New Mutants New Mutants News and Discussion - Part 2

It got elements of Horror and supernatural. Its not the Exorcist or the Conjuring of Marvel Comics. Geez. How about you read the other titles as well including the non 80 New Mutants comics? The Demon Saga after all isn't the entire run of the New Mutants comics. Also Demon Bear is not even in the film..

Because you've seen the movie, right?

The filmmakers have spoken more than once about how the movie is inspired by that specific storyline & era from the comics. So the talk about whether or not the entire New Mutants series was horror-tinged is pretty superfluous.
 
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Come down off that moral high ground, lol!

All big companies more than likely have their share of greed and questionable dealings. I don't think you can point a finger at Murdoch as the only one doing it!

Yeah its weird to even talk about ethics especially 20th Fox Century Fox is a Murdoch company.
 
It got elements of Horror and supernatural. Its not the Exorcist or the Conjuring of Marvel Comics. Geez. How about you read the other titles as well including the non 80 New Mutants comics? The Demon Saga after all isn't the entire run of the New Mutants comics. Also Demon Bear is not even in the film..


Don't grasp for straws or at least do your research first. the demon bear is in the film. it has been hinted, also it is based on the story. make sense it will appear.

https://movieweb.com/new-mutants-motion-poster-demon-bear/
One actor has confirmed it.
https://editorial.rottentomatoes.co...ie-heaton-confirms-demon-bear-saga-influence/


Who said it is exorcist or conjuring? last I remember, Josh compared it to a Stephen king's story but still with superhero elements that is more than costumes and CGI bonanza.

Read my last post, I said the new mutants is not just the only story but that is the story for this particular movie hence the horror element, you are trying to pretend is not.

Make the new mutants a strike force team under Brolin's Cable and only Fox under a competence person like James Mangold, Tim Miller or hopefully Josh Boone can pull it off, no one under disney can, maybe that is why you seem eager to keep tearing down the film. its reflects badly on disney marvel movies that only knows one style of movies.:whatever:
 
No thanks. I'll stick to my opinion. Its not a horror series in my opinion.

Also Slugzilla has already confirmed that Demon Bear was cut from the film. Take your advice in doing a research.
 
The Fox/Disney deal isn't finalized (I get the impression regulatory approval has to happen first), but the preliminary deal has put Comcast at a disadvantage. At a minimum, Fox doesn't think Comcast's deal is better and that's leaving aside the liquidation clause that would require him to have to pay Disney if he backs out of the deal. But that doesn't mean Comcast doesn't want to keep trying. My personal preference would have been to split assets to ensure neither side gets too much of a market share, but that's not realistic.

I have read a couple of articles about this whole Deal and its incredibly complicated when it comes to Murdoch, the shareholders, whats could be seen as an attractive deal to them and what could ruin either side of the deal when it comes to Disney and Comcast.

its all messy politics.
 
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Because you've seen the movie, right?

The filmmakers have spoken more than once about how the movie is inspired by that specific storyline & era from the comics. So the talk about whether or not the entire New Mutants series was horror-tinged is pretty superfluous.




Exactly. At least he should do some research before his syas anything. Demon Bear has been confirmed. yet he says it is not n the film:whatever:. for me the cheap attacks on new mutants is because the movie looks promising and will be good for comic movies, which we know is important. this movie could be another Logan in other words some MCU fans worst nightmare. ironically the theme of this story is nightmare becomes reality.
 
No thanks. I'll stick to my opinion. Its not a horror series in my opinion.

Also Slugzilla has already confirmed that Demon Bear was cut from the film. Take your advice in doing a research.


Cool stick to your opinions. I will stick to facts. The demon bear was a horror series because the writer said it himself and it has been explained many times to many who were curious. this is one of the best ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QSiZdqYZ6k
An opinion based on a lie is still a lie. sorry.
 
Is Erik Lensherr back with a new account?


Erik Lensherr? No I am new here. no offence but what are MCU fans dong on xmen forums?:whatever:. since no xmen fan will lie about the demon bear saga as not horror when it is just because disney cannot make horror movies. and they ask me why marvel cartoons are so awful today. did you see the xmen evolution episode of Danielle Moonstar? a new mutants character. Watch it and tell me that did not have deep horror elements. Good thing I am on this board. I can give real truth and facts about x-men and back it up with the writers and comics itself.
 
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Dude, does this have to become a X-Men VS MCU thing?

I really can't get behind that train of thought and that whole 'us against you' mentality.
 
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Dude, does this have to become a X-Men VS MCU thing?

I really can't get behind that train of thought and that whole 'us against them' thing.

Hell no. psylockolussus is the one making it a X-Men VS MCU thing by using the MCU logic on X-men.

New Mutants demon bear saga is a horror story and that is fact. it has been confirmed by the writer (Chris Claremont) himself and by comic readers who took the time to explain it because some were curious when the trailer came out about horror comic films and they had no idea comic stories were that diverse.

We all know disney cannot do horror, so the mcu logic is to deny new mutants demon bear saga itself is not horror.:whatever:
 
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No thanks. I'll stick to my opinion. Its not a horror series in my opinion.
It's not a horror series but it is a horror story. And the movie is based on this one particular story. So it makes perfect sense.
Also Slugzilla has already confirmed that Demon Bear was cut from the film.
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And I can officially confirm that Josh Brolin, Famke Janssen and James Marsden are in the Dark Phoenix movie! Trust me, they are 100% in! I'm not lying, I swear!
 
Hell no. psylockolussus is the one making it a X-Men VS MCU thing by using the MCU logic on X-men.

New Mutants demon bear saga is a horror story and that is fact. it has been confirmed by the writer (Chris Claremont) himself and by comic readers who took the time to explain it because some were curious when the trailer came out about horror comic films and they had no idea comic stories were that diverse.

We all know disney cannot do horror, so the mcu logic is to deny new mutants demon bear saga itself is not horror.:whatever:

We all know that he's incredibly biased and easily hates and/or dismisses anything that is FOX-related. Be better than that.

Ricardo Brown said it best: 'THE DEMON BEAR' is a horror story and the movie is mostly inspired by that saga, so it all makes sense. No need to turn this into a FOX vs Disney war.
 
It's not a horror series but it is a horror story. And the movie is based on this one particular story. So it makes perfect sense.

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And I can officially confirm that Josh Brolin, Famke Janssen and James Marsden are in the Dark Phoenix movie! Trust me, they are 100% in! I'm not lying, I swear!


That's a good one, your sarcasm on dark phoenix is perfect:cwink:. And very well said on the one particular story.

I don't even have faith in dark phoenix. If anything dark phoenix should be put on hold forever and more time spent on new mutants and xforce. from those two series , rebuild an xmen team again making it a hard reboot. let logan be the end of the oringal and prequel trilogy movies.
 
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Hey guys, you should just stop. Facts don't work on psylockossus.

Besides, if AT&T are given everything - even with regulations - then Comcast will indeed be bidding within the week and their bid will no doubt be larger than Disney's, even with their debt. All Murdoch wants is to avoid death tax or whatever it is on his kids and NBC is much more profitable for his sons than ABC. As for slugzilla insisting the deal is done, if slugzilla were high up enough in Fox to know the status of the deal well then they would've got to make the movie they wanted to make, not Josh Boone's film.
 
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While I respect your opinion, I must disagree with your assessment that the New Mutants was a horror series. While there were certainly elements of horror in some of the story arcs, there was just as many elements of action, humor, sci-fi, Teen drama, etc. It was never simply a horror series.

I'm not even going to touch your comments 3about the "director's craft" lol.

Again, this deal is done Disney gets Fox. Period.

Can't wait til the deal is officially announced as done deal. Is there any possibility that Disney might not even release the film online?
 
What are people going on about with the whole Fox is changing Boone's movie thing from the previous page? They had too many writers, a mistake they have made before, and they made a lot of compromises on the original cut of the movie. It was testing fine, and it was the movie everyone agreed upon, but it wasn't really the movie that Boone set out to make originally. He gets to fix that now. We'll have to wait longer, sure, but it's really not a bad thing.

It was released in early September and did incredibly well for Warner Bros., even beyond the studio’s wildest nightmares, er, dreams. In response, Fox cut a trailer for New Mutants that played up the scary elements from the film, essentially selling it as a straight-up horror movie — this despite the fact that in its first test screening, New Mutants scored the exact same number as the first screening of Deadpool and besides the very end, reshoots were deemed unnecessary. However, because of that well-received trailer, audiences were now expecting a horror movie.

At that point, Fox decided that instead of doing the three days of additional filming required to complete the YA movie that everyone had initially agreed to go make, the studio would change course and make a new version of the movie that was straight-up horror, which was what Boone and Lee originally wanted to do in the first place. It’s a little like a diner sending back a meal at a restaurant — not because there was something wrong with it, but because they simply changed their minds and wanted to order a different entrée, or movie, in this case.

Those close to the director said he always felt a bit neutered during principal photography, as he was forced to tone down the violence in order to avoid a dreaded R-rating. And because Boone was contractually obligated to shoot what was in the script, there was only so much he could do despite his and Lee’s best instincts. Sources say that while the second half of New Mutants is basically locked at this point, the first half of the film needs some work, and that Boone will likely add a bunch of scares that didn’t initially appeal to Fox execs. He and Lee might even stand a better chance of getting what they want now than they did during the initial development phase.
 
I am new here.
Then let me introduce myself and let you in on some things about our site.

I am C. Lee....one of the Administrators here.

no offence but what are MCU fans dong on xmen forums?
They are here to discuss the XMEN. I don't know what sites you are used to posting on....but here at the SUPERHEROHYPE! we are all about everyone discussing all superheroes. We are not an apartheid type site. Marvel fans can discuss DC stories, DC fans can discuss Marvel stories, MCU fans can discuss non MCU Marvel related stories, non MCU Marvel related fans can discuss MCU stories.....as long as it is done civilly. We here at the SHH actually encourage posters to interact with other members who don't share their exact opinions. Learning to have civil conversations with people who don't share your opinions will make you a better person out in the world.
 
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no way is X-MEN going to end up following the MCU Disney formula not after Star Wars that disney has ruined.
Okay but what exactly are you trying to say here? I'm sure you're aware that Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm are two different entities.
 
Okay but what exactly are you trying to say here? I'm sure you're aware that Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm are two different entities.



different entities but the same formula disney is using for both. new mutants is obviously a film that is its own thing.
 
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What are people going on about with the whole Fox is changing Boone's movie thing from the previous page? They had too many writers, a mistake they have made before, and they made a lot of compromises on the original cut of the movie. It was testing fine, and it was the movie everyone agreed upon, but it wasn't really the movie that Boone set out to make originally. He gets to fix that now. We'll have to wait longer, sure, but it's really not a bad thing.

Exactly. It was even reported by a trustworthy source. Everything else is just noise.
 
Exactly. It was even reported by a trustworthy source. Everything else is just noise.




In this age of social media there are 3 things I don't trust.


1. early twitter reactions


2. Test screenings


3. click bait articles with leaks.
 
Can't wait til the deal is officially announced as done deal. Is there any possibility that Disney might not even release the film online?


Have you seen this?

https://deadline.com/2018/06/brian-...r-fox-annual-shareholders-meeting-1202407754/
Brian Roberts Says Comcast In “Advanced Stages” Of Preparing An Offer For Fox

Disney trying to hold the film back is the very reason xmen should go to comcast so Comcast can release it in cinemas as deserved. when I read someone asking this movie should never get release, it means this movie has the potential to be great ...better than all the comics films out there right now. thanks.
 
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The big news for Comcast will be tomorrow since the Judge is supposed to rule on the AT&T/Time Warner merger. If the Judge upholds the merger, that makes Comcast's position a lot more competitive.
 
The big news for Comcast will be tomorrow since the Judge is supposed to rule on the AT&T/Time Warner merger. If the Judge upholds the merger, that makes Comcast's position a lot more competitive.

The point isn't that the judge is going to uphold the merger - chances are that he will, the point is that he may still put some regulations on it. A lack of regulations means Disney's stock will fall, not plummet, and Comcast will be able to put in their massive bid which will without a doubt start a bidding war that they only have the pockets to win. Regulations means that Comcast may not be place their bid. Yet all Murdoch wants is more money, which is why praising him for selling to Disney is so incredulous. If Comcast are legally able to bid for more, he'll go to them without batting an eye and tomorrow will prove just that. He's greedy, corrupt and dirty business pushed Fox to the top of the world.
 

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