No Hulk sequel, a RE-START instead.

[Sava]

no one is going to spend 200million on a single scene...

i was talking about the entire movie, I dont think a perfect Hulk movie is that hard to make, just needs the right people... who ever they are

 

[Sava]

Not Cameron. uh-uh.

whats wrong with Cameron?

 

[Lobster Charlie]

you've got to be s**ting me, Hulk didnt have the budget it need to pull it off. If you still think that a Bodybuilder painted green is the best way to bring Hulk to life after watching the movie, try opening your eyes while you watch it next time.

Please. Pouring money all over a movie doesn't make it better. The CG was a disgrace. He looked FAKE. Do you realize that when I tried to get people to sit down and watch it with me, they were turned off because "it looked like a video game?"

The box office and reputation this movie has, ALONG with the fact that they are restarting the damn franchise all point to one thing: Ang Lee's HULK sucked.

I'm not saying we need a painted bodybuilder again. I'm saying that the show captured Hulk better than the movie, and that's *all* the show had. My point is that money is not equal to creativity. I'm saying that if more focus was put on story and capturing the essence of the character and mythos WITHOUT the big studio money and figureheads in the way, we probably would've had a better HULK movie.

Try opening your eyes when you read a post next time.

 

[November Rain]

lobster, on one hand you say that the hulk looked fake, giving implications that more work should have been on it which equals more money.

yet you then go and say pouring more money in wouldn't make it better.

surely these are conflicting arguments but you place them side by side...

 

[Sava]

Please. Pouring money all over a movie doesn't make it better. The CG was a disgrace. He looked FAKE. Do you realize that when I tried to get people to sit down and watch it with me, they were turned off because "it looked like a video game?"

The box office and reputation this movie has, ALONG with the fact that they are restarting the damn franchise all point to one thing: Ang Lee's HULK sucked.

I'm not saying we need a painted bodybuilder again. I'm saying that the show captured Hulk better than the movie, and that's *all* the show had. My point is that money is not equal to creativity. I'm saying that if more focus was put on story and capturing the essence of the character and mythos WITHOUT the big studio money and figureheads in the way, we probably would've had a better HULK movie.

Try opening your eyes when you read a post next time.

Video game?... what f**king game looks this good? please. CGI was great in most places with a few shot look like they need to be touched up. We still dont know what the f**k Arad was talking about, Penn all this time was talking about a sequel. The reputation was based on ******s reviewing the work print and other idiots like your friends or who ever the hell you asked to watch, jumping to conclusions and saying dumbass s**t like "this looks like a video game" .. give me a god damn break. The story wasnt the best, the acting wasnt the best, neither was the directing but the Hulk we got was the Hulk. Nearly everithing about him was great (except the height). Guys like CJ dont like the Hulk crying and stuff like that, thats fine, but when he was pissed and doing the Hulk stuff that we all went in to see, what you saw on screen was Hulk. THere is simply no way of getting a CGI Hulk better than that. To say the CGI looks like a video game is beyond stupid.

 

[November Rain]

hehe, sava's turning green...

 

[Sava]

hehe, sava's turning green...

i understand when people talk about the story and such being bad, but CGI is in no way crap like he's making it out to be.

if this is a video game, i want what ever the hell these guys are playing

 

[Lobster Charlie]

Video game?... what f**king game looks this good? please. CGI was great in most places with a few shot look like they need to be touched up. We still dont know what the f**k Arad was talking about, Penn all this time was talking about a sequel. The reputation was based on ******s reviewing the work print and other idiots like your friends or who ever the hell you asked to watch, jumping to conclusions and saying dumbass s**t like "this looks like a video game" .. give me a god damn break. The story wasnt the best, the acting wasnt the best, neither was the directing but the Hulk we got was the Hulk. Nearly everithing about him was great (except the height). Guys like CJ dont like the Hulk crying and stuff like that, thats fine, but when he was pissed and doing the Hulk stuff that we all went in to see, what you saw on screen was Hulk. THere is simply no way of getting a CGI Hulk better than that. To say the CGI looks like a video is beyond stupid.

Dude, relax. It's called a difference of opinion. The way you spout off, one would think you actually worked for ILM or something.

The people I showed it to? Some friends and family. They couldn't stand it. I'll let them know you think they are beyond stupid, simply because they disagree with you. By them saying it looked like a video game, gee, could that just be another way for them to say "wow, this looks very fake!"

 

[Lobster Charlie]

i understand when people talk about the story and such being bad, but CGI is in no way crap like he's making it out to be.

if this is a video game, i want what ever the hell these guys are playing

Nice looking CG.

(but he doesn't look like a real man to me. or to a lot of people)

 

[Cracker Jack]

Guys like CJ dont like the Hulk crying and stuff like that, thats fine, but when he was pissed and doing the Hulk stuff that we all went in to see, what you saw on screen was Hulk. THere is simply no way of getting a CGI Hulk better than that. To say the CGI looks like a video is beyond stupid.

You are correct Sava. The origin aside, Ang gave us a pretty good Hulk. The TV Hulk can not hold a candle to Angs Hulk. And I liked the way the TV Hulk looked. Whe the Hulk was on screen, it was as close as we've ever been to seeing The Hulk.

 

[Lobster Charlie]

lobster, on one hand you say that the hulk looked fake, giving implications that more work should have been on it which equals more money.

yet you then go and say pouring more money in wouldn't make it better.

surely these are conflicting arguments but you place them side by side...

Not necessarily. I think you are stuck on the whole CG thing, and the idea that more realistic = more CG = more money.

I'm just saying that if they DIDN'T have over a hundred million dollars to spend, then the focus would be on coming up with very convincing and creative ways to sell the idea of a giant, raging, green man. My point is that too much money tends to stifle creativity more than enhance it.

Give 20 million to a *really good director* and they won't need a completely CG Hulk.

 

[Sava]

Dude, relax. It's called a difference of opinion. The way you spout off, one would think you actually worked for ILM or something.

The people I showed it to? Some friends and family. They couldn't stand it. I'll let them know you think they are beyond stupid, simply because they disagree with you. By them saying it looked like a video game, gee, could that just be another way for them to say "wow, this looks very fake!"

lol...I'm sorry for all that, its just that blaming the CGI is always anyone's first excuse, when you look at it, Hulk didnt have alot of the stuff KK or Gollum had. Hulk did way more things than Gollum and was in daylight a hell of alot more. CGI wasnt perfect like KK but still great. Hey, its your opinon, i cant change that, just the "Video game" line really piassed me off. Sorry.

 

[Sava]

You are correct Sava. The origin aside, Ang gave us a pretty good Hulk. The TV Hulk can not hold a candle to Angs Hulk. And I liked the way the TV Hulk looked. Whe the Hulk was on screen, it was as close as we've ever been to seeing The Hulk.

agreed. You think we'll hear anything by the 12th?... by Arad not coming out and saying anything about the great "do-over" snafu, it seems like your right about the remake

 

[Cracker Jack]

The people I showed it to? Some friends and family. They couldn't stand it.

To be completely honest, and this is not a jab at the movie, but I have yet to meet anyone, outside HM.Com and here, that even liked the movie. Anyone! The standard answer is "That was a stupid movie."

 

[Cracker Jack]

agreed. You think we'll hear anything by the 12th?... by Arad not coming out and saying anything about the great "do-over" snafu, it seems like your right about the remake

I would hope that, by now, he has heard the rumblings about "It's a do-over" and would say something one way or another. Personally I don't really care one way or the other. I'm all for a good Hulk movie. They did say that within 30 day they'd announce who the director will be. That was about two weeks ago.

 

[Timstuff]

Restarting Hulk instead of doing a proper sequel is such a ******ed idea. And if they go through with it, then we will not see it for at least 8 years.

I say, just try to get it right with the sequel. I thought the first movie was good, but it wasn't fun enough. If they get a more "fun" director to do Hulk 2, then I think it could be a success. Restarting is not the answer though. In fact, it would only make things worse since I doubt they're going to be able to top the first one.

 

[Sava]

I would hope that, by now, he has heard the rumblings about "It's a do-over" and would say something one way or another. Personally I don't really care one way or the other. I'm all for a good Hulk movie. They did say that within 30 day they'd announce who the director will be. That was about two weeks ago.

did they say they would announce or hire one?... as in, hire one and not tell us

 

[Sava]

To be completely honest, and this is not a jab at the movie, but I have yet to meet anyone, outside HM.Com and here, that even liked the movie. Anyone! The standard answer is "That was a stupid movie."

i had this problem when i was in collage, most of the time is was "Hulk looked like Shrek" or "i heard it was s**t"

 

[Cracker Jack]

i had this problem when i was in collage, most of the time is was "Hulk looked like Shrek" or "i heard it was s**t"

I've never heard that Shrek comment. I've heard he looks fake, bad, King Knog and that he's to big. But mostly it's that the movie itself was bad or boring. I was talking to my bartender yesterday. She like Starwars, Spidy and X-men. I mentioned that they are going to make another Hulk movie. I didn't say re-start or do-over. I just said make another Hulk movie and she said "I hope it's better than the first one because that movie was boring and they made the Hulk to big." That's when I said they might be re-making it all over. to which she said "Good, the first one was bad." "He was way to big." She did agree that some of the scenes looked good though.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Isn't there some billionnaire Hulk-fan uber-geek out there who would be willing to shell out the $300-$400 million needed to make a sequel (or a re-make) the right way? I know that if I had over a billion in the bank, I'd invest in superhero movies big time.

 

[Sava]

I've never heard that Shrek comment. I've heard he looks fake, bad, King Knog and that he's to big. But mostly it's that the movie itself was bad or boring. I was talking to my bartender yesterday. She like Starwars, Spidy and X-men. I mentioned that they are going to make another Hulk movie. I didn't say re-start or do-over. I just said make another Hulk movie and she said "I hope it's better than the first one because that movie was boring and they made the Hulk to big." That's when I said they might be re-making it all over. to which she said "Good, the first one was bad." "He was way to big." She did agree that some of the scenes looked good though.

most of the people who said that stuff to me didnt even watch the movie .. how stupid is that.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Oh, and to the people who say "the story was the problem" or "the acting was the problem", PLEASE f*** off. Both the story and the acting were fine. And stop acting as if everyone agrees with you that the Hulk movie was boring, because it got a FRESH rating at Rotten Tomatoes.com. 60% of film critics disagree with you there and think that Ang Lee's Hulk was a great movie. "Too much talking and not enough smashing" perhaps, but a great movie nonetheless.

 

[Cracker Jack]

And stop acting as if everyone agrees with you that the Hulk movie was boring, because it got a FRESH rating at Rotten Tomatoes.com. 60% of film critics disagree with you there and think that Ang Lee's Hulk was a great movie.

I'm not acting as if I'm right and everyone else is wrong. I'm just telling ya that I've yet to meet anyone outside of these boards and HM.COM that like the movie is all.

And Sums, 60% is not a passing grade on any test I've ever taken.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

If a President can get elected with less than 50% of the votes, Hulk can be considered a good movie with merely 60%.

 

[November Rain]

i understand when people talk about the story and such being bad, but CGI is in no way crap like he's making it out to be.

if this is a video game, i want what ever the hell these guys are playing

it's the same people who look dismiss the green goblin based on his 'power ranger costume' which isn't really anything to do with the character's goals or wilem dafoe's performance