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Wiuth the abuse as a child thing Ive seen that to,you gotta look at the facts,this guy prolly puts her through the same stuff,she may have been raised to belive thats how she should be treated but if you start breaking down those repression walls shell open up just MAKE SURE YOUR THIER WHEN SHE DOES! itll be a deal maker or breaker.Just keep at it,start talking to her about how nice and stuff she is,what happens when you do compliment her?
 
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Wiuth the abuse as a child thing Ive seen that to,you gotta look at the facts,this guy prolly puts her through the same stuff,she may have been raised to belive thats how she should be treated but if you start breaking down those repression walls shell open up just MAKE SURE YOUR THIER WHEN SHE DOES! itll be a deal maker or breaker.Just keep at it,start talking to her about how nice and stuff she is,what happens when you do compliment her?

i have to go im in school rite now so write me on my profile if u want but have to go last class 7th class
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I have been selected to represent the school at the national grammar rodeo at the Sheraton Hotel in Canada.
 
lmao.

Okay, on a more serious note.... I just want to say that I apologize for sounding a tad "creepy" or "stalkerish"... that's really NOT who I am. Okay? Seriously... when I read that stuff, it made me chuckle a bit, and then I got mad when it continued.

But really... that's not me at all. I know you guys don't know me (as a person), and you don't have to believe me, but I truly am NOT a weirdo like that.


Yes, I am confused about the situation, and I'd love to be her man... but the truth is, I just want her to be happy at any cost.. whether it's from being with me... or being with a better guy than who she has now. If I knew she was happy with someone who treated her right, that would ultimately be more important than what I want.




So, no... I don't light candles and cut myself while looking at pictures of her, with The Cure jamming on my stereo. I seriously am not like that. She is just someone that I really care about.
 
Wow, I know I've come in late, but you need to tell her. If you both are best friends, I'm sure your relationship could work.
 
3 times must be the charm.


SHE MAY NEED THERAPY!!!!
 
Stalker Psychos rarely say, "Yeah, I'm a Stalker Psycho".

They mostly say, "Lol, I'm not like a "Stalker-Psycho" or something lol...I just worship her as the queen of the universe is all. :huh:"

lol
 
I can't keep following you around but...

ang_hulk said:
With a child abuse history, I've seen that as well. You have to look at the facts. This guy probably puts her through the same type of abuse. She may have been raised to believe that's how she should be treated. However, if you start breaking down those repressed memories walls, she'll open up, but MAKE SURE YOU'RE THERE WHEN SHE DOES! It'll be a deal maker or breaker. But you have to keep at it. I would start talking to her about how nice she is.

What happens when you do compliment her?
 
This place is just nuts. I'm sorry. Can we just celebrate 4/20 in peace without the craziness?
 
This place is just nuts. I'm sorry. Can we just celebrate 4/20 in peace without the craziness?
I think TempleFugit needs some of the 4/20. It would calm him down, put this all in perspective, and I'm certain he could get some girls to join in.
 
How the hell is that creepy?
Wihelm pretty much picked this one up for me. It amazes me (though it probably shouldn't) just how many guys on here will post the exact, same, creepy girl/"relationship" habits. Yours, however, is slipping into GhostRider87 (aka 'Hooter's Pimp') territory. It's taken you 3 1/2 years of stalking, apparently it seems, to court this woman. You aren't her friend, you're attempting to be some sort of wolf in the fold...the guy who's going to pick her up when she, finally, falls. I got news, you can wait an eternity, it won't happen. If you didn't have the guts to tell her 3 and .9999/2 years ago how you felt, or ask her out on a date, then you don't now. And your problem is you think she is "Queen goddess of the universe". Guess what, I'd have trouble speaking to a "Queen goddess of the universe" too, but she isn't, she is a human and you have to treat her like a human. Grow a backbone, and the next time you have these feelings for someone else...go up, and talk to them and gradually you'll get past all this silly anxiety you've built up.

You see yourself as the end to all her problems, but the thing is you objectify her as much as her abusive boyfriend does. The only difference between him and you is the masks you wear. It's equally abusive to covet someone like a divine being as to treat them like a dog. Both are at opposite ends of the spectrum, but can easily end up the same way...abuse. You'll be the ultimate jealous boyfriend, you're already halfway there.
 
Honestly, TF, if she's as messed up as you described by things that happened to her when she was younger and things still happening to her... a few things.

A. It would not be a healthy relationship.
B. You cannot fix her.
C. She needs to help herself in the end
D. She's in no shape to be in a relationship until then.

It seems like she's the classic case of somebody who needs a 'love tank' filled up because of some hole made during childhood and hasn't learned how to do it properly at all. Hence the dependency on ass hole boyfriend.

Anywho, more cents from me.
 
The other thing, TF, is I question your ability to make judgement calls on this girl when you're obviously facing huge issues yourself. Stalker behavior often involves making others out to be "jerks", especially if they get in the way of the object of your affliction...erm...affection. Kainedamo, who'd I'd say is actually improving, used to harp on how bad Vicki's boyfriends were...even going so far as to point out he didn't wash his hands. Obsessing over every possible detail in order to make this guy out to be a horrible person. You may be doing the same thing, maybe even outright lying to yourself about their relationship.

At the end of the day, for whatever reason, she is f***ing him and not you. It might not even be an especially good reason, but it's her reason, and you won't change it. You cannot make someone like you. That doesn't mean she'd never like you, maybe she would, but only because you or her changed...not because you forced her to like you.
 
Actually according to his posts, she isn't f'ing him at all since he says she's still a virgin.

Of course I question the validity of that. Most people in a 3 1/2 year relationship who haven't consumated yet, sounds fishy, regardless if he says that he cheats on her because she hasn't given it up. I don't know many 18-21 year old males who would still hang around.
 
I used to be a nice guy.

Now I'm not :eek:

I am now Colin Farrell like-sans the STDs...


Seriously though...if you've carried a torch for her this long it's not going to go away in passing anytime soon...you should probably talk to her - but that could also backfire...it depends a lot on her maturity and such.

ALSO, keep in mind...most people aren't going to stay in the relationship they are in when they are 20 years old forever.
 
Actually according to his posts, she isn't f'ing him at all since he says she's still a virgin.

Of course I question the validity of that. Most people in a 3 1/2 year relationship who haven't consumated yet, sounds fishy, regardless if he says that he cheats on her because she hasn't given it up. I don't know many 18-21 year old males who would still hang around.
He's so possessed by the thought of her at this point, even calling her "goddess" and stuff, I question most of what he says.
 
Or she could just be telling him that she's a "virgin" so he (TF) would still respect her?
 
I'm in kind of the same situation, but on a more fresh level.

I've only known this girl for a short time, but we were "fast friends" as she puts it, and I've had feelings for her since shortly after we met [she knows how I feel].

I very rarely ever date, and just as rarely ever actually "like" or "have a crush" on someone [more easily put, I rarely have any more feelings toward a girl other than, "Hey, she's hott..."].

All my friend tells me to stick around, wait for it, let it come, blah blah, but I look at it this way: you stick around and just wait for her to come to you, you're not being a friend. True, I like this girl, and true, I hang out with her whenever I get the chance, but you've got to avoid the, "She should break up with him and date me," situations, much like I try to.

I'm not saying, "Don't wish you were with her," because that's damned near impossible. Just don't play devil's advocate and look for every flaw her boyfriend has and every slip-up her boyfriend makes, because it'll come out of your mouth eventually. By this, you'll not only ruin your crush, but you'll ruin your friendship [happened to me in high school, although the girl and I made up and became incredibly close friends without ever having to date again].

With the girl I have feelings for, we talk about my feelings often [curiously, she's the one who usually brings it up] and she often pokes fun at me... However, she still trusts me because she's taken her relationship problems to me for advice or help, and I didn't tell her, "Well maybe it's time to break up!" Gotta think about her as well, not just yourself.

In essence, what I'm saying is to keep the feelings passive. It's okay to have the feelings, and okay to want her, but don't let it override sensibility and friendship. If you don't have a friend in her, you're not going to get a date.
 

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