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Nice guys DO finish last…

Then, Temple Fugit, she's probably not attracted to you. And if she is she hasn't realized it she may never realize it.

Another thing, she's also like 20ish, right? People do lots of mindless, inexplicable things at that age.
 
Wow dude... thanks for that. :ninja: Seriously.

It is not a problem. Everything I said is true. I had a very similar situation. I was 20, it was a close friend that I had had all through high school. I really thought that I was in love with her. I decided to tell her. Looking back, I think I made a mistake. Obviously, you are your own man so do what you feel is right but I gotta be honest with you I think telling has about a 1% chance of working. I just think if she was interested in you something would have already happened.
 
Has she ever received any consuling or therapy from the abuse she suffered as a child?
 
since you claim that your good looking enough to get other girls then it's time to put your foot down, just tell her how you feel instead of torturing yourself every day, 8 years has been long enough.
 
You aren't a nice guy, to be honest. You're being co-dependent and pining after someone you can't have who's nothing more than a friend. There's a big difference. My honest advice? If you really treasure your friendship with this girl, be her friend...not her friend who eventually hopes to hook up with her and be her knight in shining armor because it's not going to happen. I went down this road when I was younger (around 18). It didn't go well for me and I've never seen it go well for anyone else, either. You're young, single and in college. You're surrounded by young, single, beautiful women everywhere you turn. Many of them are just as amazing as your friend. What's the problem?

Sorry if that sounds a little harsh, but I felt like you needed a reality check, my friend. Life's too short to spend your youth pining for women who aren't going to be what you want them to when there are so many other AMAZING women out there to meet and enjoy the company of. :up:

jag
This is good advice. However I will add on if he really is abusive to her, and that's a REAL problem...you should talk to her about it. But make sure you're talking to her for her sake and not for yours. Not making it about an opportunistic attempted to get her in the sack.
 
She doesn’t know I feel this way. She doesn’t know that she would be treated like the queen she is if I was with her… and that I would put her high on her pedestal, and show off to the world that I’m the luckiest man in the universe for having such a gift from God.
Just slightly right of creepy:dry:
 
How the hell is that creepy?

She's not a "Queen", she's not a "Goddess" and she's not the most amazing girl "in the universe".
To approach someone from that perspective is unhealthy because inevitably they WILL fall short of that inatuation-tainted delusion and are commonly made to feel very uncomfortable by it..

It's like this...do I enjoy it when a girl is crazy about me? Yes.
Would I enjoy it if she just sat and gazed at me for hours, took pictures of me while I slept and constantly gave extreme compliments?
It would be creepy and ultimately say more about her mental state than it truly said about my merits. (I am not saying you would do that stuff of course, it's like a characterization of this "worship" as opposed to "strongly like" thing.)

It's pretty much universal now that the phrase "put on a pedestal" is considered to be describing a bad thing, and the fact that you haven't picked up on that is also subtly creepy.
 
Never put a woman on a pedestal, they just wind up peeing on you. :up:
 
hmm well im only 15 and iv been threw alot of relastion ships and they have not worked out people say im just to young i now its kinda true but i just broke up with a girl not to long a go cuz she was going to cheet on me so we broke up and then i asked her older sister out and she treats me so nice iv never felt the way i do with the girl im with do any of ya thank its wrong to date youir xgirlfriends older sister
 
sorry to intrude i was talking to to my girlfriend about this stuff she says she agrees that nice guys finish last she also says they always have the best happen to them even tho they might get hert alot they will find their true love soon.

hmm well im only 15 and iv been threw alot of relastion ships and they have not worked out people say im just to young i now its kinda true but i just broke up with a girl not to long a go cuz she was going to cheet on me so we broke up and then i asked her older sister out and she treats me so nice iv never felt the way i do with the girl im with do any of ya thank its wrong to date youir xgirlfriends older sister

WTF?:huh:
 
hmm well im only 15 and iv been threw alot of relastion ships and they have not worked out people say im just to young i now its kinda true but i just broke up with a girl not to long a go cuz she was going to cheet on me so we broke up and then i asked her older sister out and she treats me so nice iv never felt the way i do with the girl im with do any of ya thank its wrong to date youir xgirlfriends older sister

Was it because of your grammar? :huh:

Back to this pedestal thing, I knew a guy who was pushing 30, had his first gf, lost his virginity, got married and got her pregnant within 2 years of each other.

It was just very hard to "respect" him because he was essentially like the wife in Coming to America, "Whatever you like". :dry:
 
It's sounding more and more like you just don't like the way the person she's dating now treats her, not that you acutally want to be with her. You say you want to be her boyfriend, but not in a sexual way? One of you posts even says, if she was with a good guy you'd be fine with it. I think you're very, very confused about your feelings for her. Maybe you should just try to get her to see how badly she's being treated and that she doesn't deserve it. You care for her as a friend, not a potential girlfriend and if you did get into a relationship with her and treated her the way you said you would, you'd most likely lose her because she'd think you were psycho.

Also, don't cry and whine when people make fun of you for making a thread about your "relationship" problems. You're on a comic book messageboard, not a dating site, expect smart assed answers.
 
I need to vent a little, and this is the first place I thought of.

Here’s my situation.

I’m 20 years old, and I am in deeply love with a girl. She’s beautiful, like… AMAZINGLY gorgeous… and she’s also my best friend in the whole world. I’ve loved her since 6th grade… back before I even knew what love was. She doesn’t know how I feel about her.

The problem is, she has a boyfriend, and he is also my friend.

He treats her like absolute garbage.
He calls her “trash”.
He won’t return her calls.
He’s always too busy to be with her.
He never makes time for her.
He has cheated on her numerous times (and we know this).
He has been demanding her to have sex with him since the first month they were dating, and she’s been saying no ever since (which is why he cheats).

They’ve been together for 3 ½ years.

She won’t dump him. She’s afraid of being alone. She was abused as a child, so the abuse from her boyfriend makes her feel “normal”, because being treated like garbage is the only thing she’s ever known since childhood. If she were to be treated like gold... it would be a very different experience for her, and it would almost feel strange, since it’s against everything she was treated like when she was little.

The three of us go to separate colleges… but she is transferring to my college next year.

That makes me happy, but at the same time, it makes me nervous that I won’t be able to hide my feelings for her any more.

She calls me every day, and every night… and we talk for roughly 3 hours a day. She talks to her boyfriend for about 10 minutes everyday (or some days not at all, because he doesn’t “feel like it”).

She and I have a strong connection. She means the world to me (although I’m not sure the feeling is mutual). I’ve spent the night at her house numerous times (without her boyfriend knowing), and I am always there for her when she is down (and just there, period).

Honestly, I love her.

I’d do anything for her. I wish she could know that I would treat her way better than this guy ever would. I would hold her, cherish her, kiss her, cuddle with her when she’s having a bad day… I would freakin’ love her until it made her sick. I would love her TOO MUCH... lol.

I wish she could know that she doesn’t have to be treated like garbage. I wish she could know that there is a guy right here who is head over heels for her.


She doesn’t know I feel this way. She doesn’t know that she would be treated like the queen she is if I was with her… and that I would put her high on her pedestal, and show off to the world that I’m the luckiest man in the universe for having such a gift from God.

But you see, the thing is… I can’t tell her these things.

She’s my best friend.

Two things could happen if I told her:

1.) She feels the same way, she dumps her boyfriend, and her and I live happily ever after.
2.) She DOESN’T feel the same way, and our friendship is strange forever, and possibly destroyed... because she now knows how I feel about her.

So, because I can’t tell her how I feel, she will remain to be treated like crap, and I will remain to have a heart that aches because I can’t be with her. Every time she calls me, and I see her name on my phone, my heart just ACHES at the fact that I have to listen to how this queen is being treated like garbage… and I can’t do a damn thing about it.

Nice guys finish last… and my life is a living hell because of it.


My question is… what would you do? Would you risk 8 years of friendship to tell her how you feel? Or would you keep it a secret forever and always be her best friend, without any consequences?

Help me.





EDIT: So I had to edit some stuff because some people aren't mature enough to read it seriously. They'd rather call me a creepy stalker, as opposed to just a normal guy who has feelings for a girl. For christ's sakes.

Ok so heres how it goes,in the long run YES the nicer guys have more trouble,i speak from experince to.That doesnt mean your stuck thier,girls with dirt bags want out of thier relationships but most of the time they are to brain washed to do so and believe they couldent get any better,once you show them what a real boy friend is they will be like drug addicts on de tox,you just have to stick with it or they wil go back to thier old way.Now I wont judge,mabey im missing somthing but this guy whos supposed to be your friend is a son of s ***** and why hes your friend boggles my mind,you should be beating his head of a wall not buying him drinks.Thier are some girls who deserve to be trested bad/cheated on but very few,this girl doesnt sound like one of them so you should let her know,**** that guy.Why are you his friend if he does **** like this? Its not right and she sounds more important anywyas,dont be afriad to choke somone you hang out with for crossing a girl you care about,girl friend or not.My best advice,and again I speak form experince,KEEP ON THIS! dont slow or give up and if you tihnk your pushing her away just mod how your doing things DONT LET UP! make her realize and another good tip is to get one of her frineds on your side,her hearing it from to angles is a good thing.Just keep out it,itll work out.
 
She needs therapy for the abuse she's endured as a child. Because of the low self esteem and self worth, she's never going to want to have a "nice guy" to come rescue her. She has to rescue herself first.
 
hmm well im only 15 and iv been threw alot of relastion ships and they have not worked out people say im just to young i now its kinda true but i just broke up with a girl not to long a go cuz she was going to cheet on me so we broke up and then i asked her older sister out and she treats me so nice iv never felt the way i do with the girl im with do any of ya thank its wrong to date youir xgirlfriends older sister

I had a hard time following that :huh:
 

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