inspire young girls to pine after dangerous men who tell them to stay away from them. To condone borderline abusive stalker behavior because he loves you and is trying to protect you. However it is your choice to be a fan and support this series. After all even Optumis Prime said that "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings", so your free to like what you wish just as I, and others like me are free to dislike it.
 
As much as you are right about the robots in Transformers, the problem was that it was so bogged down by the human story, which was just a frat American Pie comedy.

I just wish in the TF film,s they had stronger human stories. Not centered on constant jokes and "let's see how hip we can be with this generation!" by adding weed or mentioning swine flu. If they had stronger human stories that paralleled the robots they would be much better. Granted, the films are meant to turn off your brain. But if you're gonna do that, at least make it bareable.
 
Doctor Jones said:
As much as you are right about the robots in Transformers, the problem was that it was so bogged down by the human story, which was just a frat American Pie comedy.

I just wish in the TF film,s they had stronger human stories. Not centered on constant jokes and "let's see how hip we can be with this generation!" by adding weed or mentioning swine flu. If they had stronger human stories that paralleled the robots they would be much better. Granted, the films are meant to turn off your brain. But if you're gonna do that, at least make it bareable.
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terry78 said:
Well, I think it's because you have a bunch of dudes telling chicks what they should and shouldn't like.
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Nope, merely explaining why we don't like the film. It's not a simple case of "lulz you guys love Transformers but hate Twilight" or that we're sexist. Personally I have as much distaste for the Transformers franchise as I do for the Twilight franchise. Personally, I am a Buffy fanboy. So both accusations don't apply to me, so I wish people would stop generalising those of us who don't like the franchise into one big category.
 
I don't even know how that happened tbh, if I go over the character limit in my sig I get an error. :huh:
 
Characters yea, but there's a line limit to keep from clutter.

Just shrink the spaces. :o
 
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