No Man's Sky

[zenith16]

They aren't large company. There aren't "middlemen". They are all responsible for this and I am sure all were happy with the hype he was helping generate with the vagueness. They pushed it hard.

he's is the most responsible all in him talking like in those interviews those are all him . not many people can say you screwed up to boss and slap him up side the head. but you know I'd like to see that happen in public interview, since you said this. andhat person saying to the interviewer it's not in the game.

Any way I bet the only people that can ever get away with that to their boss, is if they were child hood friends and have some equal standing there And that one it trying to slap sense back into the other.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

he's is the most responsible all in him talking like in those interviews those are all him . not many people can say you screwed up to boss and slap him up side the head. but you know I'd like to see that happen in public interview, since you said this. andhat person saying to the interviewer it's not in the game.

Any way I bet the only people that can ever get away with that to their boss, is if they were child hood friends and have some equal standing there And that one it trying to slap sense back into the other.

If I remember correct, the team is 10 people. Internal politics can go along way with only a few people. Though I guess it doesn't help that the team didn't make much of a game either.

 

[James]

I love the edits of that video. It is like the new version of the scene from that Hitler film. Can't get enough of it.

As to Murray. I agree you can sort of see it in his body language. That he knows he isn't telling the truth, but what he knows people want to hear. Nothing however proves this situation for what it is more then their responses since launch. So vague and a lot of the time just ignoring the community.

Out of curiosity (as I don't use Twitter) I've checked Murray's Twitter feed a couple of times in the last few days. There's nothing from him, as far as I could tell, about the ongoing controversy. Just notes about customer support and, later, adding features. Hilariously the replies to each of his tweets are generally a torrent of backlash.

I wonder if Murray will ever eventually come out, in some form or another, and address it all. And can he redeem himself at this point? The same Sean Murray could very well go down in video game history as one of the great developer-villains if he doesn't play his cards right.

The next project from Hello Games is definitely going to be looked at with a lot more skepticism in any case.

 

[zenith16]

Out of curiosity (as I don't use Twitter) I've checked Murray's Twitter feed a couple of times in the last few days. There's nothing from him, as far as I could tell, about the ongoing controversy. Just notes about customer support and, later, adding features. Hilariously the replies to each of his tweets are generally a torrent of backlash.

I wonder if Murray will ever eventually come out, in some form or another, and address it all. And can he redeem himself at this point? The same Sean Murray could very well go down in video game history as one of the great developer-villains if he doesn't play his cards right.

The next project from Hello Games is definitely going to be looked at with a lot more skepticism in any case.

it'll be hard for him to fully recover. he'll have fix his rep and his companys rep though and make good gamesand have someone else more capable with talking in interviews . but looking at what happened with randy pitchford and other's Hudson and peter moliux (<<Spelling )of fable befor them all.

That all made the same mistake and how unforgiving people are on the web and other wise he'll always be looked at that way.

I just hope he learns something from this he should have with those other big name in the industry that made that mister which decade ago ether .

but he had to experiences it first hand cause he chose not to pay attention to that stuff .

be honest and don't say yes just to sell the game.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The thing is how many "fans" do they make. If they hook enough people, it can be a thing that works out. Battleborn pretty much died on arrival, but the next Borderlands will be the real test for Gearbox.

 

[zenith16]

yeah which mean Murray's workers at hellow game have to make some significant DLC. while their will be despised it'll depend on the other dev's work to pull the company out.
I
t'll depend on that. Murrey on the other hand will always be me met dislike if he continue's to do any sort of interview or speak of any sort .

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

The Redlettermedia guys hit the nail on the head. They referred to the game as a tech demo that you would try to sell to EA for Mass Effect rather than a full video game.

 

[terry78]

lol

 

[zenith16]

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[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah, that is just embarrassing.

 

[James]

Wow.

Probably more so than any other game, I am so glad I took the "wait and see" approach with No Man's Sky. If I'd laid down $60 for this and was reading the same stuff we're reading now, newly discovered problems or broken promises every few days, I'd be very upset. Now it's just relief. Although I do feel bad for those folks who did pay full price and are now regretting it.

(noting of course there are people who have bought No Man's Sky and are enjoying it, even if that number does seem to shrink everyday)

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wow.

Probably more so than any other game, I am so glad I took the "wait and see" approach with No Man's Sky. If I'd laid down $60 for this and was reading the same stuff we're reading now, newly discovered problems or broken promises every few days, I'd be very upset. Now it's just relief. Although I do feel bad for those folks who did pay full price and are now regretting it.

(noting of course there are people who have bought No Man's Sky and are enjoying it, even if that number does seem to shrink everyday)

Same here. I avoided the hype for so long. I just didn't get it. And then they started to get me the last few months. I am so happy I didn't just jump in and buy it. I would have been so upset with myself.

 

[James]

Same here. I avoided the hype for so long. I just didn't get it. And then they started to get me the last few months. I am so happy I didn't just jump in and buy it. I would have been so upset with myself.

Definitely. I was excited, optimistic even. I think I even posted in here a few times about being "cautiously optimistic", but I've been burned far too many times before to go throwing money at a new franchise, or one I'm unfamiliar with regardless of hype.

I bought The Witcher 3 a few months ago, which came out last year sometime. It wasn't until a friend bought it and was singing it's praises, and I looked into it a little more first, that I finally went and picked up a copy for less than $60. Now I'm having an absolute blast with that game.

The "wait and see" approach becomes more and more appealing all the time. At this stage I'm almost tempted to make it just a hard rule for every game.

 

[Brother Jack]

The "wait and see" approach becomes more and more appealing all the time. At this stage I'm almost tempted to make it just a hard rule for every game.

That is my general rule with games. There's only a select few that I'll preorder or get day one and they're always from developers that I have experience with and earned trust. This studio is brand new and despite the potential of the game sounding like pure wish fulfillment for me, the marketing surrounding it was always opaque and overblown. I hope Hello Games can learn from this and make something great with their next project. Or maybe with extensive DLC No Man's Sky can be that something in a year's time. It happened with Destiny.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

That is my general rule with games. There's only a select few that I'll preorder or get day one and they're always from developers that I have experience with and earned trust. This studio is brand new and despite the potential of the game sounding like pure wish fulfillment for me, the marketing surrounding it was always opaque and overblown. I hope Hello Games can learn from this and make something great with their next project. Or maybe with extensive DLC No Man's Sky can be that something in a year's time. It happened with Destiny.

The potential of a game that makes good on the promises of No Man's Sky is ridiculous, I hope that since No Man's Sky at the least proved that there's an audience for this style of game that we'll eventually see a game that manages to make good on the concept's potential. I like the game, but its hype was overblown and the game itself has a lot of broken promises, I hope the updates can fix that but I'm not gonna expect them to either, right now the game is lacking its equivalent to Minecraft's building, there needs to be something to do that you can never really consider to be finished, and none of the games features are in depth enough to really fill that void.

 

[Marvolo]

Out of curiosity (as I don't use Twitter) I've checked Murray's Twitter feed a couple of times in the last few days. There's nothing from him, as far as I could tell, about the ongoing controversy. Just notes about customer support and, later, adding features. Hilariously the replies to each of his tweets are generally a torrent of backlash.

I wonder if Murray will ever eventually come out, in some form or another, and address it all. And can he redeem himself at this point? The same Sean Murray could very well go down in video game history as one of the great developer-villains if he doesn't play his cards right.

The next project from Hello Games is definitely going to be looked at with a lot more skepticism in any case.

He needs to eat his humble pie, release a mea culpa, and just completely own his actions. Hiding from the backlash or acting like he and Hello Games did nothing wrong is only going to hurt him and Hello Games.

Same here. I avoided the hype for so long. I just didn't get it. And then they started to get me the last few months. I am so happy I didn't just jump in and buy it. I would have been so upset with myself.

I didn't even know this game was a thing until a few days before it came out. And after reading up on it I put it in my Amazon cart and almost preordered it. Thankfully it wasn't a pay week and I had other things I wanted more so I decided not to buy it.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

The biggest fault of No Man's Sky is it turned out to just be another Minecraft survival clone. There are a 1000 of these games in Early Access.

 

[Benstamania]

Well I enjoyed the game for two days. Deleted it from my PS4.. Won't go back. What absolute trash it turned into. Thankfully I got it for free. No money lost.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Well I enjoyed the game for two days. Deleted it from my PS4.. Won't go back. What absolute trash it turned into. Thankfully I got it for free. No money lost.

Pretty much the same for me. Once I found out what happens when you get to the center, I was done. This game has zero respect for the players time.

 

[Matt Mortem]

This really should have launched at a $19.99 indie game price.

 

[TheLastBlade]

It still amazes me that the game had such a fandom built up that people threw a fit over less than enthusiastic reviews and threatened people over the delays. First the people who reported the delays, and then Sean Murray after it was confirmed.

Yet another reason I don't like social media.

Fortunately, that backfired spectacularly. Nowadays, not even 9gag can take the game seriously (gives you an idea on how much people hate it).

 

[James]

He needs to eat his humble pie, release a mea culpa, and just completely own his actions. Hiding from the backlash or acting like he and Hello Games did nothing wrong is only going to hurt him and Hello Games.

I agree completely. Releasing a truthful public statement is the only way to save face. Naturally it won't appease everyone, but at least there would be a number of people who, if presented honestly, will take the message in it's intended spirit and forgive Murray's actions enough to give him the time of day in future. As it stands right now the group of people who would buy anything from Murray or Hello Games on a day-one release (at full price, no less) is only getting smaller.

I'm shy on the details, but I seem to recall reading that the $60 price point wasn't necessarily up to Hello Games. If Murray and co lack control over how to price their own game, or are under some kind of pressure from whoever (Microsoft/Sony?) I can't help but wonder if that same pressure is what might lead them to carry on like nothing's wrong -or what pushed Murray to lie in the first place.

Granted none of us know the guy in real life and our exposure to him is mostly from clips here and there, but Murray doesn't come across as an inherently deceptive guy. The likelihood that he's a decent enough small time developer rather than a sneaky conman seems a lot stronger. Which doesn't excuse what he did, only that he might garner a bit more sympathy if getting caught up in a whirlwind, not being a deceptive opportunist, is the case.

 

[Benstamania]

I highly doubt he says anything.. Or admits any shortcomings. Dude just comes off as smug. He got our money.. That's what he wanted.

Hello Games will probably fade away after this. No one will want to help fund them on anything.. And once they're gone.. I doubt anyone would even care.

 

[Tron Bonne]

It pretty much played out exactly as expected it to. The overwhelming hype, and the narrative of you doing anything and having billions of planets could never truly live up to the product. I think no matter what Hello Games came up with could stand the test of those promises and actually be a satisfying product.

 

[X Knight]

I never really caught the hype for this game, though in the few months leading up to release it did start catching my interest. but, I am so glad I decided to skip this.